20G hybrid VS Stage 2 STI

odehboy · 02-22-2009, 05:05 PM

I own a 2002 WRX hybrid

Brand new STI short block
Wiesco Drop in's
Walb. 255
DW 850 cc
STI cams
TGV deletes
08 STI oil pump
08 STI water pump
New 5spd with about 7k
Deadbolt 20g
Invida Divorced DP catted
CSS top mount (dont purchase anything from them)
Exedy stage 1 clutch brand new oem flywheel
stage 1 clutch brand new oem fly
Open source tune target 18psi MAF maxed out

How would my car do against a stage 2 sti? not from a launch because i know somone is going to post something along the lines of " it depends on the driver" i just really want an idea, there are really not to many subaru's in the area...

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Five-seveN · 02-22-2009, 05:20 PM

???

Maybe this should be in the newbie or general forum...

odehboy · 02-22-2009, 05:21 PM

and maybe it shouldn't?

tux121 · 02-22-2009, 05:28 PM

lol, a 20G WRX would rape a stage 2 sti.

reddoak · 02-22-2009, 05:31 PM

If it's tuned right, it should pull away pretty handily. Especially once you start winding it out all the way.

CSS, snicker! (I was in on the 1st group buy.)

lolawd · 02-22-2009, 05:37 PM

That would destroy at Stage 2.

moorebl · 02-22-2009, 05:51 PM

you will eat his A@@. from a light, a dig, you will pull mad

penusai · 02-22-2009, 05:52 PM

you gonna lose. ib4tl

Buster05 · 02-22-2009, 06:58 PM

He will have you intitally but when you 20 spools up you will be out like a boner in sweatpants.

Boxer4u · 02-22-2009, 07:20 PM

not that it matters greatly, but is it a 8cm or 7cm and a TD06...

it will definetly pull on a stage 2 sti

Lexington · 02-22-2009, 07:25 PM

If you're on a wrx 5-speed you will eat a stage 2 STi for lunch.

From a dig, from a roll.. everything but a road course.

BlueRallyWrx · 02-22-2009, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buster05

He will have you intitally but when you 20 spools up you will be out like a boner in sweatpants.

ahahah lol... The STi wont stand a chance. A wrx with a 16g can take a stage 2 STi.

STi Mikey · 02-22-2009, 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lolawd

That would destroy at Stage 2.

Can we find out

For real though, both set ups with balls to the wall tuning, the 20G will pull away no doubt. But the OP states 18psi. I would be astonished if a 20g could go 11's on 22 pounds.

MrSlowbaru · 02-22-2009, 08:19 PM

remember that a hybrid has higher CR's, even at 18 psi he would destroy a stage 2 sti. Now the real question comes up. Will his driveline be able to withstand the additional torque?

VladiWrX · 02-22-2009, 10:19 PM

my 07 with fp 20g 8cm on 18psi would pull on a stage 2 sti no problems. I'd pull away slowly in the midrange but as soon as we got up in the rpm it was no contest.

odehboy · 02-23-2009, 09:16 AM

How about a 20G sti?

fulie · 02-23-2009, 09:27 AM

....... well i would say sti just because the tranny can handle the 20G to be pushed harder. Other then that, no clue. You have to be way more descriptive. Does the STi have built internals? Is it running stock injectors? Is it with meth and 25psi??? to many variables.

CoolRex · 02-23-2009, 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STi Mikey

Can we find out

For real though, both set ups with balls to the wall tuning, the 20G will pull away no doubt. But the OP states 18psi. I would be astonished if a 20g could go 11's on 22 pounds.

Why wouldn't it? My 18g went 11's at 22 psi on a 2.0L.

robbieshonda · 02-23-2009, 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by odehboy

How about a 20G sti?

You the Guy that got the motor built By Turbo Time in cary nc? With a nice tune it should beat on the stage 2 sti pretty good.

