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Old 02-12-2009, 12:34 AM   #1
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Default The Bill Kolb Jr Subaru experience *Vent Post*

Just need to vent a little with my tri-state peepz.....

Took a ride with my Boy(He is a car salesman at Mercedes Benz) up there today since they have varies 08 STI on there lot. I arrive and headed directly to the 08 STI to check them out. 5 minutes into checking them out, a older salesman comes out and greets us and asked if we need any questions answer, if we liked to look inside the car and under the hood, we agree. He goes inside to grab the keys. After like 10 minutes he offers to take us inside to about the numbers. He is where it gets interesting. He tells us the car is a Exective demo that has never been title but doesnt fall under new cause of the mileage. He proceeds to input my information in the computer. He then asked me if I wanted to trade my wagon that was parked outside, I told him I wasn't sure.Also asked if I was putting anything down, told him $5,000. I wanted to work on the sale price first. He looks at us and tells us that the asking price is the final price. We look at each other and ask him that there must be some play with the sale price. He tells us no and that they offer the lowest price so there is no reduction on the price.He goes on to tell us about the bill kolb way which is "We rather sell 200 cars and make $10 on them each then sell 3 and get make $1,000 each. They wanted $28,886 for the car BTW. We offer $26,000 and he looks at us and tells us that he was going to run it threw his manager. Comes back two minutes later and just blows us off and tells us that he cant go a penny lower then whats on the window sticker. We tell him to call me if he changes his mind and we walk out.
Now I knew I wasnt going to get the car for $26,000 but I thought maybe they would have met me halfway or something. There is always room on the price, My cousin is a used car salesman and he gets like $2,000 of room money on the cars that he sell.
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Old 02-12-2009, 12:50 AM   #2
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Old 02-12-2009, 12:55 AM   #3
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What dont you understand?
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Old 02-12-2009, 01:01 AM   #4
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$29k for 08 STI doesn't seem too bad. What is the mileage?
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Old 02-12-2009, 01:03 AM   #5
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I agree with you that it's bull that they can't go lower on the sticker price, but you can't be mad at a place for turning down your offer and trying to sell a car at their asking price. I offered a price on an STi awhile ago, I even knew what the person got for trade in and they marked it up like 4 grand. The guy told me he wouldn't take less than sticker price and I left. 2 days later someone paid full sticker price. Can't really blame them for trying to hold out and make money.
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Old 02-12-2009, 01:04 AM   #6
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2300 or so. Its new but since it has this mileage, I cant get any of the incentive they offer.

These cars have been sitting there, The dealership look like the wild wild west. Empty!! I know they will call back, I am going to Hudson Subaru, They have one with similar mileage $1000 less, same package.
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Old 02-12-2009, 09:43 AM   #7
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It's real easy, don't get upset, just buy it elsewhere. Vote with your pocketbook rather than your internet muscles. Simple.

I had bad service at Flemington Subaru and won't go back there, took the car to an alternative dealer for the warranty work.

I just don't think they were screwing with you, they just have a price they want. Same thing happened when I was buying an G8, so I just voted to buy a different car.

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Old 02-12-2009, 09:44 AM   #8
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These cars have been sitting there, The dealership look like the wild wild west. Empty!! I know they will call back, I am going to Hudson Subaru, They have one with similar mileage $1000 less, same package.
There yah go. In fact if they do call back after you buy it, let them know where and why you went there.... May teach em a lesson.

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Old 02-12-2009, 09:55 AM   #9
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Just need to vent a little with my tri-state peepz.....

Took a ride with my Boy(Car salesman at Mercedes)
that's as far as I could get...
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Old 02-12-2009, 09:56 AM   #10
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Being with your friend you should have already known this.

Play the game!

You give a firm offer and walk out. You wait for a call. Nothing happens in a few days after you leave your information and you shop elsewhere.
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Old 02-12-2009, 10:08 AM   #11
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Also what's with the Ghetto talk? "My Boy" Jeez....

