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Old 02-01-2009, 04:15 AM   #1
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Hello, this weekend myself and 3 other friends have been working on swapping a 6 speed JMD transmission into the 06 WRX of my friend.

Tonight we finally finished the install, but I have two concerns that I hope someone can assist or recommend how to fixt.

1st, the dog bone on the tranny does not fit. It's off by like half an inch from reaching it's point of connection. 2nd, the shifter is not centered, instead, it's a farther back when in neutral.

My friend also mentioned that the engine seems as if it has moved.

Has anyoen had this happend before? Any suggestions on how to look for or fix the issue?

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Old 02-01-2009, 10:44 AM   #2
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I'd guess the engine moved because the dogbone isn't hooked up... might have something to do with the shifter position too.

Try to pull the drivetrain forward with a lift, jack, comealong, whatever and get the dogbone hooked up.
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Old 02-01-2009, 11:29 AM   #3
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if the motor moutns are still in the crossmember than the engine could not have moved... it could be tilted back or up from where it should be though.

make sure all of your mounts are correct...

im sure its something stupid that you overlooked due to being tired frustrated or drunk...

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Old 02-01-2009, 11:59 AM   #4
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We'll double check everythng today. No mounst from the motor were removed, we only took off/installed the transmission.
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Old 02-01-2009, 03:48 PM   #5
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the motor just tilted when you unhooked the other tranny from the pitch stop...

my advice is just try tilting the motor whatever way you need it to go to mate with the pitch mount...that might help the shifter orientation in the vehicle also
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Old 02-02-2009, 02:17 AM   #6
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We lifted the motor from the back and were able to get the pitch mount bolted up. The shifter did move a little more to the center, but it's still not centered.
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Old 02-02-2009, 09:56 AM   #7
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The 6-speed is a different transmission than the 5 speed. Its got different dimensions and shifter location...
Can you shift into all the gears? Does the clutch work? Is the engine fully mated to the transmission?
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Old 02-02-2009, 11:00 AM   #8
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All gears can be shifted and the clutch works. Engine is fully mated with the tranny.

This tranny was in my 05 Forester and it fit fine with no issues with the shifter location.
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Old 02-02-2009, 12:50 PM   #9
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yo wil.. when i was driving home last night, when driving it HARD, 2nd gear feels like last time.... where it BARELY feels like its going into gear? i dunno why...
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Old 02-04-2009, 06:41 AM   #10
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yo wil.. when i was driving home last night, when driving it HARD, 2nd gear feels like last time.... where it BARELY feels like its going into gear? i dunno why...
Sorry, I was trying to steal it while you were driving.

Another thing is... is there a missing bushing somewhere?
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Old 02-04-2009, 10:30 PM   #11
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6spd needs 6spd tranny mount. If your tranny all bolts up, then it's good because it's aligned. Check the sides of the engine valve covers and the frame. See if it's evenly spaced on both sides. Shifter bent? Make sure the shifter is in the BUSHING and not hanging.
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Old 02-05-2009, 12:55 AM   #12
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Which bushing?

The weird thing is that now the same issue, but reverse is present on my car. His shifter is towards the back and mine is towards the front.
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Old 02-05-2009, 10:25 AM   #13
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Did you use a 6 speed crossmember and tranny mounts?
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Old 02-05-2009, 10:39 AM   #14
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Similar "issue" in my Forester. I swapped in a JDM FSTi transmission and 2, 4, 6 gears put the shifter close to the console/edge of the shifter trim. I figured it was just a different setup/car/etc. I have no issues with the car staying in gear or getting it into gear.

FYI-I used my stock transmission crossmember (5speed) and a Cusco trans mount (which is universal for the 5 and 6 speeds).
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Old 02-05-2009, 11:04 PM   #15
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weird.... BAHHH this has turned chaotic!

heres my situation still,
It shifts into all gears fine, when not on a load.
when im driving hard, from 1st to 2nd, the 2nd doesnt feel like its IN gear, it barely CLICKS in, but weirdly it IS in gear?
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Old 02-06-2009, 12:25 AM   #16
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i think i found out what the problem is guys... im probably wrong but after checking everything else, this seems to be the only problem

as you can see, the dog bone nut thats connected to the tranny/motor, is scooted all the way forward:



if i loosen that up, and scoot the nut/bolt backwards, the motor/tranny SHOULD come forward and up
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Old 02-06-2009, 09:16 AM   #17
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That dog bone should NOT be tighten before the tranny crossmember.

The bushing I'm talking about is the one the lower shift linkage goes onto on the chassis side.
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Old 02-06-2009, 12:24 PM   #18
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ah.. so if i wanna move it, i should loosen up the tranny crossmembers, loosen the dobbone, then move it, then tighten it all up?
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Similar "issue" in my Forester. I swapped in a JDM FSTi transmission and 2, 4, 6 gears put the shifter close to the console/edge of the shifter trim. I figured it was just a different setup/car/etc. I have no issues with the car staying in gear or getting it into gear.

FYI-I used my stock transmission crossmember (5speed) and a Cusco trans mount (which is universal for the 5 and 6 speeds).

Yes i had to do this as well. Something about the tranny didnt want to fit right with the FSTI crossmember. Took it to shop and recommended either spacers or old wrx crossmember.

Recap try to use wrx crossmember.
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Old 02-08-2009, 02:37 PM   #20
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When I originally did this I used the 6 speed crossmember and 5 speed mount. The 5 speed mount is taller so the tranny is held closer to the body. I recommend both the 6 speed crossmember and 6 speed mount.
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Similar "issue" in my Forester. I swapped in a JDM FSTi transmission and 2, 4, 6 gears put the shifter close to the console/edge of the shifter trim. I figured it was just a different setup/car/etc. I have no issues with the car staying in gear or getting it into gear.

FYI-I used my stock transmission crossmember (5speed) and a Cusco trans mount (which is universal for the 5 and 6 speeds).
You and the OP have ths shift linkage in upside down. Flip it around and the shifter will be more centered. The hump should go up.

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The transmission was in my Forester perfectly fine with no issues. We swapped everthing from my setup into his and vice versa. We swapped tranny, cross member, mount, rear diff, drive shaft, etc.

What do you mean the shift linkage is upside down? What do you guys recommend to fix the issue. Almost everyone that has seen the issue have no clue what the problem is.
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Old 02-10-2009, 02:59 PM   #23
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I had a similar problem on my conversion 04 sti into a legacy 98, but i had to turn the linkage upside down and it worked without modifications or cutting, welding... it's just perffect. I used all the parts that came with the sti. the only thing i had to combine it was the drive shaft and some fabrication on that was required.
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Can you guys provide a pic or something to go by with the turning the linkage upside down?
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Similar "issue" in my Forester. I swapped in a JDM FSTi transmission and 2, 4, 6 gears put the shifter close to the console/edge of the shifter trim. I figured it was just a different setup/car/etc. I have no issues with the car staying in gear or getting it into gear.

FYI-I used my stock transmission crossmember (5speed) and a Cusco trans mount (which is universal for the 5 and 6 speeds).
Same here except I used a stock 6 speed mount
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