AZ Teaching Positions

igotskraped · 03-23-2009, 08:18 PM

So...the fiancee and I were out in Anthem back in January visiting her parental units for a weekend. We go every year and every year we make the same decision that eventually we are moving out there. She's currently a Kindergarten teacher but after this year, she's done. Her district eliminated a boatload of positions (around 400-500 and most of them happened to be 1st-3rd year teachers AKA her). Now, we've got nothing holding us back from leaving. There's no better time than this summer. Our son is due in June but if we can find jobs out there, we're leaving IL.

Only problem is that after talking to a few of her parents neighbors out there, we've been told that there pretty much is no job market out there at this point.

Anybody here a teacher or have any leads or other information on the AZ job market in general? We're open to areas but leaning more towards southern AZ. Thanks in advance for any advice/suggestions/help/whatever.

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fibuz · 03-23-2009, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by igotskraped

Anybody here a teacher or have any leads or other information on the AZ job market in general? We're open to areas but leaning more towards southern AZ. Thanks in advance for any advice/suggestions/help/whatever.

I've got a few teachers in the family - sounds like they're all scared about potential layoffs, so I'd say it's tough for now. Eventually, like the rest of the job market, teaching jobs will come back. Just pick a place where you want to live and can find work, she'll find something eventually.

furryfootstool · 03-23-2009, 08:32 PM

a friend of mines wife was offered a teaching position a while back at a school out in queen creek. its the mountain vista school. i believe they were hiring not too long ago. not sure about anymore details, she is in labor right now and almost inaccessable

igotskraped · 03-23-2009, 08:32 PM

Thanks. Unfortunately, literally EVERY district in our immediate area is laying off all 1st-3rd year teachers. What they're doing is eliminating all sorts of misc administrative, nursing, librarians, social worker, etc positions. All those people are tenured so they fire all the non-tenured people and place those tenured in their positions. She signed her pink slip last week and the next day found out about the other districts layoffs as well.

kpluiten · 03-23-2009, 08:50 PM

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The job market is still relatively strong here in Arizona. Everyone loves to bitch about how crappy everything is, but in reality, not many of them have experience out side AZ, so they don't know how bad it can be. We're in a slow down like everyone else, but we're still doing MUCH better than other states.

On another note, am I the only one who finds it rediculous that grade school teachers now have tenure? Tenure for the most part is bull**** and only serves to allow the stagnation of thought and progress in many cases. The laziest, most difficult professors I ever worked with were tenured. I mean in all seriousness, how hard would you really work if you knew you couldn't be fired for anything besides touching a kid. There was a professor at the UofA that took his entire english lit class up to Mt. Lemmon in Tucson during class time to smoke pot with him and he didn't get more than a verbal reprimand. Tenure is somewhat akin to the UAW.

igotskraped · 03-23-2009, 09:16 PM

^ Agreed. It's absolutely ridiculous. They're putting 10-20-30 year "teachers" in a position they haven't taught in ages, if ever. It looks good on paper to the school board but as a parent, how would you feel if your 6 year old was being taught the basic essentials of school by someone that has been a social worker for so many years? I'd be furious but as usual, there's nothing anybody can do about it. They apparently have a "recall" list if there are any open positions after those that are tenured pick their new position. F'ing absurd.

brocksuncle · 03-23-2009, 09:48 PM

My lady is looking for a teaching job as well. We are thinking about the Queen Creek area. From my latest research, it seems to be the new and upcoming city. Are there any car meets out that way? I would need to make friends quick before I turn into an alky.

v8eaterWRX · 03-23-2009, 10:23 PM

There are a few of us in Queen Creek and a fairly large meet every thursday. Plus you could be living close to a Brock and a brocksdad

kpluiten · 03-23-2009, 10:40 PM

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I don't know about that... Queen Creek is definately new, but I'm not so sure about up and coming. It has been hit VERY hard by the housing bubble collapse and is currently suffering from extremely high forecloser and abandonment rates. The dwindling tax base and recent spending on infrustructure has left the city pretty broke. Basically, its a very new city that has grown far too fast for the goverment to keep up. It's still run by a bunch of farmers and good ol boys who are opposed to the growth and change that a quickly growing city needs.

