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Old 02-10-2009, 11:57 PM   #1
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Default Is anyone feeling the recession at work?

I'm an electrician and our company is feeling the pinch right now. I'm temporarily laid off for this week with next week tentative. Been trying to find some cash jobs so i will be able to stay afloat with payments. This is all the giant corporations fault. Nothing but corporate greed and they don't give a **** about the millions of people who's lives are being put through misery so that their profits can go up . Anyone need an electrician? i need work! help!
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Old 02-11-2009, 12:00 AM   #2
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I'm an electrician and our company is feeling the pinch right now. I'm temporarily laid off for this week with next week tentative. Been trying to find some cash jobs so i will be able to stay afloat with payments. This is all the giant corporations fault. Nothing but corporate greed and they don't give a **** about the millions of people who's lives are being put through misery so that their profits can go up . Anyone need an electrician? i need work! help!

Go to Manitoba apparently. I heard on the radio the other day that they still can't find skilled workers for developments and they are bringing in some Icelanders.

No pinch for me yet... but budget day is the 17th so you may find me whoring on Hastings on the 20th
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Old 02-11-2009, 12:24 AM   #3
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No recession in healthcare! Neither myself (RN) or my wife (clerk @ Cancer Agency) have any concerns about our jobs.
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Old 02-11-2009, 12:44 AM   #4
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No recession where i work either, surprised no one got laid off. (knock on wood)
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Old 02-11-2009, 12:50 AM   #5
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I'm an Electrical Engineer, and our work is not slowing down yet, though we are bracing. Less big capital projects, more small maintenance projects.
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Old 02-11-2009, 01:04 AM   #6
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I was on the chopping board for about a week or so... I was fortunate enough to find an alternate position. But many others with in my company were not so lucky. But from what I have heard they were given pretty decent severance packages.
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Old 02-11-2009, 01:19 AM   #7
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I'm suffering a bit at the moment. No business licks
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Old 02-11-2009, 01:19 AM   #8
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Im in the automotive industry, and lucky for me I occupy a niche in the company and cant be easily let go... but definitely business is very very slow and hours for most people have been severely cut back
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Old 02-11-2009, 01:36 AM   #9
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I got a raise and promotion last week! And retro-paid back from December! And school's being paid for! So, no.
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Old 02-11-2009, 02:27 AM   #10
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Another electrician i know went to manitoba to work at a mine. I would go but i have to many ties here to let go of. Sucks
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Old 02-11-2009, 02:44 AM   #11
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I still have work but my bonus's have been in the crapper. Which is up to 25% of my wage.
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Old 02-11-2009, 02:44 AM   #12
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Electrical engineer in buildings engineering (im the guy all the electricians hate lol)....and yes we're feeling it pretty hardcore....

being fresh outta school isn't helping my situation either

oh and im pretty sure there hasn't been any public sector layoffs has there? thousands of private sector layoffs....and teachers in ontario (i believe) are going on strike....I cant believe the nerve of the public sector....
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Old 02-11-2009, 03:03 AM   #13
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Old 02-11-2009, 03:53 AM   #14
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teachers going on strike for higher pay when thousands of people being laid off....

see it used to be that public sector u make less money, but the benefits were awesome...and private sector u make more money but less benefits, so it kinda balanced out, now on average public sector make something like 45% more for the same job, and they have the awesome benefits still. i have nothing against people who work in the public sector, i just wish there was a little more balance because it makes the economy even less stable...think of it this way, the private sector pays the wages of the public sector (through taxes) and receiving the services they need in return...now since public sector is being paid so much that money has to come from the private sector and the taxes go up, meanwhile private sector is all being laid off, taking pay CUTS, etc....doesn't lead to a pretty economy....then the teachers in ontario (or maybe it was just ottawa or something, cant remember) decide to go on strike cause they're not happy with their pay??...like really now...

if im misunderstanding anything someone chime in...im no economist but this is how it was explained to me...and it makes sense to me
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Old 02-11-2009, 10:18 AM   #15
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Old 02-11-2009, 10:43 AM   #16
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I still have some big US orders coming in. So until May or so, I should be good in that sense. But the general sales are down. My biggest Canadian customer cut their sales forecast buy 50% for 2009. That stings a bit for current business, although they're trying to direct new opportunities our way. We're fortunate to have made some friends in the industry in the last few years.

There have been some benefits though. I have no problem finding people to work now, and some of my competitors have been forced to lay off workers, and shut down plants. For the most part, the bigger they are, the harder they fall. And apparently, will continue to fall. If it does his the fan and I lose my job, I can always go back to working on cars. Life ends when your heart stops beating, not when there's an economic downturn.
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Old 02-11-2009, 11:24 AM   #17
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I got laid off from Air Canada, but my girl friend is a nurse at royal columbian and she says there short of nurses lol.
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oh and im pretty sure there hasn't been any public sector layoffs has there? thousands of private sector layoffs....and teachers in ontario (i believe) are going on strike....I cant believe the nerve of the public sector....
Striking teachers aside, in a sector that is facing long term human resources and hiring challenges, why would governments take two steps back by laying off employees for short term "savings"?

In case you haven't seen the news in the last few months, the primary goal at all levels of government is to keep people working. How does laying off a bunch of public sector employees accomplish that goal? Let's see... it doesn't.

