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Old 03-06-2009, 07:27 PM   #1
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hey all im having some trouble trying to find a place preferablly a town house or apt because i have a pit . Was just curious if anyone knew of any all breed friendly apts or townhomes? Any help is much appreciated.. oh ya not really any restrictions as far as were in the valley just not B.F.E hehe
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hey all im having some trouble trying to find a place preferablly a town house or apt because i have a pit . Was just curious if anyone knew of any all breed friendly apts or townhomes? Any help is much appreciated.. oh ya not really any restrictions as far as were in the valley just not B.F.E hehe
My cousin has a place in Tempe that isn't breed restrictive... He has a 70lb Pit and a 150lb Rot... they don't care... he also registered the dogs by the breed name... have you tried that?
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Get a house mang, its a buyers market
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My cousin has a place in Tempe that isn't breed restrictive... He has a 70lb Pit and a 150lb Rot... they don't care... he also registered the dogs by the breed name... have you tried that?
ya most places are smart enough now that they know American staffordshire terrier is a pit bull. What is the name of the place ur cousin lives? And ya i would like to get a house but i terrible credit, and im actually in a house now but i live with three douchebags that i just cant stand living with anymore!
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Have you tried picking up one of those free apartment guides they have at grocery stores and convenience stores? They normally won't tell you the rent, but I don't think they'd have a problem telling you if they have pet/breed restrictions.
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ya most places are smart enough now that they know American staffordshire terrier is a pit bull. What is the name of the place ur cousin lives? And ya i would like to get a house but i terrible credit, and im actually in a house now but i live with three douchebags that i just cant stand living with anymore!
It is called Desert Palm Village
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Rent a house and not have to deal with it man. You can rent a house for cheaper than a lot of apartments anyway. I never had a problem in rental houses that I had, and now that I own I just have to make sure my homeowners insurance stand behind them.
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Find a place thats owned by a private individual.
They usually dont care about dog breeds, as long as your dog is frienly and well behaved.
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We had a similar problem when we first moved out here. We found a rental house that allowed dogs and put a deposit down. Everything was good to go until the landlady did some research about Akitas and canceled the contract.

Then, when I went to get renters insurance through AmFam my agent asked what kind of dog I had. I said "Akita" and she said, "you mean Husky mix." I was like "no, she is an Akita" and she said again "NO, you mean Husky mix ." I got the hint.

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i have a rental home in surprise if you want to rent and that is not to far
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We had a similar problem when we first moved out here. We found a rental house that allowed dogs and put a deposit down. Everything was good to go until the landlady did some research about Akitas and canceled the contract.

Then, when I went to get renters insurance through AmFam my agent asked what kind of dog I had. I said "Akita" and she said, "you mean Husky mix." I was like "no, she is an Akita" and she said again "NO, you mean Husky mix ." I got the hint.

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I wasn't aware that Akitas were a "problem" dog. Why is that?
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I wasn't aware that Akitas were a "problem" dog. Why is that?
they're not really "problem" dogs,

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Very strong and loyal dogs, but just like any large and strong dog, you can't let them become out of control or they will do whatever they want.

This is a dog that was original bred by shoguns, the "royalty" of Japan for

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Bred to hunt, guard, and herd, this swift, agile, unswervingly tenacious dog tracked large game and held it at bay until the royal hunters arrived to make the kill. The Akita's quarry included elk, antelope, boar, and the 800-pound Yezo bear.
Then they were bred with the Tosa for fighting.

Then there was an outbreak of rabies in which a lot of dogs were killed.

Then during WWII, the government in japan ordered that all akitas be killed, so owners released their dogs into the wild so that they may survive. It's that strong of a breed, it's one of the very few breeds of dogs I would own.

I always joke with my buddies that if you released chiwawas into the wild, hawks would come by and swoop them up in a second.

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As a guard dog, the Akita was unsurpassed in its keen senses of smell, sight, and hearing. By nature a quiet dog that barked only when threatened, the breed needed no training in its guard duties. As a herding dog, it fiercely protected livestock from savage predators in the mountainous terrain of Akita Prefecture.

During the late 1800s, the Akita breed suffered two major setbacks. First, the Akita was crossed with the Japanese fighting dog, the Tosa. This crossbreeding resulted in a dog of imposing size and aggression used extensively when dog fighting was a popular sport in Japan. Then, at the turn of the century, Japan had a fatal outbreak of rabies with more than 3000 cases reported. Dogs, both healthy and affected, were clubbed to death.

However, three events focused positive attention on the breed in the early 1900s.

First was the story of Hachi-Ko, one of the most revered Japanese Akitas of all time. He was born in 1923 and was owned by Professor Eizaburo Ueno of Tokyo. Professor Ueno lived near the Shibuya Train Station in a suburb of the city and commuted to work every day on the train. Hachi-Ko accompanied his master to and from the station each day.