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Old 02-12-2009, 10:52 AM   #12
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I aint mad in that sense just this is my fourth car I purchased from a dealership, There is always room. My 07 Wagon I drove to Exeter Subaru in New Hampshire to pick it up because we negotiated the price. I will check that other dealership later.
Did you notice where I am from, The Ghetto??
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Old 02-12-2009, 10:54 AM   #13
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Also what's with the Ghetto talk? "My Boy" Jeez....

-mike
If I was a car dealer and I guy walked in talking like that. I would just smile on the inside because I damn well know he can't do basic math let alone interest formulas.

To the op. try wearing a shirt that fits, pull your pants up, and talk like you have a basic education. that usually helps when trying to make a large financial transaction
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Old 02-12-2009, 11:01 AM   #14
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Thats what you think, I know my math, Very Good with Finance. I wore a shirt and tie since I work for a school and went up there on my break.
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Old 02-12-2009, 11:04 AM   #15
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Thats what you think, I know my math, Very Good with Finance. I wore a shirt and tie since I work for a school and went up there on my break.

Good to hear. Just don't post like you're half retarded (ghetto) and you're all set
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Old 02-12-2009, 11:05 AM   #16
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If I was a car dealer and I guy walked in talking like that. I would just smile on the inside because I damn well know he can't do basic math let alone interest formulas.

To the op. try wearing a shirt that fits, pull your pants up, and talk like you have a basic education. that usually helps when trying to make a large financial transaction
Watch it Bad Noodle with judging character. You don't know me at all. Just because I didnt take my time to write this doesn't mean crap. At the end of the day I always get what I want regardless of how I look because my pockets speak for themselves.
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Old 02-12-2009, 11:05 AM   #17
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Watch it Bad Noodle with judging character. You don't know me at all. Just because I didnt take my time to write this doesn't mean crap. At the end of the day I always get what I want regardless of how I look because my pockets speak for themselves.
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Old 02-12-2009, 11:29 AM   #18
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Now that is funny, I love that show!
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Old 02-12-2009, 11:35 AM   #19
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Now that is funny, I love that show!
yeah too bad they're not coming back for a 3rd season.


Anyways, next time, fill out the work sheet on page 4:
http://www.carbuyingtips.com/car4.htm

drop it on the guys desk and wait for an answer. it'll save you some time and aggravation.
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Old 02-12-2009, 11:37 AM   #20
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Thanks Bad Noddle!
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Old 02-12-2009, 11:48 AM   #21
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Who cares that they wouldn't budge on the price? There is no "rule" that they have to barter with you.

The number one staple of car buying is "always be ready to walk out."

And you did, good for you. Look at it as a blessing in disguise since Bill Kolb Jr. is the WORST dealer in the history of the world (or Tri-State area, ).

Check out the dealership review section and count the threads about them and how bad they are.

BTW, if you want to buy new, buy new. Don't get an STi with 2,300 miles on it.
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Old 02-12-2009, 12:09 PM   #22
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I had a similar experience and worked with Ross Kelter. He told me the same thing about their asking price being the final price. The only place they had room was in my trade-in.

While I was disappointed, it's his inventory and business and they can run it any which way they want. We don't have to agree. I ended up buying from someone else and am happy with my purchase .

You should read up on some Bill Kolb complaints on the web. Apparently there was a lawsuit against them because they modified their cars to look like "special edition" models and jacked up the price....
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Old 02-12-2009, 12:22 PM   #23
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Yup, I've seen a few of those, they were "Bill Kolb" special editions but not ones from the factory...

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Old 02-12-2009, 12:53 PM   #24
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Old 02-12-2009, 01:35 PM   #25
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Bill Kolb is one of those "no haggle" dealerships, meaning they set a price and it's take it or leave it. They're also listed as such in some Subaru literature I was reading. In any case, you did the right thing walking away.. go with a place you're comfortable with =)

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