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Old 03-14-2009, 07:18 PM   #1
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Default EQ Tuning Stage 1 Shortblock + Blouch DOM 3.0R + 91 Octane + Meth = 384whp!

Last night we finalized the tune on our first EQ Built block

This is an 05 STI with the following:

EQ Tuning Stage 1 Shortblock
Stock STI heads/cams with 5 angle valve job
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EQ Tuning Custom Intake
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Custom Tune on 91 Octane

This tune was done at about 23psi peak. Here is the chart:



This thing was a lot of fun! It spools up hard an pulls very hard all the way to redline. The EQ Shortblock has about 2000 miles on it now and hasn't burned a drop of oil.

We have another couple blocks being broken in right now, so look for results soon

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Old 03-14-2009, 07:51 PM   #2
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This thing was a lot of fun! It spools up hard an pulls very hard all the way to redline. The EQ Shortblock has about 2000 miles on it now and hasn't burned a drop of oil.

should any block with only 2000 miles burn oil?
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Old 03-14-2009, 09:32 PM   #3
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built blocks tend to burn oil because getting the tolerances right with forged pistons is difficult.

If you want a ISO9000 certified company to build you a shortblock its very costly....IE Cosworth.

They have to meet certain tolerance standards for their machining processes and final tolerances....whereas a "normal" machine shop does not.

A regular machine shop may give you pistons and bores that are 100mm +-0.1 where as from cosworth you're gonna get +-0.0001
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Old 03-15-2009, 01:35 PM   #4
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should any block with only 2000 miles burn oil?
Built blocks often burn oil because of improperly set tolerances. We set and blueprint all tolerances and oil clearances to our strict specs in house.

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Old 03-15-2009, 02:34 PM   #5
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nice numbers looks like the car will be a lot of fun to drive.
thats good that you guys have stricter standards for setting tolerances, quality FTW
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Old 03-15-2009, 03:54 PM   #6
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great numbers
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Old 03-15-2009, 05:25 PM   #7
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Old 03-15-2009, 07:01 PM   #8
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EQ Tuning strikes again! Looking good, Ed! Those numbers are almost exactly what I did on my GT35! Except my meth refused to spray ... I'm real interested to see what those built motors with GT35s do on some 100 octane
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Old 03-16-2009, 10:58 AM   #9
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EQ Tuning strikes again! Looking good, Ed! Those numbers are almost exactly what I did on my GT35! Except my meth refused to spray ... I'm real interested to see what those built motors with GT35s do on some 100 octane
Yea... this isn't bad at all for pump gas on a DOM3.0R. Without meth these turbos never break ~325whp on my dyno. We could probably push the turbo a bit harder, but the car was already very quick. Remember these numbers on my dyno software equate to 120-121mph trap speeds... not bad at all

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Old 03-16-2009, 11:07 AM   #10
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What is EQ Flash?
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Old 03-16-2009, 12:36 PM   #11
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What is EQ Flash?
Its a tuning service we provide. Its similar to "OpenEcu" tuning, but we use a set of different tools/applications to tune and reflash the ECU.

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Old 03-16-2009, 12:37 PM   #12
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Remember these numbers on my dyno software equate to 120-121mph trap speeds... not bad at all

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Ed, if i send you a log will you make a power plot in your software??

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What is EQ Flash?
Since ed wrote his road dyno software, I'll assume that EQ Flash is something just like ECUflash that Ed made.
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Old 03-16-2009, 06:43 PM   #13
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Since ed wrote his road dyno software, I'll assume that EQ Flash is something just like ECUflash that Ed made.

Yes, I also think there may be a *bit* of suspicion in the Subaru community what exactly it is when a tuner goes and develops their own "custom tuning tools" as has happened some times.

I wanted to raise the point to some that Ed has substantial professional software development experience and a computer science degree from a top tier university, as well as extensive professional background in microcontroller implementations and mechatronics. I don't mean to put this background information as a contrast to other entities or anything like that, but merely want to point out that standalone ECUs, ECUtek/Cobb reflashes in the first place, professional dyno software (Mustang, DD, Dynojet) and other tuning implements were developed by people possessing Ed's type of practicing engineering background .

