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Old 04-08-2002, 08:55 PM   #1
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Default Well, my baby is in the shop to be transformed

I dropped the car off at the dealer today to start the N/A build up. The Stage 1 Cobb heads and Street cams are supposed to get to the dealer on Wednesday. Along with that stuff the dealer will also be installing a Fidanza aluminum flywheel (dropped that off with the car), a Clutchmasters Stage 1 clutch (should show up from UPS tomorrow), and STi engine mounts (dropped those off today, too, I installed the tranny mount on Friday). I should (hopefully) have my Injen intake by the end of the week to finish things off.

After driving around for 3 or 4 weeks on only 3 cylinders this thing is going to feel like an absolute rocketship by the time it is done. Based on dynoing at ~114hp to all four wheels with the stock engine and MRT exhaust, I'm hoping for at least 140hp to the wheels, maybe as high as 150hp once this is done. I will add either a tuned Unichip or a reflashed ECU to the equation to finish it all off - those will have to wait a week or two for me to get things figured out.

I can't wait to hit VIR with this thing next Monday and Tuesday.

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Old 04-08-2002, 09:18 PM   #2
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Patrick Olsen - Very nice amigo! can't wait to see it. For more flexiblilty, I'd consider getting the tuned Unichip w/ the Rev module (with those new cams an extra 500-700rpms would definately help).
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Old 04-09-2002, 08:45 AM   #3
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I think I'm leaning towards an ECU reflash at this point. It's cheaper, it doesn't involve any add-on wiring or anything like that, and it could do everything (and more) that the Unichip could do. The only downside is that I would have to drive over to Toronto to get this done the right way - on the dyno. That's about a 8-1/2 or 9hr drive each way.

Also, according to Cobb, the Stage 1 heads and Street cams are really designed to optimize the stock rev range. Now, if the dyno shows that power wants to keep going higher even at redline, then I would go ahead and bump the rev limiter up, but that's not supposed to be the case with this setup.

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Old 04-09-2002, 09:11 AM   #4
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Hey Pat,

You're not allowed to have the fastest Legacy. JK.

Your mods list looks like mine. I guess they would be similar anyway, same engine, etc. In a way, I guess you're lucky that your old engine decided to perform the way it did. I cringe at the thought of taking apart a perfectly good engine.

After the heads are ported and polished with the proper valve job, the next thing to be bolted on my car is a prototype greddy (potentially) supercharger.

Keep us updated.
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Old 04-09-2002, 01:06 PM   #5
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Sounds like a sweet setup, but geez Pat, cutting it a little close? I'm interested to hear about how she runs at VIR. Too bad the 'Stang wont make the trip...

Lets hope that you return from VIR w/o any issues. Two of the last three trips, you returned with an 'issue' (VIR #1 - snapped a stud off, and VIR #3 current engine issue.)

Good luck

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Old 04-09-2002, 07:08 PM   #6
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Sounds like a sweet setup, but geez Pat, cutting it a little close? I'm interested to hear about how she runs at VIR. Too bad the 'Stang wont make the trip...
Ehhh, plenty of time! I specifically arranged with Cobb to rush the job so that the heads would be back tomorrow, giving me a few days for the dealer to get things put back together.

I, too, am interested to see how it runs at VIR, and I, too, wish I could bring the Mustang. Alas....

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Lets hope that you return from VIR w/o any issues. Two of the last three trips, you returned with an 'issue' (VIR #1 - snapped a stud off, and VIR #3 current engine issue.)
No, no, no. Summit Point was where I broke off the stud. And I can't really blame the last trip to VIR for the engine problem, as it was misfiring 3 or 4 weeks before the track event. On the other hand, both times my head gaskets went the first indications were after my last session at VIR during two different trips. Keep yer fingers crossed!

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Old 04-09-2002, 07:57 PM   #7
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Where are you gettin the work done? CT? or TX?
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Old 04-09-2002, 08:04 PM   #8
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How much is all this costing. Or better yet, how much does it cost every time you blow a head gasket?

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Old 04-11-2002, 12:20 PM   #9
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The work is being done at my local dealer here in CT.

How much is this all costing? I don't know, I'll have to add everything up when it's done. It's not going to be cheap, but, hey - "speed costs money, how fast do you want to spend?"

