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Old 03-22-2009, 07:01 PM   #1
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So I just had my car dynoed by CAMtuning (he did a fantastic job). It is an 06 WRX TR with a Deadbolt TD05 7cm 18G, invidia catless DP and magnaflow cat back. She put down 310/350 after all said and done. Now I can smell clutch decent when I rip on it from a slow roll. I am bummed that I will be needing a new clutch soon, but watcha gonna do right? So what clutches are you guys running and what are the pros and cons to them. This car is my DD so I don't want anything to harsh as the wife drives it too.
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Old 03-22-2009, 07:40 PM   #2
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I am running a stock STi clutch on my 6mt swap with 350whp/365wtq with no issues yet (8k or so on it so far)
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Old 03-22-2009, 08:48 PM   #3
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I'm running a Exedy Twin Plate, and my wife drives my STI. With your HP you should look into Single Disc Clutchs like;


- Exedy Hyper Single Clutch Kit, The EXEDY HYPER SINGLE CLUTCH is a new generation clutch set for light to moderately tuned vehicles up to 400 HP. The EXEDY Hyper Single Clutch is ideal for limited street driving and road circuit car...

-Carbonetic Single Carbon Clutch, Carbonetics Single Carbon Clutch is designed for high HP, Application. Perfect for Drag Racing and Road Racing, as the clutch will work better the harder you drive it.
However Unlike many other clutches, Carbonet clutches are very street able and driver friendly.


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Old 03-22-2009, 10:08 PM   #4
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I would like to spend ~$600 but i also want to do it right you know. How are the ACT clutches? I'm looking at what they call a stage 2. I really wish they would say what kind of power they will hold. I'm sure anything over the stock clutch is better than what I have. I'm also amazed at the fact the stock clutch is not holding the power I'm making. it only has 35,000 miles on it, and 26,000 of those were really easy miles. Keep the replies coming.

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Old 03-22-2009, 11:08 PM   #5
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they cant say how much the power it will hold because of peoples different driving styles (some people can drive, some people cant), so it may vary. Kinda like how when u read the talk/stand by time of cell phone batteries it will always say "UP TO" xx hours of stand by. $600 installed or $600 for parts. Figure that the job usually will cost around 5-6 hours of labor. Most performance shops can do it a lot cheaper then a dealership charges. good luck
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Old 03-23-2009, 01:51 AM   #6
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Oh isht. Are you on a stock 5mt? If so I would say no more than a stage 1 clutch, which is really just another OEM. AFAIK there are quite a few people that have broken gears on any more aggressive of a clutch on the 5mt. A lot of it is driving style, but a clutch that doesnt wanna slip plays a part.
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Old 03-23-2009, 02:14 AM   #7
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^^ ive seen it happen.. people put in an aftermarket clutch causing them to drive the vehicle harder, then BANG boom PING.... they hear that metalic rattle. bye bye gears... bye bye. then it was "sorry sir, ur gonna need to pay me about $3500 to fix that"
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Old 03-23-2009, 03:12 AM   #8
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call fat 602 616 7001 they will take care of you and there is always the unbeatable 6 speed.
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There was a shop going out of a business about a month ago that had an ACT 6 puck unsprung clutch for reallllly cheap. I'll get ahold of my friend to see if they still have it. rather aggressive clutch, yes. and a tad of over kill, but if it's cheap....
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Old 03-23-2009, 08:58 AM   #10
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isn't there some issue with act clutch being pull type rather than push... which is not as good?
i have an act in my car and it held up to the abuse good...
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Old 03-23-2009, 11:11 AM   #11
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they cant say how much the power it will hold because of peoples different driving styles (some people can drive, some people cant), so it may vary. Kinda like how when u read the talk/stand by time of cell phone batteries it will always say "UP TO" xx hours of stand by. $600 installed or $600 for parts. Figure that the job usually will cost around 5-6 hours of labor. Most performance shops can do it a lot cheaper then a dealership charges. good luck
I have the knowledge and tools to install a clutch so labor is not a factor here. I see what you mean by different driving styles and what not, I just wish they could give youa an answer.

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Oh isht. Are you on a stock 5mt? If so I would say no more than a stage 1 clutch, which is really just another OEM. AFAIK there are quite a few people that have broken gears on any more aggressive of a clutch on the 5mt. A lot of it is driving style, but a clutch that doesnt wanna slip plays a part.
Ya I'm on a stock 5MT still . I don't drive the car that hard. I shift pretty granny like, I'm not out to set the world on fire with this car. I will be doing PPG gears when mine go, which I'm sure they will. What is AFAIK? I think maybe a stock friction disk or a slightly grippier one with a stout pressure plate would do the trick. What do you think?
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Old 03-23-2009, 02:01 PM   #12
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There was a shop going out of a business about a month ago that had an ACT 6 puck unsprung clutch for reallllly cheap. I'll get ahold of my friend to see if they still have it. rather aggressive clutch, yes. and a tad of over kill, but if it's cheap....
a 6 puck?? holy eklhrbsrjbfvksbdlivbdtwillblowyourtrannyandhiswife drivesitshellblowhistrannyandhavetoblowhimeveryday tomakeupforit.
not for a stock wrx tranny. STi clutch is just fine.
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Old 03-23-2009, 03:37 PM   #13
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Since you have an 06, and it is a push style instead of a pull style like the 02-05 WRX and the STi. Seriously, get a stage 1 full face disc. I really don't think that you need a clutch though. Look at copmagnet1 on my forums. His car made 405/480 on the same dyno and he's on the stock clutch. It slips sometimes, but it's holding together pretty well.
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Old 03-23-2009, 05:32 PM   #14
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a 6 puck?? holy eklhrbsrjbfvksbdlivbdtwillblowyourtrannyandhiswife drivesitshellblowhistrannyandhavetoblowhimeveryday tomakeupforit.
not for a stock wrx tranny. STi clutch is just fine.

