motor swap from 02-03 to 06-07

Speeding101 · 02-21-2009, 12:44 AM

is it possible?

i have heard of an ej25 going into a body designed for an ej20 but can an ej 20 go into a body made for an ej25?

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Speeding101 · 02-21-2009, 01:21 AM

need help bad!!!

rexworx · 02-21-2009, 02:00 AM

It can be done, but you also need to swap the wiring harness.

Why would you want to do this in the first place?

Speeding101 · 02-21-2009, 01:51 PM

thank you... i have the wiring harness... but would i only need to redo from ecu to enginge bay. or should i rewire the entire car?

EsubaruJ · 02-22-2009, 01:58 AM

I would assume it would just need to swap the bulkhead, you would just have to splice into the factory harness. But I am curious as to why you want to swap to an ej20..

Speeding101 · 02-22-2009, 02:00 AM

well i wrecked my 03 beyond repair and i have an 06 body... so...
well you get the picture!!!

EsubaruJ · 02-22-2009, 02:02 AM

Oh i see lol. Yeah all you will need is the bulkhead from the bugeye and you will just splice it into the rest of the factory harness of the hawkeye. Pull the motor before the harness lol.

Speeding101 · 02-22-2009, 02:17 AM

well im going to pull the motor out of my bugeye... then i am going to pull the harness and ecu out... place ecu and harness into the hawkeye...

does that sound right?

EsubaruJ · 02-22-2009, 02:31 AM

Is there an existing harness in the hawkeye?

Uncle Scotty · 02-22-2009, 02:32 AM

this is a bad idea....there are MANY issues other than the cable throttle/dbw throttle

the 06 has avcs and the earlier has not

just a bad idea

Speeding101 · 02-22-2009, 02:37 AM

yes there is an existing harnes in the hawkeye...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uncle Scotty

this is a bad idea....there are MANY issues other than the cable throttle/dbw throttle

the 06 has avcs and the earlier has not

just a bad idea

ok? but if i strip the body straight down to bare metal and nothing else will that matter?
im going straight from one to the other...

1sicWRX · 02-22-2009, 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uncle Scotty

this is a bad idea....there are MANY issues other than the cable throttle/dbw throttle

the 06 has avcs and the earlier has not

just a bad idea

I don't see how it's a bad idea if he swapping in engine, wiring harness and ecu out of his bugeye into a shell of an 06. It's basically the same car. AVCS would not apply nor would drive by wire if he plans on ripping out all the existing leftovers of the 06...

Speeding101 · 02-22-2009, 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1sicWRX

I don't see how it's a bad idea if he swapping in engine, wiring harness and ecu out of his bugeye into a shell of an 06. It's basically the same car. AVCS would not apply nor would drive by wire if he plans on ripping out all the existing leftovers of the 06...

ya... well im not even sure what this AVCS is...
bu7t if it has something to do with drivetrain then that is going too!!!

Uncle Scotty · 02-22-2009, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1sicWRX

I don't see how it's a bad idea if he swapping in engine, wiring harness and ecu out of his bugeye into a shell of an 06. It's basically the same car. AVCS would not apply nor would drive by wire if he plans on ripping out all the existing leftovers of the 06...

god...where DO these people come from ?????

putting a USDM ej205 2.0 into an 06 is like putting a v6 in z28 camaro

waste of time

plain
pure
and
simple

this is one of those 'watch this' ones on youtube that everybody laughs at because it is so stupid

autvincereautmori · 02-22-2009, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uncle Scotty

god...where DO these people come from ?????

putting a USDM ej205 2.0 into an 06 is like putting a v6 in z28 camaro

waste of time

plain
pure
and
simple

this is one of those 'watch this' ones on youtube that everybody laughs at because it is so stupid

so do you think that everyone who does a front end conversion is wasting their time i think it would be a great idea.. the hawkeye has better brakes and looks better imo.. plus he has the shell and his 03 is wrecked to hell so why not? i love the 2.0 that i have for the high revs..

MUGWUMP · 02-22-2009, 03:11 PM

Part out bugeye for $$ for 06+ drivetrain?

1sicWRX · 02-22-2009, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uncle Scotty

god...where DO these people come from ?????

putting a USDM ej205 2.0 into an 06 is like putting a v6 in z28 camaro

waste of time

plain
pure
and
simple

this is one of those 'watch this' ones on youtube that everybody laughs at because it is so stupid

Where do people like you come from?? Your snobbery is sickening. I'll be the first to admit that you give great advice all the time but just because you give it, doesn't make it correct because "Uncle Scotty" said it. He has an 06 lying around with no motor in it and an 03 that is now damaged beyond repair, and instead of buying a new car he can easily swap the powertrain out of his existing one. IT'S MORE OF A FINANCIAL DECISION THAN ANYTHING. I don't see what's so stupid about it. If he had an 06 with a working 2.5 and swapped a 2.0, yeah, it would be retarded but that is not the case here. It's the same ****ing car without a motor in it. It's nowhere near your comparison of a v6 going into a Z28 either. The s EJ205 makes identical hp numbers to the 2.5. Not all of us here can afford to buy a new car nor $1800 to buy a new shortblock, especially if he practically has an extra WRX just sitting around with a capable WRX motor to put in it.

