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Old 02-12-2009, 10:31 PM   #1
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So I decided to go with this mix in my tranny .I've been having some problems with the shifting when it got to running temperature . If I was just cruiseing going from 3rd to 4th shifting slower it was grinding .Although if I was to rev it up to 4000 rpm it would shift no problem . I find this really weird becase usually it's the other way around .So I got pissed off today and went shopping .

1 bottle : Redline Lightweigh Shockproof ( 75w140 ) blue bottle
1 bottle : Pennzoil Synchromesh
2 bottle's : Castrol Hypoy 80w90

Did the oil change and drove around a bit and I could feel the difference instantaniously . I used redline 75w90 before .I know that the wrx 5mt tranny's are not the greatest and they do have synchro issues but this stuff really did help .
Try it if you have simular problems and I hope it will make you as happy as I am right now . and there goes the cookoo bananas !
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Old 02-12-2009, 10:54 PM   #2
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No thanks. I used Quaker State full synthetic and it shifts like butter.
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Old 02-12-2009, 11:16 PM   #3
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How does butter shift exactly?
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Old 02-12-2009, 11:18 PM   #4
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How does butter shift exactly?

Yeah... I'd imagine it'd be like filling your transmission with bearing grease... least till it got warmed up.
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Old 02-12-2009, 11:26 PM   #5
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haha ... bearing grease I'll try that next .
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Old 02-12-2009, 11:29 PM   #6
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Scotty's cocktail is great.

Too bad it kills the syncros (sp).
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Old 02-12-2009, 11:51 PM   #7
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How does butter shift exactly?

lube your naked body with unsalted and slip across the linoleum through a doorway... that's how it shifts.
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Old 02-12-2009, 11:55 PM   #8
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Too bad it kills the syncros (sp).
Proof? I've been running scotty's mixture in my tranny for what, 5 years?
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Old 02-12-2009, 11:57 PM   #9
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Proof? I've been running scotty's mixture in my tranny for what, 5 years?
You were still in diapers 5 years ago. So was Ryan.
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Old 02-13-2009, 12:04 AM   #10
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Well tons of tests have been done on the mixture.

To sum it up in two sentences or so, Scotty's Cocktail contains excessive amounts of iron that contribute to clutch plate wear. Furthermore, there is lots of silicone in it, which is an additive in one of the oils in the cocktail, this is abrasive.

Mixing viscosities is never too bright of an idea. Subaru says to run 75w-90 in the transmission and between the three fluids in the cocktail, it comes to about 10w-40.
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Old 02-13-2009, 12:05 AM   #11
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You were still in diapers 5 years ago. So was Ryan.
Clever.
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Old 02-13-2009, 12:07 AM   #12
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1 bottle : Redline Lightweigh Shockproof ( 75w140 ) blue bottle
1 bottle : Pennzoil Synchromesh
2 bottle's : Castrol Hypoy 80w90
And I was thinking this was going to be some great scotch mixology drink!

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No thanks. I used Quaker State full synthetic and it shifts like butter.
I think the saying goes like a hot knife through butter, or a nice ball of hash. Anyone have air miles to send me to Amsterdam !

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Scotty's cocktail is great.

Too bad it kills the syncros (sp).
Is this just happen on the 5spds??

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lube your naked body with unsalted and slip across the linoleum through a doorway... that's how it shifts.
Thanks for that image of James that's now burnt badly in to my mind and now I will need years of therapy to get back to normal.
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Old 02-13-2009, 12:10 AM   #13
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It's not specific to the 5spds only. The minerals in the cocktail mixture are abrasive to steel parts.

Running the cocktail only masks the problem, it doesn't solve it or make it better.
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Old 02-13-2009, 12:22 AM   #14
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Clever.
Yes it was.
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Old 02-13-2009, 12:25 AM   #15
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Quick question OP, are you running a short shifter?
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Old 02-13-2009, 12:26 AM   #16
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Well tons of tests have been done on the mixture.

To sum it up in two sentences or so, Scotty's Cocktail contains excessive amounts of iron that contribute to clutch plate wear. Furthermore, there is lots of silicone in it, which is an additive in one of the oils in the cocktail, this is abrasive.

Mixing viscosities is never too bright of an idea. Subaru says to run 75w-90 in the transmission and between the three fluids in the cocktail, it comes to about 10w-40.
links pls.
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Old 02-13-2009, 12:30 AM   #17
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Search Scotty's Cocktail and follow the billions of links.
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Old 02-13-2009, 12:36 AM   #18
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i have many times(in the past), and i haven't found your test data.
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Old 02-13-2009, 12:56 AM   #19
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i tried it....

it made my seals leak

now im rocking penz syncromesh....and couldn't be happier
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Old 02-13-2009, 12:57 AM   #20
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Well tons of tests have been done on the mixture.

To sum it up in two sentences or so, Scotty's Cocktail contains excessive amounts of iron that contribute to clutch plate wear. Furthermore, there is lots of silicone in it, which is an additive in one of the oils in the cocktail, this is abrasive.

Mixing viscosities is never too bright of an idea. Subaru says to run 75w-90 in the transmission and between the three fluids in the cocktail, it comes to about 10w-40.
I'm confused how you are able to come up with a 10w-40 when the lowest viscosity of those three brands are between 50w and as high as 210w... If any thing you would think that it is on the heavy side. Say when you mix a 100 proof vodka with a 80 proof scotch and a 90 proof tequilia you would be a 90 proof and not 40 proof don't you think?
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Instead try using Redline Shock Proof with 1 qt of Redline gl-5. This wont eat synchros and work flawlessly. Even if you pound gears like me. You would never know some of my synchos are original with 170k miles.
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Old 02-13-2009, 01:03 AM   #22
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Mixing viscosities is never too bright of an idea. Subaru says to run 75w-90 in the transmission and between the three fluids in the cocktail, it comes to about 10w-40.
How do you mix 75w140 and 75w90 (and whatever the Hypo-C is) and come up with 10w-40?

EDIT - Beaten by the snowman.

EDIT2 - Found the thread with UoA results:
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...0#post24034470

Verry interesting . . .
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I'm gonna have to agree with Marlon on this one.
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Here is a test done on a fresh mixture, un-used in a transmission.

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Here is a test done by a used sample:

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