I think that as most of us on this forum are working professionals with areas of expertise ourselves, we can appreciate the subtle but significant difference that this kind of background makes in aftermarket automotive engineering.
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Old 03-16-2009, 07:01 PM   #14
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Looks great ED. If you want a real tune get it from this guy. I've spend some good time with him driving cars to be tuned and cannot believe the technical knowledge Ed knows about the computers and software.
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Old 03-16-2009, 07:06 PM   #15
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Old 03-16-2009, 08:32 PM   #16
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Its a tuning service we provide. Its similar to "OpenEcu" tuning, but we use a set of different tools/applications to tune and reflash the ECU.

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You use an application other than Ecuflash to flash the ROM? What other tools do you use? Software/Mechanical engineer here, I gots questions!
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Old 03-16-2009, 08:36 PM   #17
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Since ed wrote his road dyno software, I'll assume that EQ Flash is something just like ECUflash that Ed made.
Dyno and flashing software are very different. I'd be surprised if he developed something thats already supported by a totally free flashing application. It would be a lot of work with little functional gain to recreate Ecuflash. I'm betting he has some data analysis tools, which is still damned cool
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Old 03-17-2009, 01:28 AM   #18
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ECUflash is not just a flashing tool....its a tuning tool too and actually has more tuning functionality than romraider with the interpolation functions. You can literally extend the loads and make a whole new timing/fuel map in about 10 seconds.....

I use ecuflash to make changes to my ROMS more than i use romraider. I just use romraider to log mostly.

EQ Flash is probably an all in one tuner, flasher, logger and viewer. Of course im probably wrong....i guess i should just wait for ed to answer.
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Old 03-17-2009, 02:05 AM   #19
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super clean power band!
Looks like you've been keeping busy Ed-
Seems like every other day there's a nice suby that's been massaged--
keep up the good work
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Ha i was just thinking about making a thread about this.(My Car)^^^^....anyways cant say enough good things about ed and his crew. ed really put in the extra time and made sure to work all the bugs out. The end result is a very well built motor that really screams. It really hasnt burned a drop of oil, but i go through the meth quite quickly

I would highly reccommend EQ tuning to anyone looking for a built motor or awsome tune!
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ECUflash is not just a flashing tool....its a tuning tool too and actually has more tuning functionality than romraider with the interpolation functions. You can literally extend the loads and make a whole new timing/fuel map in about 10 seconds.....

I use ecuflash to make changes to my ROMS more than i use romraider. I just use romraider to log mostly.

EQ Flash is probably an all in one tuner, flasher, logger and viewer. Of course im probably wrong....i guess i should just wait for ed to answer.
I'm probably the last person you need to inform when ROM software feature sets In fact, from what I can tell, Ecuflash has even less interpolation capabilities than my hobby ROM editing program. Romraider has/had interpolation code in place ready to go. I gave up on trying to budge people there to help with the rats nest GUI code (at least it was that way when I tinkered over there).

Given OPs a known good tuner, hes probably too busy to code editors, flashers, loggers. I bet he's written a set of programs to ingest csv files to do magic for him. Lots to do with analysis. He probably won't divulge the nitty gritty details, I just think its cool other engineers are turning their skills to support their true passions.

I bet $1 I'm right You pay shipping on the pennies if I'm wrong.
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Congratulations on the first EQ built block! I hope the EQ team is doing well.

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Subscribing just for the tool talk.

<== Been pondering writing the 4th (5th?) Subaru ROM editor.
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^^ Just join TGUI and work on his. It has the potential to be great, just needs at least all the same features of ECUFlash and RomRaider added - a lot more work :P

It'd be great if TGUI could reverse engineer the read/write capability of ECUFlash and add it to his editor (or maybe pinch the older code from the google projects page for ecuexplorer ) - then add logging capability and there will be nothing else that comes close

Great results btw :P
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^^ Just join TGUI and work on his. It has the potential to be great, just needs at least all the same features of ECUFlash and RomRaider added - a lot more work :P

It'd be great if TGUI could reverse engineer the read/write capability of ECUFlash and add it to his editor (or maybe pinch the older code from the google projects page for ecuexplorer ) - then add logging capability and there will be nothing else that comes close

Great results btw :P
Well, my logger is running in command line mode As far as flashing code, I'm more interested in real time maps If the guy two (^^) up really wants to help the community, he should hop over to RomRaider and help pickup the realtime map functionality.
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