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Old 02-15-2009, 04:54 PM   #1
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Question Possible clutch/transmission problem

Car: 2002 WRX with 82,000 miles. I have owned the car for last 40k miles.

I am in college so it is normally a week in between days I drive my car. Last 2 times I started the car, I let it run for 5 min at least to warm up because It is around 30 degrees outside and colder at night.

Problem. When I am putting the car into FIRST gear I hear a noise that sounds like metal clanking together. It goes away as soon as the clutch is fully engaged. I dont hear any noise when shifting into second or cruising. I get to a stop light and begin to engage the clutch into first gear again, and the noise returns while releasing the clutch. It sounds like a couple of clunks then goes away when I am fully engaged into first gear. The more times I engage the car into first the less noise it makes until it eventually goes away. It feels/sounds like the noise is coming from below and in front of me

I rarely drive the car hard and have not recently. I do not launch it either. I do not slam gears but do go to WOT from time to time.

Let me know what other info you might need to make a more accurate guess.

I am still on the first clutch and I can feel that it is getting old but it still has good life left. At first I thought it was just the cold since two weeks ago it was in the single digits and teens, but this past week was warm (mid 30's) and the car still made the noise.

I have an Idea what it could be, but what do you guys think?

CN: 2002 WRX, 84k miles. metallic noise when engaging first, (not while costing or engaging other gears) goes away after a couple engagements into first after driving from stoplight to stoplight. Noise sounds like floating metal bumping against other metal. Noise sounds/feels like its below and infront of me.
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Old 02-15-2009, 09:36 PM   #2
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anyone have an idea??
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Old 02-16-2009, 02:01 AM   #3
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Lazy bump because I know I didnt stump the crew
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it's a confusing description because you talk about "when engaging first" and then it sounds like the noise is when you let up the clutch which would be after the gear is already engaged

is it possible it happens in other gears but you don't hear it (due to road noise)? have you tried starting off in 2nd?

and "metal is floating around and bumping into metal" is kind of hard to understand - is it a single 'clank'? multiple? a grind? do you feel anything like a shudder?
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Old 02-16-2009, 12:38 PM   #5
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It is multiple clanks and yes i can feel a shudder while it happens, I would not say its a grinding noise. I do not think I happens in other gears because I was driving slow with the windows down on a quiet road so the chances of me hearing it would be high.

When I say "engaging first" I mean, I feel and hear the noise in between the clutch being fully depressed and fully engaged. (while releasing the clutch)

After driving for a bit and then starting in first again the multiple clanks turn into only one or two and I can barely feel a shudder if at all.

I hope this clears up my previous explanation
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so could the root of it just be the well-known clutch shudder with the clanks coming from something like the exhaust contacting somewhere?
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Old 02-16-2009, 04:29 PM   #7
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I dont believe so. Clutch shudder maybe, but why would it start now? I doubt its the exhaust since the noise decreases as the car seems to warm up.

I thought either the clutch is on its last leg or I broke something in the transmission, but since nobody has mentioned that I guess its not.

I was scared it was the transmission because of the clunking and didnt think a clutch would make that sound.

Does it possibly have something to do with the cold?
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the clutch shudder is worst in cold damp conditions and tends to go away as the flywheel / friction material warms up - if shudder is causing the exhaust (or whatever) to clank, then the clank will go away when the shudder goes away

I think at this point it would be best to find a local who can take a drive with you since these things are hard to diagnose remotely
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Old 02-16-2009, 08:58 PM   #9
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Thanks for the advice, that sounds pretty plausible. I am meeting with a shop guy probably on wednesday to go for a drive.
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Old 02-17-2009, 10:20 PM   #10
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Took it to a subie dealer and a tech took a ride with me and he thinks its an external noise possibly from the pitch mounts. The noise really goes away after I drive it for five minutes so I am happy its nothing major. He's giving me a quote tomorrw.
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