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Old 02-27-2009, 10:36 AM   #1
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http://www.themotorreport.com.au/217...iga-awd-wagon/

Not surprised. I expect this vehicle to be sold in many markets eventually; maybe even here.

I wonder how they will position/market this new 7-passenger entry since they also have the Tribeca?

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Old 02-27-2009, 11:04 AM   #2
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according to the article this is a 6 pax
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Old 02-27-2009, 11:08 AM   #3
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according to the article this is a 6 pax
You're correct. According to the Oz-Subaru site it is indeed a 6-passenger vehicle. Interesting...

http://www.subaru.com.au/about-subaru/exiga/

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Old 02-27-2009, 01:19 PM   #4
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Next stop North America ??? 2010 MY would be a good bet.
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Old 02-27-2009, 02:25 PM   #5
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As the first export market Subaru will bring an Aussie-spec version of the Subaru Exiga to the Australian market. The all-wheel-drive wagon will be the company's sixth model to be sold down under. A Japanese-spec model was recently shown at the Melbourne International Motor Show.

The six-seat wagon comes standard with a 2.5-liter horizontally opposed four-cylinder Boxer engine, and is mated to an automatic transmission. It is likely that the base transmission will be a four-speed, with an upgrade available. Second row seats are individual, while a bench seat takes up the third row.

One nice feature about the family car is the entertainment system that comes standard on the vehicle. "The entry level EXIGA will include a DVD entertainment system as standard for second and third row seats," said Subaru Managing Director Nick Senior.

This car will not be identical to the Japanese version, and will have several additional features. These features were not elaborated on, but will be announced closer to the market launch of the car.

"This will be very much a next generation Subaru vehicle and will, of course, focus on the safety, engineering integrity, durability and innovation for which we are renowned," Senior said in a press release. Subaru did indicate that the exterior of the Oz model will be identical to the Japanese version.

The Australia-spec Subaru Exiga will go on sale there in November. Pricing for the car will be announced at a later date. In Japan the car costs between 1,995,000 (AU$31,615) and 2,782,500 (AU$44,100).


EXIGA is Sixth Subaru
Subaru today confirmed the innovative and versatile EXIGA All-Wheel Drive wagon will join its Australian line-up later this year.

Unveiling a Japanese domestic-specification EXIGA at Melbourne International Motor Show, Subaru Managing Director, Nick Senior, said the six-seater family wagon will go on sale around November.

It will feature automatic transmission as standard and be powered by a normally aspirated four cylinder 2.5 litre horizontally opposed Boxer engine.

Mr Senior said: "The entry level EXIGA will include a DVD entertainment system as standard for second and third row seats."

He confirmed EXIGA will also feature some yet-to-be revealed innovative technology.

"This will be very much a next generation Subaru vehicle and will, of course, focus on the safety, engineering integrity, durability and innovation for which we are renowned," he said

EXIGA features a spacious cabin with sweeping dashboard, individual second row seats and a stow-away third row bench seat.

Mr Senior said the Japanese domestic specification model displayed at the Melbourne show varies from the Australian versions, but has the same exterior shape.

Australia will be the first export market for EXIGA.
Pricing will be announced at the November launch.






























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Old 02-27-2009, 03:02 PM   #6
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So they took out the worthless center 2nd row seating position presumably to erve as a pass-through for passengers going to the third row. Smart idea. This is what the Pacifica does. However, the loss of the 7th seating position is still a blow as well. They should've made the 2nd row center seat fold flat into the floor so the vehicle can serve as a 6+1 vehicle which would be more appealing.

SOA Blog, we need this vehicle in the US, but please note my 6+1 comment!
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Old 02-27-2009, 03:47 PM   #7
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They did the same thing to the Mazda5/Premacy when they brought it to the US... except they claimed that ditching the middle seat was all part of qualifying for a 5 star safety rating.
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Old 02-28-2009, 12:38 AM   #8
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I'd be OK w/6 seats, and it'd help differentiate from Tribeca. Essentially I'd take a Mazda5 w/Subaru safety, reliability, resale, and boxer/AWD.
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Old 02-28-2009, 06:41 AM   #9
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I doubt that the Exiga will be a viable business proposition in the U.S. market especially since there is no way that this will sticker for less than the Venza.