All in all, it's not so bad I suppose, but its having some serious growing pains and it will take a while for things to get sorted out. Gilbert, Phoenix, Chandler and Tempe are still much better places to live in my opinion, but then again, property is much more expensive too.

06AZForesterXt · 03-24-2009, 01:50 AM

My wife is a teacher in the Higley district and they are in the same boat as you. As of now 1st year teachers don't have a job and if that doesn't make the budget 2nd, 3rd.... you get the point. I too live in Queen Creek and a few miles south of me there is a new High School going up. Maybe check the Florence District. Good luck.

KP · 03-24-2009, 04:32 AM

I think the Tempe Union district for highschool is hiring, and try the Kyrene for K-8

igotskraped · 03-24-2009, 07:18 AM

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Thanks for all the advice. I'm sure you're all thinking, "Great! More Midwesterners. Just what we need!

" but IL just ain't cuttin' it no mo'!

crashzilla00 · 03-24-2009, 10:40 AM

There are 3 new schools that I know of in Queen Creek set to open this next school year. If I can remember to, I'll drive by and write down the names so you guys can google them and see where to apply. My wife's friend is a newer teacher right now and got her notice about 3 weeks ago, so I'm sure we could plumb her for information to if that would help. All in all there are tons of jobs here and with a background in teaching there should be many things your wife could do. What type of background do you have and what type of work would you be looking for out here?

igotskraped · 03-24-2009, 03:26 PM

Crash - Thanks for the heads up. I'll have her Google Queens Creek school district when I get home. I'm currently working for a fire and flood restoration company. I've looked before and it seems there's a couple of those out that way but who knows how busy they get. It'd be something for me just to get started out there. I've got a degree in radio and television broadcasting but even THAT industry is starting to dry up (radio-wise...not particularly interested in television). Most stations out this way are on a hiring freeze or are making layoffs as well. I've been looking at entry-level IT positions or doing something like Help Desk out here just to get my foot in the door of IT but I'm not finding much of anything that sounds like I'd be qualified for.

crashzilla00 · 03-24-2009, 10:29 PM

****, I forgot to look today man. I suck at that ****. After work I'm so focused on getting home not much else gets through to me... There's a couple stations here I could talk to the people I know there and see what they say. PM me or v8eaterwrx since I'm rarely on here anymore and he lives both on this forum and right down the street from me. LOL

igotskraped · 03-25-2009, 11:01 AM

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No worries man. We probably aren't looking to move until summertime or a little after. Our son is due in June and moving now probably isn't a wise decision.

Thanks for lending a helping hand though. Definitely appreciated!

v8eaterWRX · 03-25-2009, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by crashzilla00

****, I forgot to look today man. I suck at that ****. After work I'm so focused on getting home not much else gets through to me... There's a couple stations here I could talk to the people I know there and see what they say. PM me or v8eaterwrx since I'm rarely on here anymore and he lives both on this forum and right down the street from me. LOL

lolz

quoted for tr00f!

crashzilla00 · 03-27-2009, 12:46 PM

brockisgay

racingfish · 03-27-2009, 01:34 PM

teach may be looking for a new job soon too. He's a music teacher and what sucks is they wont tell him if he has a job or not for a couple of months from now. It seems that there are way too many different classes teachers teach now days by means of breaking up a class... they separate english into 2 different classes. So now instead of paying 1 teacher to teach english, they now are paying 2 teachers for doing a job that 1 teacher use to do. They should pay teachers more and stop laying them off imo.

AWDshenanigans · 03-27-2009, 02:01 PM

you do realize AZ is dead last in the country for education right?

r0bman · 03-27-2009, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by AWDshenanigans

you do realize AZ is dead last in the country for education right?