03silverblt · 02-22-2009, 11:09 PM

/\/\/\ LOL, I also agree with the above comment, if you have 2 spairs make 1 out of it and a 2.0 is nothing like compairing and putting in a v6 into a z28. haha

I think you should call TRAN and get an SR420DET in there. Heck call Bryan Spilner and order 3 straight from Japan. j/khaha

Speeding101 · 02-23-2009, 04:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1sicWRX

Where do people like you come from?? Your snobbery is sickening. I'll be the first to admit that you give great advice all the time but just because you give it, doesn't make it correct because "Uncle Scotty" said it. He has an 06 lying around with no motor in it and an 03 that is now damaged beyond repair, and instead of buying a new car he can easily swap the powertrain out of his existing one. IT'S MORE OF A FINANCIAL DECISION THAN ANYTHING. I don't see what's so stupid about it. If he had an 06 with a working 2.5 and swapped a 2.0, yeah, it would be retarded but that is not the case here. It's the same ****ing car without a motor in it. It's nowhere near your comparison of a v6 going into a Z28 either. The s EJ205 makes identical hp numbers to the 2.5. Not all of us here can afford to buy a new car nor $1800 to buy a new shortblock, especially if he practically has an extra WRX just sitting around with a capable WRX motor to put in it.

thank you... ill keep all informed and updated on the progress

1sicWRX · 02-23-2009, 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speeding101

thank you... ill keep all informed and updated on the progress

For sure man, good luck!

deebee8 · 02-23-2009, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uncle Scotty

god...where DO these people come from ?????

putting a USDM ej205 2.0 into an 06 is like putting a v6 in z28 camaro

waste of time

plain
pure
and
simple

this is one of those 'watch this' ones on youtube that everybody laughs at because it is so stupid

im so sick and tired of your useless posts.

this guy made it clear as mud what he has.

HE HAS AN 06 SHELL

HE HAS AN 02 MOTOR, ECU, AND WIRING HARNESS

Straight forward swap.

There is ABSOLUTELY nothing wrong with that.

Both the 06 motor and 02 motor produce the same amount of HP stock.

Why would you even try and question him.

Speeding101 · 02-23-2009, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deebee8

im so sick and tired of your useless posts.

this guy made it clear as mud what he has.

HE HAS AN 06 SHELL

HE HAS AN 02 MOTOR, ECU, AND WIRING HARNESS

Straight forward swap.

There is ABSOLUTELY nothing wrong with that.

Both the 06 motor and 02 motor produce the same amount of HP stock.

Why would you even try and question him.

thank you yet again!!!

02-21-2009, 12:44 AM	#1
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Speeding101 Scooby Newbie Member#: 160955 Join Date: Oct 2007 Chapter/Region: BAIC Location: Copperopolis CA, 95228 Vehicle: work working on it working on it	thank you... i have the wiring harness... but would i only need to redo from ecu to enginge bay. or should i rewire the entire car?

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EsubaruJ Scooby Specialist Member#: 200008 Join Date: Jan 2009 Chapter/Region: RMIC Location: Salt Lake City Vehicle: 85 AE86 01XJcrawler02WRXsold	I would assume it would just need to swap the bulkhead, you would just have to splice into the factory harness. But I am curious as to why you want to swap to an ej20..

02-22-2009, 02:00 AM	#6
Speeding101 Scooby Newbie Member#: 160955 Join Date: Oct 2007 Chapter/Region: BAIC Location: Copperopolis CA, 95228 Vehicle: work working on it working on it	well i wrecked my 03 beyond repair and i have an 06 body... so... well you get the picture!!!

02-22-2009, 02:02 AM	#7
EsubaruJ Scooby Specialist Member#: 200008 Join Date: Jan 2009 Chapter/Region: RMIC Location: Salt Lake City Vehicle: 85 AE86 01XJcrawler02WRXsold	Oh i see lol. Yeah all you will need is the bulkhead from the bugeye and you will just splice it into the rest of the factory harness of the hawkeye. Pull the motor before the harness lol.

02-22-2009, 02:17 AM	#8
Speeding101 Scooby Newbie Member#: 160955 Join Date: Oct 2007 Chapter/Region: BAIC Location: Copperopolis CA, 95228 Vehicle: work working on it working on it	well im going to pull the motor out of my bugeye... then i am going to pull the harness and ecu out... place ecu and harness into the hawkeye... does that sound right?

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Uncle Scotty NASIOC Supporter Member#: 16200 Join Date: Mar 2002 Vehicle: OK Houston we have an Uncle	this is a bad idea....there are MANY issues other than the cable throttle/dbw throttle the 06 has avcs and the earlier has not just a bad idea

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03silverblt Scooby Newbie Member#: 163367 Join Date: Nov 2007 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: San Diego, ca. Vehicle: 03 wrx stg1 silver	/\/\/\ LOL, I also agree with the above comment, if you have 2 spairs make 1 out of it and a 2.0 is nothing like compairing and putting in a v6 into a z28. haha I think you should call TRAN and get an SR420DET in there. Heck call Bryan Spilner and order 3 straight from Japan. j/khaha