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Old 02-28-2009, 07:16 AM   #10
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Exiga + Diesel + 6MT =

Holding out hope for USDM...
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Old 02-28-2009, 09:33 AM   #11
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i've been saying ever since it came out.......the next legacy wagon
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i've been saying ever since it came out.......the next legacy wagon
i doubt this.. this has more of a relationship with the forester/impreza than legacy/outback
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i doubt this.. this has more of a relationship with the forester/impreza than legacy/outback
That wouldn't explain why the first US test mule photos we saw of the Exiga back in 2007 had a Legacy Outback body on it. It was originally misidentified as the 2009 Forester but later turned out to be an Exiga wearing Outback bodywork.

http://jalopnik.com/tag/2009-subaru-exiga/?id=309338
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Old 02-28-2009, 05:11 PM   #14
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That wouldn't explain why the first US test mule photos we saw of the Exiga back in 2007 had a Legacy Outback body on it. It was originally misidentified as the 2009 Forester but later turned out to be an Exiga wearing Outback bodywork.

http://jalopnik.com/tag/2009-subaru-exiga/?id=309338
the only thing that seems to really relate to the new legacy/outback is that the wheelbase is about 108.3 while the current legacy is around 105.. other than that the width is 69.9in vs. the outback's 69.7, and about an inch bigger in the front and rear track..the wheelbase may be identical to the newer cars but the width and overall size is still lacking overall especially considering that the new legacy/outback should grow about 3-4in in length width and height.. the fact that this is about 3 inches shorter than the CURRENT outback is even more interesting.


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Like a Subaru Legacy or Outback estate that’s been hitting the weights and creatine powder in equal doses, the new seven-seater Exiga is larger in every department, and shares much of its DNA with the current Subaru Forester and Impreza.
http://motortorque.askaprice.com/new...s-in-japan.asp
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the only thing that seems to really relate to the new legacy/outback is that the wheelbase is about 108.3
[LEGACY CONCEPT: Main specifications]

* Body size (Overall: Length x Width x Height): 4,795 x 1,820 x 1,500mm
* Wheelbase: 2,750mm (108.26 inches)
* Engine: 3.6-litre six-cylinder Horizontally -Opposed engine
* Tire size: 225/45R19
* Occupancy: Four persons

The Exiga platform has an identical wheelbase to the "Legacy Concept" vs. 103.1 inches on the Impreza and Forester which are built on a shortened version of the current Legacy pan. The Exiga platform is clearly related to or even the basis for the new Legacy chassis. Yes it may be narrower, shorter, taller than the new Legacy but you can bet the attachment points and engine mount locations will be close to the same. It's really the first of the new Legacy models and just happens to be a tall wagon people mover. They may even wind up calling it a Legacy something or other when it arrives in North America because the can't use the Exiga name here.
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[LEGACY CONCEPT: Main specifications]

* Body size (Overall: Length x Width x Height): 4,795 x 1,820 x 1,500mm
* Wheelbase: 2,750mm (108.26 inches)
* Engine: 3.6-litre six-cylinder Horizontally -Opposed engine
* Tire size: 225/45R19
* Occupancy: Four persons

The Exiga platform has an identical wheelbase to the "Legacy Concept" vs. 103.1 inches on the Impreza and Forester which are built on a shortened version of the current Legacy pan. The Exiga platform is clearly related to or even the basis for the new Legacy chassis. Yes it may be narrower, shorter, taller than the new Legacy but you can bet the attachment points and engine mount locations will be close to the same. It's really the first of the new Legacy models and just happens to be a tall wagon people mover. They may even wind up calling it a Legacy something or other when it arrives in North America because the can't use the Exiga name here.
i will agree with you that the car in WHEELBASE will be similar, I think the interior and all will be DRASTICALLY different though.
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[LEGACY CONCEPT: Main specifications]

