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Old 02-22-2009, 05:05 PM   #1
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Default 20G hybrid VS Stage 2 STI

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How would my car do against a stage 2 sti? not from a launch because i know somone is going to post something along the lines of " it depends on the driver" i just really want an idea, there are really not to many subaru's in the area...
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Old 02-22-2009, 05:20 PM   #2
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???

Maybe this should be in the newbie or general forum...
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Old 02-22-2009, 05:21 PM   #3
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and maybe it shouldn't?
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Old 02-22-2009, 05:28 PM   #4
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lol, a 20G WRX would rape a stage 2 sti.
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Old 02-22-2009, 05:31 PM   #5
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If it's tuned right, it should pull away pretty handily. Especially once you start winding it out all the way.

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Old 02-22-2009, 05:37 PM   #6
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That would destroy at Stage 2.
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Old 02-22-2009, 05:51 PM   #7
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you will eat his A@@. from a light, a dig, you will pull mad
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Old 02-22-2009, 05:52 PM   #8
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you gonna lose. ib4tl
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Old 02-22-2009, 06:58 PM   #9
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He will have you intitally but when you 20 spools up you will be out like a boner in sweatpants.
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Old 02-22-2009, 07:20 PM   #10
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not that it matters greatly, but is it a 8cm or 7cm and a TD06...

it will definetly pull on a stage 2 sti
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Old 02-22-2009, 07:25 PM   #11
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If you're on a wrx 5-speed you will eat a stage 2 STi for lunch.

From a dig, from a roll.. everything but a road course.
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Old 02-22-2009, 07:27 PM   #12
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He will have you intitally but when you 20 spools up you will be out like a boner in sweatpants.
ahahah lol... The STi wont stand a chance. A wrx with a 16g can take a stage 2 STi.
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Old 02-22-2009, 08:01 PM   #13
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That would destroy at Stage 2.

Can we find out

For real though, both set ups with balls to the wall tuning, the 20G will pull away no doubt. But the OP states 18psi. I would be astonished if a 20g could go 11's on 22 pounds.
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Old 02-22-2009, 08:19 PM   #14
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remember that a hybrid has higher CR's, even at 18 psi he would destroy a stage 2 sti. Now the real question comes up. Will his driveline be able to withstand the additional torque?
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Old 02-22-2009, 10:19 PM   #15
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my 07 with fp 20g 8cm on 18psi would pull on a stage 2 sti no problems. I'd pull away slowly in the midrange but as soon as we got up in the rpm it was no contest.
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Old 02-23-2009, 09:16 AM   #16
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How about a 20G sti?
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Old 02-23-2009, 09:27 AM   #17
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....... well i would say sti just because the tranny can handle the 20G to be pushed harder. Other then that, no clue. You have to be way more descriptive. Does the STi have built internals? Is it running stock injectors? Is it with meth and 25psi??? to many variables.
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Old 02-23-2009, 09:32 AM   #18
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Can we find out

For real though, both set ups with balls to the wall tuning, the 20G will pull away no doubt. But the OP states 18psi. I would be astonished if a 20g could go 11's on 22 pounds.


Why wouldn't it? My 18g went 11's at 22 psi on a 2.0L.
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Old 02-23-2009, 09:48 AM   #19
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How about a 20G sti?
You the Guy that got the motor built By Turbo Time in cary nc? With a nice tune it should beat on the stage 2 sti pretty good.

But if you are the guy from cary and the 20g sti is romans....I tuned that and he will run away lol
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Old 02-23-2009, 10:44 AM   #20
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Why wouldn't it? My 18g went 11's at 22 psi on a 2.0L.
thats awesome. I want to be there a year after I get out of college.
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Old 02-23-2009, 04:11 PM   #21
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Can we find out

For real though, both set ups with balls to the wall tuning, the 20G will pull away no doubt. But the OP states 18psi. I would be astonished if a 20g could go 11's on 22 pounds.
Why? It's not that uncommon.
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Old 02-23-2009, 04:16 PM   #22
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You should be able to trap 120..
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Old 02-23-2009, 04:24 PM   #23
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Old 02-23-2009, 04:49 PM   #24
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Why wouldn't it? My 18g went 11's at 22 psi on a 2.0L.
300 lbs, powerband and gearing.....

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Why? It's not that uncommon.
really? pump gas 20g's in the 11's is common? links?

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Open source tune target 18psi MAF maxed out
yeah the 16 bit ECU licks ballz. The 300 g/s MAF limit and the 24.75 psi boost limit are pains in my arse. My HTA Green is maxing my MAF at ~5000rpm.

The MAF problem can be worked around by getting a larger MAF tube and running a half MAF scale (IE 150g/s = 300 g/s and 300 g/s = 600g/s, basically just divide your whole MAF scale by 2, then divide all your loads by 2).

The boost problem can be overcome by always running less than 24.75 psi or by rescaling the MAP sensor so 24.75 psi is actually something like 30psi....basically you just shift the whole MAP scale down by 5 psi so when the ECU says you're at 22psi your actually at 27psi....this allows you to run higher boost and still keep the boost limit fuel cut working.

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Old 02-23-2009, 05:01 PM   #25
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300 lbs, powerband and gearing.....



really? pump gas 20g's in the 11's is common? links?
yeah any links to that? ive seem proof of only one and he was prolly on race gase (paintball guy)
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