But if you are the guy from cary and the 20g sti is romans....I tuned that and he will run away lol

fulie · 02-23-2009, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoolRex

Why wouldn't it? My 18g went 11's at 22 psi on a 2.0L.

thats awesome. I want to be there a year after I get out of college.

zeropsi · 02-23-2009, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STi Mikey

Can we find out

For real though, both set ups with balls to the wall tuning, the 20G will pull away no doubt. But the OP states 18psi. I would be astonished if a 20g could go 11's on 22 pounds.

Why? It's not that uncommon.

TimeAtk · 02-23-2009, 04:16 PM

You should be able to trap 120..

rjrutzky · 02-23-2009, 04:24 PM

Srt-4

Phatron · 02-23-2009, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoolRex

Why wouldn't it? My 18g went 11's at 22 psi on a 2.0L.

300 lbs, powerband and gearing.....

Quote:

Originally Posted by zer0psi

Why? It's not that uncommon.

really? pump gas 20g's in the 11's is common? links?

Quote:

Originally Posted by odehboy

Open source tune target 18psi MAF maxed out

yeah the 16 bit ECU licks ballz. The 300 g/s MAF limit and the 24.75 psi boost limit are pains in my arse. My HTA Green is maxing my MAF at ~5000rpm.

The MAF problem can be worked around by getting a larger MAF tube and running a half MAF scale (IE 150g/s = 300 g/s and 300 g/s = 600g/s, basically just divide your whole MAF scale by 2, then divide all your loads by 2).

The boost problem can be overcome by always running less than 24.75 psi or by rescaling the MAP sensor so 24.75 psi is actually something like 30psi....basically you just shift the whole MAP scale down by 5 psi so when the ECU says you're at 22psi your actually at 27psi....this allows you to run higher boost and still keep the boost limit fuel cut working.

godforbid67 · 02-23-2009, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phatron

300 lbs, powerband and gearing.....

really? pump gas 20g's in the 11's is common? links?

yeah any links to that? ive seem proof of only one and he was prolly on race gase (paintball guy)

02-22-2009, 05:05 PM	#1
odehboy Scooby Newbie Member#: 184958 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: 3G TL	20G hybrid VS Stage 2 STI I own a 2002 WRX hybrid Brand new STI short block Wiesco Drop in's Walb. 255 DW 850 cc STI cams TGV deletes 08 STI oil pump 08 STI water pump New 5spd with about 7k Deadbolt 20g Invida Divorced DP catted CSS top mount (dont purchase anything from them) Exedy stage 1 clutch brand new oem flywheel stage 1 clutch brand new oem fly Open source tune target 18psi MAF maxed out How would my car do against a stage 2 sti? not from a launch because i know somone is going to post something along the lines of " it depends on the driver" i just really want an idea, there are really not to many subaru's in the area... * Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

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02-22-2009, 05:31 PM	#5
reddoak Scooby Specialist Member#: 147628 Join Date: Apr 2007 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Central FL Vehicle: 2011 MAN-WAGON Silver	If it's tuned right, it should pull away pretty handily. Especially once you start winding it out all the way. CSS, snicker! (I was in on the 1st group buy.)

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02-22-2009, 05:51 PM	#7
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02-22-2009, 05:52 PM	#8
penusai Scooby Specialist Member#: 102808 Join Date: Dec 2005 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: Queens, NY Vehicle: 2002 v8 EJ207 v7 6spd FP Green	you gonna lose. ib4tl

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02-22-2009, 07:25 PM	#11
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02-22-2009, 08:19 PM	#14
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02-23-2009, 09:16 AM	#16
odehboy Scooby Newbie Member#: 184958 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: 3G TL	How about a 20G sti?

02-23-2009, 09:27 AM	#17
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02-23-2009, 04:24 PM	#23
rjrutzky Scooby Specialist Member#: 30367 Join Date: Nov 2002 Chapter/Region: South East Location: nashville, tn Vehicle: 2005 Legacy GT NASA SE PTB Champ	Srt-4