Think before you type next time mmm'kay?
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Striking teachers aside, in a sector that is facing long term human resources and hiring challenges, why would governments take two steps back by laying off employees for short term "savings"?

In case you haven't seen the news in the last few months, the primary goal at all levels of government is to keep people working. How does laying off a bunch of public sector employees accomplish that goal? Let's see... it doesn't.

Think before you type next time mmm'kay?
did I say public sector should lay people off? No I didn't....

All I'm saying is they shouldn't be giving wage increases or striking when the economy is going to ****. No one is immune, just because you work for the government doesn't mean the money you are paid just magically appears....with more people being laid off and companies going under tax revenue will suffer....what you think the goverment can just pull money out of their ass to pay gov workers their ridiculous salaries? Somethings gotta give man. And no I'm not saying lay them all off.....

Read before you type next time mmm'kay?
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teachers going on strike for higher pay when thousands of people being laid off....

see it used to be that public sector u make less money, but the benefits were awesome...and private sector u make more money but less benefits, so it kinda balanced out, now on average public sector make something like 45% more for the same job, and they have the awesome benefits still. i have nothing against people who work in the public sector, i just wish there was a little more balance because it makes the economy even less stable...think of it this way, the private sector pays the wages of the public sector (through taxes) and receiving the services they need in return...now since public sector is being paid so much that money has to come from the private sector and the taxes go up, meanwhile private sector is all being laid off, taking pay CUTS, etc....doesn't lead to a pretty economy....then the teachers in ontario (or maybe it was just ottawa or something, cant remember) decide to go on strike cause they're not happy with their pay??...like really now...

if im misunderstanding anything someone chime in...im no economist but this is how it was explained to me...and it makes sense to me
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Striking teachers aside, in a sector that is facing long term human resources and hiring challenges, why would governments take two steps back by laying off employees for short term "savings"?

In case you haven't seen the news in the last few months, the primary goal at all levels of government is to keep people working. How does laying off a bunch of public sector employees accomplish that goal? Let's see... it doesn't.

Think before you type next time mmm'kay?
The moral of the story is we should go communist and let the government run everything. Then we would all have jobs and sing kumbaya around the camp fire!
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The moral of the story is we should go communist and let the government run everything. Then we would all have jobs and sing kumbaya around the camp fire!

im down.....can we be rasta communists?
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teachers going on strike for higher pay when thousands of people being laid off....

see it used to be that public sector u make less money, but the benefits were awesome...and private sector u make more money but less benefits, so it kinda balanced out, now on average public sector make something like 45% more for the same job, and they have the awesome benefits still. i have nothing against people who work in the public sector, i just wish there was a little more balance because it makes the economy even less stable...think of it this way, the private sector pays the wages of the public sector (through taxes) and receiving the services they need in return...now since public sector is being paid so much that money has to come from the private sector and the taxes go up, meanwhile private sector is all being laid off, taking pay CUTS, etc....doesn't lead to a pretty economy....then the teachers in ontario (or maybe it was just ottawa or something, cant remember) decide to go on strike cause they're not happy with their pay??...like really now...

if im misunderstanding anything someone chime in...im no economist but this is how it was explained to me...and it makes sense to me
It's funny how many people always think it's only about wage's when they hear teacher's going on strike!

It's a lot about all the cut backs in the programs the government want to cut like gym, music, special needs etc.. and sure teachers get x-mass break off but a lot of them have to work there summer break to afford to live. .... plus do you think a teacher just works 8-3??? After they come home the have to do all there marking and after that then they have to do all the planning for the next day to keep the kids busy and learning. So know they are working 10-14 hour days 5 sometimes 6 days a week and making less then $45K a year so you do the math.

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Oh ya my sister has worked the the Great Canadian Casino for over 18 years... And they are using this slow down to cut all there experianced staff.. SO even though there profits are up in the last quarter they canned everyone saying they are not needed anymore. Meanwhile, they are just bringing people that are less experiance to take there spot at $10 a hour.

I thought that was illegal to do! Lay off someone saying there job isn't available anymore then hiring someone for less money to take there place... You can't tell me none of the casino's are running shop without dealers, pit boss's, or floor managers??
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It's funny how many people always think it's only about wage's when they hear teacher's going on strike!

It's a lot about all the cut backs in the programs the government want to cut like gym, music, special needs etc.. and sure teachers get x-mass break off but a lot of them have to work there summer break to afford to live. .... plus do you think a teacher just works 8-3??? After they come home the have to do all there marking and after that then they have to do all the planning for the next day to keep the kids busy and learning. So know they are working 10-14 hour days 5 sometimes 6 days a week and making less then $45K a year so you do the math.
http://www.ottawacitizen.com/Busines...956/story.html

while there definitely were other reasons, wages were involved. Why would they offer a wage increase if the union wasn't demanding one??

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Elementary school teachers earned an average salary of $71,020 in 2007-08 (as well as approximately $9,500 in benefits), according to ministry officials. That number would have risen to $83,395 over the four year life of the deal.
71K a year + benefits? FOR A ****ING ELEMENTARY SCHOOL TEACHER? there's something wrong with that.

oh and btw last week i put in 71 hours at work...so i really dont feel bad for them working 10-14 hours 5 sometimes 6 days a week...and i'm pretty sure my job is just a little bit tougher than teaching children (not discrediting teachers, but come on)


lol no hard feelings if there are any ECE people here....I'm really not an ******* in real life...just on the internet
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