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Old 03-23-2009, 06:44 PM   #1
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Well its finally almost here, I'm getting tuned at Agile Auto in MD this saturday and was curious what you guys think ill net on their dynapak hub dyno. Take a guess hp/tq and ill update with my actual numbers. On to my modifications:

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**Update: see post #38 for hp/tq numbers**
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Old 03-23-2009, 06:57 PM   #2
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I made 318whp and 345wtq with a catted helix/walbro/spt sri...


good luck!! the car is a complete animal now!!




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Old 03-23-2009, 07:40 PM   #3
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lol guess that pretty much kills guessing. Oh well, good numbers i should be right around there!
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Old 03-23-2009, 07:53 PM   #4
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lol guess that pretty much kills guessing. Oh well, good numbers i should be right around there!
get it tuned then we'll meet up at Pittsburgh Raceway Park and we'll see how your numbers translate in terms of trap speed.

btw you're gonna love your tune... Hill is the man. good luck.
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Old 03-23-2009, 09:00 PM   #5
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agile's dyno reads just a tad high
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Old 03-23-2009, 09:56 PM   #6
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Hub dynos usually read a bit high. I'm not sure how Agile's is calibrated either. I made 313whp and 333ft/lb on a Dyno dynamics with a catless TBE, large maf intake and a 3port solenoid

i would guess around 315-330whp

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Old 03-23-2009, 10:01 PM   #7
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ive gone to Pittsburgh Raceway park several times, ill see ya there. Trap speed is definately what I'm more interested in. Anyone know how much higher hub dynos are compared to others? I just like the design, how they are more consistant for tuning.
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Old 03-23-2009, 10:18 PM   #8
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I'd sell your exhaust before the protune and buy a non-catted exhaust. Regarless, you'll be happy with the car no matter. It gets really fun when you turn these cars up, they move for such a baby turbo.
I know of the endless horror stories of motor failures, but even missing my RAW 04, the 07 STi IMHO is the best STi made to date!

Good luck on your numbers and enjoy the car

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Old 03-23-2009, 10:29 PM   #9
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Good luck with your numbers, will definetly be fun when Hill gets done tuning, trust me. As far as "dyno being a tad high" I would not worry I imagine it will be close to right on !!
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Old 03-24-2009, 08:25 AM   #10
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Mikey - I'm probably only leaving a few hp on the table with a high flow cat. Are you stock turbo btw so i can compare my track times?
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Old 03-24-2009, 10:17 AM   #11
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sti mikey is still on the vf43.

and no, agile's dyno does read high

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Old 03-24-2009, 12:02 PM   #12
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Mikey - I'm probably only leaving a few hp on the table with a high flow cat. Are you stock turbo btw so i can compare my track times?
Yeah, Im still on the stocker. Its a vf43 but really no different from the 48 nhat stated.
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Old 03-24-2009, 03:43 PM   #13
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Uhhhh, yeah they do read high. But the real thing to focus on is how much better the car feels. Dyno numbers are just numbers. Who cares if your car reads 300+ at their shop and 270 anywhere else. Just enjoy the car for the before tune and after tune differences.

If you want to really know the difference, get it protuned there and then go and get your car baseline dyno'd some place else on a dynojet or mustang.
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Old 03-24-2009, 07:31 PM   #14
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so what if the dyno reads high? what matters is the gain before and after, like louie said. mine baselined really low, something like 275/275, so you be the judge...
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Old 03-24-2009, 07:38 PM   #15
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does anyone know how agiles dyno compares to say ams of gaithersburg. i got tuned at ams with similar mods and made 318whp and 392 wtq on i think a dyno jet. numbers seemed pretty high to me but i wasnt sure if that was normal or what.
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Old 03-24-2009, 07:48 PM   #16
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taken from this thread: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...ight=agile+sti

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I got tuned once but i had many mechanical problems to be fixed the first time including a bad MAF so i went back and then i got retuned at the best shop in the world, Agile Auto, i ended up with 345 AWHP and 350 lbs. of Tq.

Mods include:
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-Fuel Pump
-Boost solenoid.

My tuner said its the best tq he has seen on stock turbo so im pretty happy. =) Props to Agile who fixed everything and has been really good to me, i will recommend them to anyone trying to do any mod.
mod for mod, your cars are pretty much the same except for the injectors. for reference, it's been said that a stock sti will put down anywhere from 240-250whp. numbers don't mean anything, but agile's dyno DOES read high
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Old 03-24-2009, 10:13 PM   #17
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Yes, everyone knows Agile's dyno is a bit generous. My heatsoaked vf43 wrx made 304 whp in 100+ degree shop temps. Thats why I'm sayin the true tale of the tape is in trap speed. I trapped 107 after my tune and am hoping for around 110 with my RA's.

Regardless what numbers you end up with, you're paying for the tune and you won't find a better tuner. Enjoy.
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Old 03-25-2009, 05:51 PM   #18
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^^I definatly agree there!
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Does Agiles dyno read high?
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Old 03-26-2009, 02:27 AM   #20
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Naw....people only say that cause they get butt hurt when they're lower numbers don't stack up

That being said, as everyone who has a brain in they're skull knows...its just a frikken number. I gained 40+hp and 60+trq from my baseline numbers to my current stage 2 protune
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Naw....people only say that cause they get butt hurt when they're lower numbers don't stack up

That being said, as everyone who has a brain in they're skull knows...its just a frikken number. I gained 40+hp and 60+trq from my baseline numbers to my current stage 2 protune

I stopped quoting my Agile numbers when my car couldn't trap 300+whp times

I'll quote my IAG numbers because it now traps consistant 300+whp times.
I am not bashing or promoting any tuner or dyno, although I do have a basis of comparison (being that I've been protuned by both).

It is just a number, but you have to have something to scale the improvments and modifications done to your car. The problem is that people wont pony up $100 to get a base line dyno before they start modifying their cars. I know that every dyno reads different, you would have some consistancy to say "My car dyno'd at 240whp stock on Agiles Dyno, then. It now dyno's 320whp." This would at least give you a control to compare your gains too. They typical post is more along the lines of "Oh wow I dyno'd 330whp".

The sad reality is that its just a number. As long as Hills customers walk away with a better car than when they arrived, it was worth while.
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Old 03-26-2009, 08:03 PM   #22
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true true. i think as long as you put "tuned by Agile" next to the numbers, people understand its high. Im only tuned at 18psi on a street tune at the moment, i think I'll definitely walk away with a better car, and a better piece of mind.
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Old 03-26-2009, 10:42 PM   #23
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Well its finally almost here, I'm getting tuned at Agile Auto in MD this saturday and was curious what you guys think ill net on their dynapak hub dyno. Take a guess hp/tq and ill update with my actual numbers. On to my modifications:

-Cobb APv2
-Cobb catted dp/SPT catback
-650cc injectors
-walbro fp
-ssac fmic
-sr intake
-prodrive boost solenoid
-ngk 1step colder plugs
here is my graph from Agile
i had similar mods to yours good luck Saturday
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here is my graph from Agile
i had similar mods to yours good luck Saturday
Lets see those trap speeds with your 320whp cars!!!!
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Lets see those trap speeds with your 320whp cars!!!!
what does that have to do with the OP? He is asking what his car would do on Agiles dyno. i have similar mods and posted up my graph so he can have a idea on what to expect.im not really worried what my trap speed would be. the change from cobbs stage 2 to Agiles tune is awesome. the car feels strong fast and just a diffrent car in general. Im happy with the tune and i think thats what matters the most.
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