On May 25, 1925, when the dog was 18 months old, he waited for his master's arrival on the four o'clock train. But he waited in vain; Professor Ueno had suffered a fatal stroke at work. Hachi-Ko continued to wait for his master's return. He traveled to and from the station each day for the next nine years. He allowed the professor's relatives to care for him, but he never gave up the vigil at the station for his master. His vigil became world renowned, and shortly after his death, a bronze statue was erected at the train station in his honor. Then, in 1931, The Akita was officially declared a Japanese Natural Monument. The Mayor of Odate City in the Akita Prefecture organized the Akita Inu Hozankai to preserve the original Akita as a national treasure through careful breeding.

The third positive event was the arrival of Helen Keller in Japan in 1937. She expressed a keen interest in the breed and was presented with the first two Akitas to enter the US. The first dog died at a young age, but the second became Keller's constant companion until his death in 1945.

However, just as the breed was stabilizing in its native land, World War II pushed the Akita to the brink of extinction. Early in the war the dogs suffered from lack of nutritious food. Then many were killed to be eaten by the starving populace, and their pelts were used as clothing. Finally, the government ordered all remaining dogs to be killed on sight to prevent the spread of disease. The only way concerned owners could save their beloved Akitas was to turn them loose in the most remote mountain areas. There the breed's hardiness and keen hunting instincts helped them survive the war years.

During the occupation years following the war, the breed began to thrive again. US servicemen fell in love with the Akita and smuggled many of them into the US when they returned.
Unfortunately with strong dogs, there's always a few bad apples that raise their dogs poorly or train them to be aggressive, which leads to an incidents that make people believe it's a "problem" breed. Chiwawawas attack people constantly, but they're too small to do any damage and if they did really screw someone up, you'd never hear about it on the news.
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dont they use akitas to hunt bears in japan or some big arse animal?

and i dont believe that "its how u raise them" excuse for pitbulls. they were bred to fight. infact they just had a study come out a few weeks ago placing them as having a 70% chance to attack their owners or something... well im not willing to take a 30% chance in proving them wrong. rotweilers were 2nd on the list.
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i know some pitbulls are used to hunt wild boars.. and i know some were used as protection for royalty back in the day. If anyone else is a pitbull lover check out WALLACE THE PITBULL.. he is a frisbee champion pitbull its pretty motivating
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dont they use akitas to hunt bears in japan or some big arse animal?

and i dont believe that "its how u raise them" excuse for pitbulls. they were bred to fight. infact they just had a study come out a few weeks ago placing them as having a 70% chance to attack their owners or something... well im not willing to take a 30% chance in proving them wrong. rotweilers were 2nd on the list.
Human aggression was actually bred out of the pitbull lines, I don't believe there is any other breed that such a thing was done.

The reason they did that is because when they were fighting the dogs, no matter how bad the dogs were going at it, the humans had to be able to step in when needed to.

If a pitbull is a true "purebred", then they carry not even a single gene of human aggression, or else they dog would've never been bred and the aggression dies with that dog.

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I wish everybody knew what kind of dog a pitbull really was.

The problem with the media is that they will always say it is a pitbull as long it looks somewhat like one. Nobody is gonna care if a news story reports "Chiwawawa Attacks Boy!!" even though it happens all the time. Same with golden retriever, people would just say, "Golden retriever? No way."

Alot of the dogs in these "attacks" are not purebred, or even have any pit in them at all.

If anyone has any doubts about purebred pitbulls, my buddies and I all have had pits for many years. I've also met a lot of people with pits and I expect every single one of them to meet the temperament guidelines. The only time I've been disappointed was when a dog was a mutt, at the same time I've come across half-pits that were excellent dogs as most of the half pits are.

The reason that pits and rots take the most flak is because of some of their owners and previous owners. Everybody thinks of rots and pits as "tough killer dogs" which led to people trying to use them as guard dogs and or mixing them to produce a "super tough killer dog".

Pits make terrible guard dogs because they love people so much that they might not attack someone if they came in the front door. (My dog does understand that when they tree climbers are on the wall from the neighbors yard, that they don't need to be coming into our yard.)

But pits are very keen to an impending attack. If you are walking your pit and some walks up they'll gladly greet them, if the person walks up and initiates negative contact, like they want to mug you, the pit will jump to defense. I've seen plenty of pits jump into the pool if we were in there being too rough and if someone started screaming "help help!"

Specifically for the rots, it's because the american bloodline is poor.

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This is why the overall quality of American bloodline dogs is very poor. The majority of strictly American dogs are no longer true Rottweilers. These dogs do not meet the Breed Standard, despite having American Championship titles. Many are oversized with very light eyes, pink mouths, missing teeth, wrinkly heads, unstable temperaments and NO working ability!!
I've met some pure german rots, ****ing amazing dogs. A family friend had one for years, one time the owner asked the dog to get the tv remote from a female friend that was using it and the dog did just that, with no previous training. I'm sure they said "remote" enough times that day, while passing back and forth and the dog picked up on it.