i thought the STi clutch does NOT fit on the wrx tranny.

i might be wrong but not likely
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i thought the STi clutch does NOT fit on the wrx tranny.

i might be wrong but not likely
i put an sti clutch on a wrx tranny. got a new flywheel with it as well, if that matters
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Old 03-23-2009, 05:43 PM   #16
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stock for stock it wont fit so you might have gotten taken there. now u can make it fit with some modifications, but i dont think thats what you did. are u sure you got a STi clutch and flywheel (6mt) or did you get a 5mt clutch and flywheel thats made by spt or sti whatever therer calling their aftermarket company.
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Old 03-23-2009, 07:10 PM   #17
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Since you have an 06, and it is a push style instead of a pull style like the 02-05 WRX and the STi. Seriously, get a stage 1 full face disc. I really don't think that you need a clutch though. Look at copmagnet1 on my forums. His car made 405/480 on the same dyno and he's on the stock clutch. It slips sometimes, but it's holding together pretty well.
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ok cool i will probably wait for a while being that it only slips under pretty hard use. I just figured once it started slipping it would not quite, and just get worse and worse. I'll keep testing it
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a 6 puck?? holy eklhrbsrjbfvksbdlivbdtwillblowyourtrannyandhiswife drivesitshellblowhistrannyandhavetoblowhimeveryday tomakeupforit.
not for a stock wrx tranny. STi clutch is just fine.
haha I was just throwing that out there because it was dirt cheap. like 150-200 dollars cheap. But it's no-longer available so forget I mentioned it.
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Old 03-27-2009, 06:28 AM   #19
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I would like to spend ~$600 but i also want to do it right you know. How are the ACT clutches? I'm looking at what they call a stage 2. I really wish they would say what kind of power they will hold. I'm sure anything over the stock clutch is better than what I have. I'm also amazed at the fact the stock clutch is not holding the power I'm making. it only has 35,000 miles on it, and 26,000 of those were really easy miles. Keep the replies coming.

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RPS ftw.... slightly stiffer over stock.. easy on the leg and hold over 400whp

I had ACT... Glad to have got ride of it. Matter fact.. I pretty much gave it all away.

Racingfish is right on the clutch = boom on gears.. I have seen that happen too...

You need to save for some gears or 6spd if your going to run a "ricer clutch" or move up the hp ladder.
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Old 03-27-2009, 06:31 AM   #20
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There was a shop going out of a business about a month ago that had an ACT 6 puck unsprung clutch for reallllly cheap. I'll get ahold of my friend to see if they still have it. rather aggressive clutch, yes. and a tad of over kill, but if it's cheap....
Cheap? Not when you kill a gear box or have to pull it out later.


Save the cash do it right the 1st time. I installed the ACT 6 puck sprung and hated the on/off clutch engament.. That clutch went in with the new motor. So it was no labor to install it. When I put the dog box in, I had to upgrade to the 6spd anyways.. The 6 puck had less then 4k miles and was already wornout.

Stay away from ACT with stock 5spd gears... Bad all the way around.
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Didnt like my Act clutch either. my excedy twin is so much nicer as far as pedal feel and engagement. i have ra gears and havent had any issues with aftermarket clutches.

With your power levels, i'd try an aftermarket stg 1 as mentioned.
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I am looking at a Clutch master stage 1 and an Exedy stage one. I'm sure either one is fine. I'm going to the track tomorrow (sat) we'll see how it holds up. I don't plan on beating the clutch up to bad. Thanks everyone for the input I appreciate it.
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I can't stand the feel of an ACT on a WRX. They have really low engagemnet. FWIW I blew through an RPS street disc in about 7,000 miles. I've been really happy with the Exedy stage 2. I've had it for quite some time and have quite a few hard launches on it.
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I am looking at a Clutch master stage 1 and an Exedy stage one. I'm sure either one is fine. I'm going to the track tomorrow (sat) we'll see how it holds up. I don't plan on beating the clutch up to bad. Thanks everyone for the input I appreciate it.
Well it held up just fine, it did not slip hardly nor blow up, haha. I put one really good launch on it I cut a 1.74 60' and ran a 13.2 at 101.

Brocksdad can you still drive the stage 2 daily or is it to much for DD?
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Just remember if you cant afford to do the gearbox swap. Get a clutch that will slip before the gears break. Its cheaper to swap a clutch then a blown trannny. I used to use the clutch to help soak up the shock load. Which kept my 5 spd around for a very long time. Matter a fact the new owner still uses it.
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