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Old 03-05-2009, 12:16 PM   #1
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I am not sure how to define the problem, I noticed though that when I am parallel parking or turning at low speed that I can feel some sort of vibration/grinding through the steering wheel, it's like it isn't smooth for a few degrees of rotation and then when it goes past the point it's back to normal. But it's not consistent.

Any ideas how to troubleshoot this or what the cause could be. Power steering fluid is at level, the belt is in fairly good condition.

Could it be the p/s pump, pulley or bearings?
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Old 03-05-2009, 12:39 PM   #2
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could be belt slipping under load

or air in the system

or something mechanical in the rack / tie rods / suspension (try it with the engine off - jack up the front if necessary)
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Old 03-05-2009, 01:36 PM   #3
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should I jack up the car just slightly on one side to decrease the load?
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Old 03-06-2009, 12:34 AM   #4
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ok so I just messed around with it. The noise definitely comes from inside the steering block and it sounds like rubber grinding. I didn't jack the car but I tried with the engine off and it still happens. is it possible that something inside the block is rubbing? I haven't moved anything really. Maybe something needs to be lubed.
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Old 03-08-2009, 08:29 AM   #5
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steering block? what are piece are you talking about?
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Old 03-08-2009, 08:53 PM   #6
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well, I mean what's between the dashboard and the steering wheel
I am pretty sure the noise comes from there. isn't that called steering block?
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I would check the universal that connects the two steering shafts... you can find it by folling the metal shaft back up to the firewall from the steering rack...

I would also check any part related to the the rack. This includes, ball joints, tie rods, steering rack boots, steering rack bushings/mounts, wheel wells (make sure nothing is rubbing), etc...
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Old 03-08-2009, 10:46 PM   #8
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I would check the universal that connects the two steering shafts... you can find it by folling the metal shaft back up to the firewall from the steering rack...

I would also check any part related to the the rack. This includes, ball joints, tie rods, steering rack boots, steering rack bushings/mounts, wheel wells (make sure nothing is rubbing), etc...

are there any pictures of all this part or a DIY guide. I never really worked on steering related problems but I've done work on other parts already. Do I have to take the steering wheel off? will I be working from the inside then? or also under the hood?
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Old 02-01-2010, 04:17 PM   #9
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Did you ever fix this? I have the same problem and I replaced my worn tires thinking that was the issue but the problem still remains.
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First I think you need to rule out power steering issues. To listen for noises from turning the wheel have a buddy turn the wheel while you listen. A long screwdriver stuck to various parts with the grip against your ear aid hearing noise at specific points. Then check the power steering belt, tight, in good shape? Then start the engine and look into the power steering fluid reservoir. Have your friend turn the wheel back and forth. Any bubbes? If so, air is leaking into the system. You must find the leak and fix it then bleed all the air from the system. No bubbles, belt in good shape, tight? Then turn the engine off lift the car, securely support and then get under there for a good look.

The rack, lines, tie rods, CV joint boots, ball joints. Everything look good, no leaks, no torn boots.....look at all those power steering lines hooked to the rack....no leakes....? If so,, engine off, parking brake on, car securely supported.....have your buddy turn the wheel lock to lock while you have a look at things under the car. You should see the steering rod, see the rack working, the rods and tires moving. Anything binding? Can you pinpoint the noise? Those are the kinds of things I would do and then if you can't find anything.....listen some more. Any accessories that you have added like a boost gauge with wires rubbing under the dash on the steering. Is you wheel height adjustable? Move it to several locations and turn it. That is all I can think of at present. Air in the system makes the wheel shake and the pump groan.

Hopefully the OP resolved this......so what did you find OP? Hwy61
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Did you ever fix this? I have the same problem and I replaced my worn tires thinking that was the issue but the problem still remains.
Thanks,
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sorry guys, I haven't been on this for a while since I sold my car. I never actually found out what the problem was because the problem went away as soon as the temperature started rising. So this only happened when it was cold, I can't tell the threshold temperatures but I can say when it was warm around 40s it stopped. I still have no clue. maybe some grease losing its properties at cold temps?
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