Most of the time when I meet other dogs, I appreciate the qualities of pits even more. If you decided that one day you were gonna hit your pitbull in the head when you come home everyday, it would still be there waiting for you at the front door, happy as ever could be just to see you.

They're not the absolute number one "loyal" dog, but if a pit could read your mind completely, they would jump in front of a moving bus for you, out of love.

It is still an animal, one that is the only breed known to have broken a human bone with it's bite. If you let a dog show dominance over you, then you will open yourself up to situations where someone could possibly get hurt.

My dog KNOWS that I am his master, unequivocally. If you let ANY animal dominate you, then they will do whatever they want. If you don't show authority over a child, chances are they will do whatever they want, including hurt their siblings or even their parents. Ever watch one of those shows where they have an "out of control child", and they're sitting there hitting their parents and the parents just sit there and take it?

If you guys wanna see what I expect a dog to behave like, I know where there are a few.














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Pit Bulls are very strong, agile dogs. "Determination" is a defining trait of terriers. Whatever they set out to do, they put their heart into it...whether escaping a fenced yard to chase a cat, or digging into your couch for buried treasure when left home alone, or playing fetch, or climbing into your lap and licking every inch of your face
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If you have kids then why risk it? Why would u put your kids at risk? When i was about 6 I was attacked by a pitbull. It bit my face and i still have the scars on my nose and eye lid. I dont even remember this until today. Do i hate dogs? nope, i love them. Ive grown up with them. Would i ever own a pit while having my 2 daughters? never... im not one to bet on my kids safety like that.

When u see a dog attack on the news, 90% of the time a pit is involved.. If your dog knows u are the master it wont mess with you. It wont think the same of your 5 year old or your Mom etc...

Dont get me wrong i do agree with people on how the dog reacts is related on how they were trained and all (my dads german shep was sent to the same school as the oakland police send their sheps for training. And thats a scary ass dog), but it doesnt matter when somethings in their blood.

"Dog fighting, which could be carried out under clandestine measures, blossomed. Since Bulldogs proved too ponderous and uninterested in dog fighting, the Bulldogs were crossed with English White and Black and Tan Terriers. They were also bred to be intelligent and level-headed during fights and remain non-aggressive toward their handlers. Part of the standard for organized dog-fighting required that the match referee who is unacquainted with the dog be able to enter the ring, pick up a dog while it was engaged in a fight, and get the respective owner to carry it out of the ring without being bitten. Dogs that bit the referee were culled.
As a result, Victorian fighting dogs (Staffordshire Bull Terriers and, though less commonly used as fighters, English Bull Terriers) generally had stable temperaments and were commonly kept in the home by the gambling men who owned them.
During the mid-1800s, immigration to the United States from Ireland and England brought an influx of these dogs to America, mainly to Boston, where they were bred to be larger and stockier, working as farm dogs in the West as much as fighting dogs in the cities. The resulting breed, also called the American Pit Bull Terrier, became known as an "all-American" dog."

sounds like there is no pure breed.. sounds like theyve been cross bred for a long ass time.
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How did I know this thread would eventually turn into some sort of breed bashing and stereotyping....

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its not stereo typing when its a proven fact. granted there are exceptions tho.

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How did I know this thread would eventually turn into some sort of breed bashing and stereotyping....

because someone said "pitbull", and the nightly news tells me I should be afraid of anything to do with pitbulls?

the nightly news also said that drinking too much orange juice gives you cancer...

p.s.- thanks for all the help on here with my rescue dog. she's become an awesome member of the family.
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because someone said "pitbull", and the nightly news tells me I should be afraid of anything to do with pitbulls?

the nightly news also said that drinking too much orange juice gives you cancer...

p.s.- thanks for all the help on here with my rescue dog. she's become an awesome member of the family.
Not a problem! I am glad that she worked out for you! They are truly an amazing and loyal breed. Some people just think that if the news says it or it says it on teh internetz it must be truth.
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loyal to their masters.... i.e. the one that feeds them. its seems like talking with a pitbull owner is like talking with an srt4 owner.. no matter how much proof someone has, theyre always right. until something bad happens.
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As much as I would love to waste the day away arguing with you I really do not have the time. Explaining to people that think pitbulls are killers is like explaing Jesus to a satanist. No matter how much proof (not what we read on the internet or what our sisters boyfriends mother in law twice removed told us) we can provide, they still run around spreading their uneducated advice on the breed. How many "pitbulls" have YOU owned? You do realize that a "pitbull" is one of the broadest terms in terriers, correct? So are you next going to say all terriers are bad? Actually, dont worry about answering because I dont feel like wasting my afternoon attempting to force any information into an unwilling source.
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owning a large breed dog is like owning a gun. training and precautions must be take to insure others safety.
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