In what category?

http://www.nea.org/home/29402.htm

... I see them on the better half of the numbers more often than not in those tables.

v8eaterWRX · 03-27-2009, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by r0bman

In what category?

http://www.nea.org/home/29402.htm

... I see them on the better half of the numbers more often than not in those tables.

in teh AWDshenanigans category

AWDshenanigans · 03-27-2009, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by r0bman

In what category?

http://www.nea.org/home/29402.htm

... I see them on the better half of the numbers more often than not in those tables.

it was on the news so it must be true. then again, the story after it was about how the recession is over because strip clubs across the country are having hiring fairs

racingfish · 03-27-2009, 04:47 PM

i wonDer how arkansas ranks in the whole eduCation rankings.

r0bman · 03-27-2009, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by racingfish

i wonDer how arkansas ranks in the whole eduCation rankings.

Hmmm. Actually, I've Heard Arkansas Has A decent Hold on All tHe recent tHeories regArding education.

03-23-2009, 08:18 PM	#1
igotskraped Scooby Specialist Member#: 87272 Join Date: May 2005 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Sycamore, IL Vehicle: 2005 FXT Premium PSM	AZ Teaching Positions So...the fiancee and I were out in Anthem back in January visiting her parental units for a weekend. We go every year and every year we make the same decision that eventually we are moving out there. She's currently a Kindergarten teacher but after this year, she's done. Her district eliminated a boatload of positions (around 400-500 and most of them happened to be 1st-3rd year teachers AKA her). Now, we've got nothing holding us back from leaving. There's no better time than this summer. Our son is due in June but if we can find jobs out there, we're leaving IL. Only problem is that after talking to a few of her parents neighbors out there, we've been told that there pretty much is no job market out there at this point. Anybody here a teacher or have any leads or other information on the AZ job market in general? We're open to areas but leaning more towards southern AZ. Thanks in advance for any advice/suggestions/help/whatever. * Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

03-24-2009, 04:32 AM	#11
KP Scooby Guru Member#: 147637 Join Date: Apr 2007 Chapter/Region: International Location: PM SkimSTI for FREEEEEEEEEEEEE Vehicle: HJ's Ask Hobbs. He knows.	I think the Tempe Union district for highschool is hiring, and try the Kyrene for K-8 Last edited by KP; 03-24-2009 at 04:37 AM. Reason: tired and put highering not hiring haha

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03-23-2009, 08:32 PM	#3
furryfootstool Scooby Specialist Member#: 200526 Join Date: Jan 2009 Chapter/Region: SWIC Location: Queen Creek	a friend of mines wife was offered a teaching position a while back at a school out in queen creek. its the mountain vista school. i believe they were hiring not too long ago. not sure about anymore details, she is in labor right now and almost inaccessable

03-23-2009, 08:50 PM	#5
kpluiten Scooby Guru Member#: 120273 Join Date: Jul 2006 Chapter/Region: SWIC Location: AZ Vehicle: 06 WRBWRXWGN Now with 100% more Spec-C	Wirelessly posted (LG Voyager: Mozilla/4.1 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; ) 400x240 LGE VX10000) The job market is still relatively strong here in Arizona. Everyone loves to bitch about how crappy everything is, but in reality, not many of them have experience out side AZ, so they don't know how bad it can be. We're in a slow down like everyone else, but we're still doing MUCH better than other states. On another note, am I the only one who finds it rediculous that grade school teachers now have tenure? Tenure for the most part is bull**** and only serves to allow the stagnation of thought and progress in many cases. The laziest, most difficult professors I ever worked with were tenured. I mean in all seriousness, how hard would you really work if you knew you couldn't be fired for anything besides touching a kid. There was a professor at the UofA that took his entire english lit class up to Mt. Lemmon in Tucson during class time to smoke pot with him and he didn't get more than a verbal reprimand. Tenure is somewhat akin to the UAW.

03-23-2009, 09:16 PM	#6
igotskraped Scooby Specialist Member#: 87272 Join Date: May 2005 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Sycamore, IL Vehicle: 2005 FXT Premium PSM	^ Agreed. It's absolutely ridiculous. They're putting 10-20-30 year "teachers" in a position they haven't taught in ages, if ever. It looks good on paper to the school board but as a parent, how would you feel if your 6 year old was being taught the basic essentials of school by someone that has been a social worker for so many years? I'd be furious but as usual, there's nothing anybody can do about it. They apparently have a "recall" list if there are any open positions after those that are tenured pick their new position. F'ing absurd.