Thus far it has cost me $0 the two times the head gaskets blew, because both repairs were warranteed. This bad head fix probably would have cost in the vicinity of $1000 I would guess - it would have depended on whether or not the head needed to replaced. At this point I don't know.

Anyway, my careful planning is going out the window, and this is turning into a real time crunch. I was supposed to have the heads back on Wednesday, but they didn't show, so I called Cobb yesterday afternoon. "Sorry, we didn't get the cams back from the cam grinder until today, then we had to set up the valve train, we're going to get them out tonight." OK, roger that. I went to the dealer after work and explained all that, and told them I had asked Cobb to have them do the before noon delivery. I called Cobb later (evening my time, 4 or 5 their time) and the heads still hadn't gone out, but they were one their way out the door any minute now. But then they never called me back with a tracking number, which kinda had me worried.

This morning I had to teach a class, so I had told the dealer to just leave a message on my machine when the heads got there. I finish teaching, get back to my office, nuthin'. Dammit!! Called the dealer, and sure enough no heads. Called Cobb, and they put me on with Trey. "Oh, you didn't see my email? Blah blah blah, didn't go out last night, they'll go out today overnight." Double dammit!! The only good thing is that the heads are completely set up, proper shims, etc, so they'll just bolt right on, the dealer techs won't have to monkey with them at all.

Meanwhile, my car's been at the dealer for 3 days now. Have the done a damn thing to it yet? No, of course not!! God forbid they start work before they have all the parts. Well, hey, *****heads, you don't need the heads to replace the clutch, flywheel, and motor mounts!! And I specifically dropped the car off a day before the heads were originally due to arrive so you could pull the old heads off check to ensure there was no damage to the shortblock. If they pull the heads off tomorrow and find additional problems I will go absolutely ape***** on them, and then I will take their loaner down to VIR for two days and thrash the ever-living ***** out of it!!

Wish me luck on this adventure!!
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Old 04-11-2002, 12:32 PM   #10
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g'luck pat! sounds like a similar plan i wanted to do, but not enuf dough

oh, yeah! don't you hate when they screw up "time schedules"???
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Old 04-11-2002, 01:07 PM   #11
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what are you talking about? Of course they need heads to do the clutch. The head gig-a-ma-rod attaches to the clutch do-hickey-traption, allowing for maximum vectoring of torque output to the wheels. Geez, you guys amaze me sometimes.



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Old 04-11-2002, 01:41 PM   #12
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Holy Gezus feller. Is Cobb using monkeys to do the work? And your dealer sounds like he is sitting on his hands trying to tickle is colon. You need to hand out some red-headed step child beatings...

Heh... I bet the break in period for the new parts will be the drive to VIR. Worked for my tires .

Bah... the dealer has sunday nite work on the car. I'm sure it'll be ready monday early. Oh wait... you have to be down there on the 15th. Shoot.

Good luck Pat... hand out some ass whippin for me.

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Old 04-11-2002, 03:03 PM   #13
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Mike is right:

how could yo forget to factor in the dissasembly of the torque-vector-coupling-actuator? It plays a huge role in the induction angle of the the vario-valve action in the heads. So of course you need the heads on in order to do the clutch.

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Old 04-11-2002, 03:53 PM   #14
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"You need to hand out some red-headed step child beatings..."

Patrick has red hair.

I know exactly how you feel. If only you could rely on the shop to do it how I expected.
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Old 04-11-2002, 04:39 PM   #15
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"You need to hand out some red-headed step child beatings..."

Patrick has red hair.

I know exactly how you feel. If only you could rely on the shop to do it how I expected.
I know... but who better... hell he prolly recieved a few... j/k Pat.

Being in the navy, they teach em good how to hand out beatings... I think.


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Old 04-12-2002, 12:34 AM   #16
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Hey Pat,

whew ... give'em he.. :monkey: and good luck !

When you get the chance how about providing us some feedback on the Toyo's compared to the Firestones ...

Thanks

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Old 04-12-2002, 09:22 AM   #17
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...show me the way!

"I got your six!"

It's always nice to have someone to look up to....to determine what to and not to do! ...hopefully you all know what I mean!



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