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Old 03-12-2009, 10:49 PM   #1
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Default Anybody running bosch 044 intank?

I am trying to avoid running 2 walbro's in tank feeding my swirl pot. I am thinking about running a 044 in tank has anybody done this before? Is the 044 even made for in tank placement?
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Old 03-12-2009, 11:05 PM   #2
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i wanna know the same exact thing, cubuff how much hp are you looking to hit? i want a setup that will safely hold my 500ish whp q16 tune and 425pump tune. I was pretty sure it was a drop in fuel pump until i read a thread the other day that made it seem like a in line
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Old 03-12-2009, 11:41 PM   #3
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i wanna know the same exact thing, cubuff how much hp are you looking to hit? i want a setup that will safely hold my 500ish whp q16 tune and 425pump tune. I was pretty sure it was a drop in fuel pump until i read a thread the other day that made it seem like a in line

Well im going to run an intank setup either dual walbro's or something else into a swirl pot and from the swirl pot im going to run an a1000 to the rails. Im thinking my setup will be 650+whp.

I would really like to run the 044 intank and avoid running dual walbro's. I am also thinking a single walbro to the swril pot may be enough but I just want the added security in making sure the swirl pot is always full.

What I really want is a company to make an aftermarket fuel tank that is sumped so we could run inline pumps right off the fuel tank.
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Old 03-13-2009, 01:55 AM   #4
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The 044 is inline only, cant go in the tank. Im in the process of building a fuel system for someone, and I have found 2 pretty good options. A dual fuel pump hanger, and the TurboXS surge tank. Both are designed for a pair of Walbros.

I really like the idea of the surge tank, because you have the option of running dual pumps.
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Old 03-13-2009, 02:05 AM   #5
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The 044 is inline only, cant go in the tank. Im in the process of building a fuel system for someone, and I have found 2 pretty good options. A dual fuel pump hanger, and the TurboXS surge tank. Both are designed for a pair of Walbros.

I really like the idea of the surge tank, because you have the option of running dual pumps.
Is there a higher flowing pump that can go intank? I would just like something in the 300 range. I thought there was an intake version of the 044 maybe a 040??
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Old 03-13-2009, 02:55 AM   #6
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Is there a higher flowing pump that can go intank? I would just like something in the 300 range. I thought there was an intake version of the 044 maybe a 040??
There might be, but I cant think of anything off the top of my head. I think the Denso (stock Supra TT) would be the closest. I always use dual in tank for simplicity.
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Old 03-14-2009, 08:33 PM   #7
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These are inline fuel pumps, we recommend they be installed between the factory (or another aftermarket) in-tank fuel pump, and the fuel rail. These may be installed in the fuel tank, but some custom fabrication will usually be required.
1G DSM Guide to installing Bosch 044 intank
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Old 03-15-2009, 10:26 AM   #8
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I am trying to avoid running 2 walbro's in tank feeding my swirl pot. I am thinking about running a 044 in tank has anybody done this before? Is the 044 even made for in tank placement?


YOU ARE KILLING ME!!!

haha....


dude, if you are only feeding a swirl pot, in other words, zero backpressure or less than 5psi of pressure, even an almost stock pump could probably feed the swirl pot....


so, in that case....


a single 044 pump used intank or 93-98supra pump used intank would certainly feed the swirlie....
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Old 03-15-2009, 11:29 AM   #9
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i don't know why others are saying the 044 is inline only, b/c it's both

mine is intake and it keeps up with dual walbros...it's good for a lot of hp
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Old 03-15-2009, 01:24 PM   #10
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i don't know why others are saying the 044 is inline only, b/c it's both

mine is intake and it keeps up with dual walbros...it's good for a lot of hp
Its designed as an inline pump. It CAN fit in the tank, but its big and you it takes a bit of work to make it happen.
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Old 03-15-2009, 03:22 PM   #11
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I've used 044's in tank on a turbo NSX and many dsm guys use it in tank. It's basically needed when you don't want or need twin Walbro's. I'm in the process of putting one in(in tank) my dsm in order to run e85 with 1200cc injectors on a gt3561 with a 2.4l block etc.
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Old 03-16-2009, 02:55 PM   #12
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I've used 044's in tank on a turbo NSX and many dsm guys use it in tank. It's basically needed when you don't want or need twin Walbro's. I'm in the process of putting one in(in tank) my dsm in order to run e85 with 1200cc injectors on a gt3561 with a 2.4l block etc.
I am trying to decie between dual walbros or trying a 044... on 1250cc injetctors on e85 lol only its a gt3076....2.5l block I would like to try intank...hhhmmm
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I am trying to decie between dual walbros or trying a 044... on 1250cc injetctors on e85 lol only its a gt3076....2.5l block I would like to try intank...hhhmmm
Should work just fine for you. The Bosch is a bit noisy, but twin Walbro's aren't exactly quiet either.
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Old 03-17-2009, 05:43 AM   #14
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I run a 040 in tank on the std bracket and wiring its runing fuel up to a custom twin feed set up with Siemens S107 injectors, its probably a little louder than a walbro but I like Bosch and you certainly will know if it ever stops
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Old 03-17-2009, 10:00 AM   #15
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I run the 044 intank. was a very easy install with the correct fuel sock!

http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/pro...asp?RecId=5813

http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/pro...asp?RecID=5812
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Old 03-17-2009, 09:35 PM   #16
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Don't forget that the return fuel line feeds back into the swirl pot so it's actually feeding itself, minus what's being consumed by the engine. I just swapped in a stock in-tank fuel pump to feed my swirl pot. Seems to be working out just fine.
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Old 03-18-2009, 12:00 AM   #17
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Don't forget that the return fuel line feeds back into the swirl pot so it's actually feeding itself, minus what's being consumed by the engine. I just swapped in a stock in-tank fuel pump to feed my swirl pot. Seems to be working out just fine.

After thinking about it more I dont think there will be a need for a larger intank pump let alone dual walbros. With the return going to the pot I dont think it will ever be close to empty. I may put a level indicator in the swirl pot to make sure though.
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I run the 044 intank. was a very easy install with the correct fuel sock!

http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/pro...asp?RecId=5813

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Did you have to rewire it up??
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Bump for more info from sean18337. I am trying to decide if I should run mine in tank or inline.
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http://www.jayracing.com/index.php?m...products_id=62



that is what you need a intank sock for your 044
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Old 03-30-2009, 04:48 PM   #21
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that is what you need a intank sock for your 044
Looks perfect. Any writeups on the wiring and rigging it to the stock fuel pump hanger?
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Old 03-30-2009, 06:45 PM   #22
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i don't suppose it could be very hard. i am sure most people could do it with a cut off wheel and some butt connectors. knowing my brother he would do some tig welding and ss parts and solder all the connections. i know he already spoke of wanting to put twin 044 pumps in tank.
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Ok that thread confused me even more. I read in multiple places that people are running the 044 off a relay triggered by the stock fuel pump controller. That thread says it can't be done that way. I'm running a stock ECU.
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Yea any updates here ive got -id bosch 1000's to support at 80 psi lol
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