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Old 03-18-2009, 05:24 AM   #1
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Default Want to buy an STI and trade in my WRX...any advice?

So, I really want to trade in/sell my 04 WRX and just get an older STI (04-05 is more my price range).

What's a good price for an STI from a dealership? From private party? This is all subjective. Anyone got any good ideas on dealerships?

Any random advice?
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Old 03-18-2009, 09:56 AM   #2
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From what I've seen this is the best route to go:
Part out any aftermarket parts off of your car and return it back to as stock as possible (there's pocketed cash)
Go start looking at dealerships for decent ones and ask them what they'll give you on trade (people here have reported dealerships giving them above kbb value on tradeins)
If your local dealerships won't give you a decent deal then start focusing more on NASIOC / Craigslist for the sale / purchase.

And if you can afford it, you'll probably want a 05 STi rather than a 04.

04's have been going for 15k-18kish depending on quality / miles
05's are normally 1k-5k more.
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Old 03-18-2009, 12:01 PM   #3
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I'm selling my java black 2004 STI...if you're interested let me know! Good luck selling your WRX
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Old 03-18-2009, 01:39 PM   #4
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04's have been going for 15k-18kish depending on quality / miles
05's are normally 1k-5k more.
I'd love to see a quality '04 with good miles going in the 15k-18k mile range. Are you talking about ones with rebuilt titles?

To the OP, don't forget Autotrader.
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Old 03-18-2009, 02:36 PM   #5
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I'd love to see a quality '04 with good miles going in the 15k-18k mile range. Are you talking about ones with rebuilt titles?

To the OP, don't forget Autotrader.
I was talking about dollars not miles.
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Old 03-18-2009, 02:37 PM   #6
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I'd love to see a quality '04 with good miles going in the 15k-18k mile range. Are you talking about ones with rebuilt titles?

To the OP, don't forget Autotrader.
check out the private car for sale section. there's plenty that are up for 17-18k and could be had for much less. Cars aren't moving right now and some sellers are getting desperate
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Old 03-18-2009, 02:39 PM   #7
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My advice would be, don't trade in your car. The dealer will usually always try to screw you on it. Yes, I read the post about dealerships giving people over KBB, but I am skeptical really. Best thing is to do a private sale, and then pocket the cash for a down payment.
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Old 03-18-2009, 02:40 PM   #8
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check out the private car for sale section. there's plenty that are up for 17-18k and could be had for much less. Cars aren't moving right now and some sellers are getting desperate
I second that. I just picked up an 05 STi at a steal of a price! (knock on wood)
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Old 03-18-2009, 03:14 PM   #9
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STIs seem to go for cheaper in Oregon than WA, check that out too
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Old 03-18-2009, 03:45 PM   #10
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keep in mind that if you trade your current car in at a dealer for an STI the trade-in value gets deducted from the purchase price of the STI, which in turn reduces your tax liability on the purcashe. So, say they give you $10k for the wrx, that removes over $900 of taxes you'd owe on the STI.

good luck
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Old 03-18-2009, 07:58 PM   #11
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STIs seem to go for cheaper in Oregon than WA, check that out too
Do a blue book value and get them to value your car.
Offer them 2-3G's less than their price if higher than blue book.
That means you have to do some work before you buy. Get the car info and miles, blue book it and offer 2g's less. make sure you have the book on yours before though. wholesale wholesale or book book when buying used.
They will always take the deal if credit is good. Just be sure before you finance with them you have a quote form a bank like BECU etc.
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Old 03-18-2009, 08:25 PM   #12
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FACT: 2005 STi and newer are much better cars than the 2004 STi
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Old 03-18-2009, 10:25 PM   #13
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FACT: 2005 STi and newer are much better cars than the 2004 STi
not trying to be rude, but what is your basis for this statement?
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Old 03-18-2009, 11:23 PM   #14
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I bet because he has an 05.But I do like the interiore 0f the 05 STi versus the 04.


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Old 03-18-2009, 11:33 PM   #15
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although I'm not him, i would speculate a his logic behind 05's being better, is because 05's and newer share a larger wheel hub bearings 5x114 instead of 5x110 that WRX's use.. other then that pretty sure the drive trains are the same.
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Old 03-18-2009, 11:46 PM   #16
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This is from a link that Unabomber posted (taken from IWSTI forum - 04 and 05 STI differences)

* larger wheel hubs and bearings
* larger wheel bolt circle diameter (from 5x100 in 2004 to 5x114.3 in 2005)
* 17x8 wheels (17x7.5 in 2004)
* 1 inch wider rear track
* revised power steering rack
* power steering fluid cooler
* stiffer steering rack mounts
* 3-point rear suspension crossmember
* aluminum rear suspension lateral links
* helical limited-slip front differential (Suretrac LSD in 2004)
* revised DCCD system
* new Yaw sensor for DCCD (part of the lateral G sensor)
* revised ABS controller
* optional short shift kit

That's just the performance aspect
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Old 03-19-2009, 12:22 AM   #17
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My brother is trying to sell his 05 STI and possibly get a wrx, a trade for your car plus cash would help him out. You have pics of your wrx?

Here's his sti
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1719403

Let me know
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Old 03-19-2009, 12:29 AM   #18
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dealers are way expensive.
i bought my 04STi for $25k and it had 35k miles on it...
and tax and stuff, i think a private seller would be cheaper!
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Old 03-19-2009, 12:52 AM   #19
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^^

agreed... going thru dealers usually sucks, I was able to pick mine up for about the same amount as ericababyy with 20k miles If you're willing to be patient and shop around there's deals to be had
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Old 03-19-2009, 10:38 AM   #20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chron View Post
This is from a link that Unabomber posted (taken from IWSTI forum - 04 and 05 STI differences)

* larger wheel hubs and bearings
* larger wheel bolt circle diameter (from 5x100 in 2004 to 5x114.3 in 2005)
* 17x8 wheels (17x7.5 in 2004)
* 1 inch wider rear track
* revised power steering rack
* power steering fluid cooler
* stiffer steering rack mounts
* 3-point rear suspension crossmember
* aluminum rear suspension lateral links
* helical limited-slip front differential (Suretrac LSD in 2004)
* revised DCCD system
* new Yaw sensor for DCCD (part of the lateral G sensor)
* revised ABS controller
* optional short shift kit

That's just the performance aspect
dangit.

oh well, im happy with my 04. Guess its all on how you drive.
picked mine up 2 yrs ago with 17k, flawless for 26k from dealer.
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Old 03-19-2009, 05:46 PM   #21
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I traded mine (04 wrx) in at puyallup subaru on my 05 sti. they gave me a good bit over kbb on it. If it helps any there is a older guy named Jon who is a salesman there who has hooked me up on 3 cars. You could go talk to him.
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