* Body size (Overall: Length x Width x Height): 4,795 x 1,820 x 1,500mm
* Wheelbase: 2,750mm (108.26 inches)
* Engine: 3.6-litre six-cylinder Horizontally -Opposed engine
* Tire size: 225/45R19
* Occupancy: Four persons

The Exiga platform has an identical wheelbase to the "Legacy Concept" vs. 103.1 inches on the Impreza and Forester which are built on a shortened version of the current Legacy pan. The Exiga platform is clearly related to or even the basis for the new Legacy chassis. Yes it may be narrower, shorter, taller than the new Legacy but you can bet the attachment points and engine mount locations will be close to the same. It's really the first of the new Legacy models and just happens to be a tall wagon people mover. They may even wind up calling it a Legacy something or other when it arrives in North America because the can't use the Exiga name here.
Or they can just give it a bit of suspension lift and call it the new Outback. 3rd row seating and a larger greenhouse would create greater separation between Legacy and Outback lines, while parts sharing with the Exiga would reduce costs.
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Or they can just give it a bit of suspension lift and call it the new Outback. 3rd row seating and a larger greenhouse would create greater separation between Legacy and Outback lines, while parts sharing with the Exiga would reduce costs.
if the legacy and outback have the same interior as the exiga i'm gonna punch someone because the exiga has the same interior trim as the forester (door cards as well as a very similar dash as well... seriously if subaru has the same across the line, it will be very irritating and incredibly boring.. the legacy and outback better have a nicer interior especially with nicer interior trim pieces
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Or they can just give it a bit of suspension lift and call it the new Outback.
Since the Outback exists in these territories already, and the Exiga is not called by the same name as the Outback in those territories, I think this pretty much is Subaru's way of saying this is a different vehicle entirely. If the Exiga came here as the Outback, what would the Outback be in the Exiga territories? I could se them modifying the Exiga and selling it as an Oiutback though. Perhaps adding cladding, raising it, maybe using the 3.6 H would be ways to do this.

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if the legacy and outback have the same interior as the exiga i'm gonna punch someone because the exiga has the same interior trim as the forester (door cards as well as a very similar dash as well... seriously if subaru has the same across the line, it will be very irritating and incredibly boring.. the legacy and outback better have a nicer interior especially with nicer interior trim pieces
It'll be the same design I'm sure but there would probably be some modifications as the interior is also a bit larger I think requiring new molds anyway.

In all honesty, I was surprised they actually used the name "Exiga" on a production model as Subaru has used it on several concept cars over the years and people doing Google searches for "Subaru Exiga" might get old info.
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Subaru can easily keep this a 7-passenger model and still have the pass through in the second row (which would be ideal). Looking at this pic, it is clear the second and third rows are the exact sme width so there should be no wheelwell issues:



Simply switching the seats of the second and third rows around so the 2nd row 3-seat Japanese bench is in the third row while the two individual seats from the Japanese third row are in the 2nd row. What this achieves is the following:

1) The ability to carry 7 is still a huge selling feature over 6 even if that 7th seat only works well for a small child or real skinny adult (which is very much needed at least in the US). That would still be better off than the Tribeca who has two seats that are child only.

2) Two seats in the middle row and 3 in the third row solves the access problems to the third row the Tribeca has.

3) Having the 2nd row pass through negates the need of designing a fold flat middle seat as I suggested in an earlier post above.

4) The space between the seats in the second row help add a more spacious feel to the inside of the vehicle.

SOA_Blog, from an engineering standpoint, I'd love to hear your opinion on the feasibility of doing this.
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this will be the replacement for the tribeca
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I believe your eyes deceive you Dad. The seatback bolsters on the 3rd row seats in that photo are clearly closer in by about 4 inches on each side. That would make three abreast in that row really tight even with a child in the middle. As a six seater with a center row pass through the vehicle should feel pretty roomy but I just don't think it's large enough to be a true seven seater.
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I wonder what the special features are that the article states its going to have? I'm still trying to make out the icons on the Nav screen in the attached pics.
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And looking forward to it!
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It should be a good choice for anyone needing an AWD minivan. Not as much room maybe but it's bound to be more fun to drive. If they throw in the diesel engine it will even return some good mileage numbers.
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