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Old 04-09-2002, 08:51 AM   #1
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Default 225s on a wagon with a 7-inch P1 wheel?

A search turned up no definitive answer, so I'm checking to see if the body of knowledge has been updated recently.

My plan would be (when I need tires next year, that is) to run 225s on my P1 wheels (17x7). The SPT suspension will almost certainly still be on the car, which means it will be about 3/4" lowered.

I know that RidinLow is running 225s with some rubbing issues on Whiteline springs, but his drop is down a ways. He's also running SuperLegs(? izzat right?). Tire Rack recommends 225s for wagons, but recommending and using are two different things. A lot of things fit, but bending the car into a fun corner, and suddenly, things don't fit so well...

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Old 04-09-2002, 12:27 PM   #2
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This is something I want to know also.
My plan was to get some 17X7.5 rims, offset in the 48-52 range with 225 tires, and put them on my wagon with stock suspension.
After reading RidnLow's post, now I have worries.

What are you wagons running in the way of tires and rims?
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Old 04-09-2002, 01:23 PM   #3
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If they rub with the Whitelines, there's the potential to rub with any other springs as well. Travel is limited by the shocks, not springs. Ie. if you max out up travel on stock springs, the wheel is just as far into the fender as if you max out up travel with Whiteline springs.

I'm running 215/45R17 Kumhos on 17x7.5 Rota Subzeros (ET 48) with a Whiteline RSB and otherwise stock TS suspension. I've done some very agressive driving with a total of 4 of us in the car and haven't had any rubbing problems.
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Old 04-09-2002, 02:12 PM   #4
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215/45 17 Kumho 712's on OZ SL's, 17x7, ET48, no rubbing with stock suspension & 20mm rear bar.

225/45 17 HTRZ2's on OZ SL's, 17x7, ET48, no rubbing with stock suspension & 20mm rear bar.

225/50 16 BFG R1's on stock rims, no rubbing with stock suspension & 20mm rear bar during autoxing.

205/55 16 Yokohama A032R's on stock rims, no rubbing with stock suspension.

225/45 17 HTRZ2's on OZ SL's, 17x7, ET48, awful rubbing with Whiteline springs, 20mm rear bar.

225/50 16 BFG R1's on GC8 2.5RS rims, to be determined, but these stick out an extra 1/8" towards the fender compared to the 225/45 HTRZ2 package.

So you may be okay with a relatively narrow 225 wide tire on a 17x7 ET53 or 17x7.5 ET48 wheel if my super wide 225 R Compounds on ET53 wheels stick out farther than the 225 street tires on 17x7 ET48 wheels. You _might_ be okay.
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Old 04-09-2002, 03:10 PM   #5
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I would stick with 215/45/17 for the wagons, while I might go for the 225/45R17 for the WRX Sedan.

In other markets, in the STi Sedans, Subaru has provided the 225/45R17 tires, while for the STi Wagons, Subaru has resolutely stuck with the 215/45R17s. Maybe the Wagons are optimized for the 215s ??

Later...AH
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Old 04-09-2002, 03:41 PM   #6
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Running 225x45s (PP S0-3s) and ASA JS5s-17x7s on my wagon. Wheel offset is 52 (or 53). Stock suspension ('cept for Cusco adj rear sway bar). No problem whatsoever; not even close.

I'm now waiting for some adjustable struts w/ the STi springs (from Cobb- their Stage 2 package). Discussed wheels/tires, and my concern w/ possible rubbing with Josh at Cobb. He said they have a number of folk running this setup w/ no problems at all. Key appears to be proper offset. So, I'm ASSUMING I'll have no problem when the struts/springs get here ("6-8 weeks"...) I'll sing out if I do have problems, but don't think I will.

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Old 04-10-2002, 03:11 PM   #7
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Kevin,

I asked this question to Mike Wood of Prodrive on the Scoobynet site last week because I'm ordering Prodrive springs from Luke and have Toyo T1S in 225/45/17 on P1's. He advised "if the geometry is correct that it should not be a problem" because Prodrive uses 225/40/18 with out a problem. He also advised that the Prodrive springs were created specifically to be used with the OEM shocks.

Hope this helps/Matt
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Old 04-10-2002, 04:28 PM   #8
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I'm running 17x225 Azisa s115's on OZ legras, stock struts and springs. No rubbing and don't think I'll have any when I lower 3".
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Old 04-10-2002, 04:39 PM   #9
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Like I said before, no rubbing with 225's & stock suspension. Major rubbing with 225's & a Whitelinish drop.
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Old 04-10-2002, 05:37 PM   #10
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Here's the link to the thread Matt is referring too. http://www.scoobynet.co.uk/bbs/threa...threadid=78320

It is my opinion that you can not go by "tire size". In otherwords, rule out 225 tires or rule in 215 and 205 tires. I've seen the adjusted** measured section width of some 205/55/16 tires equal that or even exceed the adjusted section width of some 225/45/17 tires. Take Bridgestone RE730s or S-03 PPs for example, they both run wider than average for most "sizes". While the new Michilen Pilot Sport A/S runs narrower than average in the 225/45/17 size. I was running the RE730s in the 205/55/16 "size" on a 16x7 wheel with 50mm offset. Now I'm running 215/45/17 Toyo Proxes T1-S on the 17x7 52mm offset P7s. I definitely have more clearance relative to the rear fender with the Toyo Proxes.
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Old 04-10-2002, 07:50 PM   #11
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I have the sti suspension (I believe these are the same springs you have aprox. 3/4 in. drop) but sti struts. wheels are subaru 5 star 17x7 53 offset. I run michelin pilot sports in a 225/45/17. no rubbing at all.
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