03-23-2009, 09:48 PM	#7
brocksuncle Scooby Newbie Member#: 204425 Join Date: Mar 2009 Chapter/Region: SWIC Location: Santa Fe, NM Vehicle: 06 & 05 STi - Daily Driven & Fully built	My lady is looking for a teaching job as well. We are thinking about the Queen Creek area. From my latest research, it seems to be the new and upcoming city. Are there any car meets out that way? I would need to make friends quick before I turn into an alky.

03-23-2009, 10:23 PM	#8
v8eaterWRX Scooby Guru Member#: 108547 Join Date: Feb 2006 Chapter/Region: SWIC Location: boondock camping Vehicle: 2012 Tundra Crewmax 4x4 5.7l TRD AFE Stage II	There are a few of us in Queen Creek and a fairly large meet every thursday. Plus you could be living close to a Brock and a brocksdad

03-23-2009, 10:40 PM	#9
kpluiten Scooby Guru Member#: 120273 Join Date: Jul 2006 Chapter/Region: SWIC Location: AZ Vehicle: 06 WRBWRXWGN Now with 100% more Spec-C	Wirelessly posted (LG Voyager: Mozilla/4.1 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; ) 400x240 LGE VX10000) I don't know about that... Queen Creek is definately new, but I'm not so sure about up and coming. It has been hit VERY hard by the housing bubble collapse and is currently suffering from extremely high forecloser and abandonment rates. The dwindling tax base and recent spending on infrustructure has left the city pretty broke. Basically, its a very new city that has grown far too fast for the goverment to keep up. It's still run by a bunch of farmers and good ol boys who are opposed to the growth and change that a quickly growing city needs. All in all, it's not so bad I suppose, but its having some serious growing pains and it will take a while for things to get sorted out. Gilbert, Phoenix, Chandler and Tempe are still much better places to live in my opinion, but then again, property is much more expensive too.

03-24-2009, 01:50 AM	#10
06AZForesterXt Scooby Newbie Member#: 201683 Join Date: Jan 2009 Chapter/Region: SWIC Location: Chandler, AZ Vehicle: 06 FXT CGM	My wife is a teacher in the Higley district and they are in the same boat as you. As of now 1st year teachers don't have a job and if that doesn't make the budget 2nd, 3rd.... you get the point. I too live in Queen Creek and a few miles south of me there is a new High School going up. Maybe check the Florence District. Good luck.

03-24-2009, 07:18 AM	#12
igotskraped Scooby Specialist Member#: 87272 Join Date: May 2005 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Sycamore, IL Vehicle: 2005 FXT Premium PSM	Wirelessly posted (Sidekick: Mozilla/5.0 (Danger hiptop 4.6; U; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20050920) Thanks for all the advice. I'm sure you're all thinking, "Great! More Midwesterners. Just what we need! " but IL just ain't cuttin' it no mo'!

03-24-2009, 10:40 AM	#13
crashzilla00 Scooby Newbie Member#: 173778 Join Date: Mar 2008	There are 3 new schools that I know of in Queen Creek set to open this next school year. If I can remember to, I'll drive by and write down the names so you guys can google them and see where to apply. My wife's friend is a newer teacher right now and got her notice about 3 weeks ago, so I'm sure we could plumb her for information to if that would help. All in all there are tons of jobs here and with a background in teaching there should be many things your wife could do. What type of background do you have and what type of work would you be looking for out here?

03-24-2009, 03:26 PM	#14
igotskraped Scooby Specialist Member#: 87272 Join Date: May 2005 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Sycamore, IL Vehicle: 2005 FXT Premium PSM	Crash - Thanks for the heads up. I'll have her Google Queens Creek school district when I get home. I'm currently working for a fire and flood restoration company. I've looked before and it seems there's a couple of those out that way but who knows how busy they get. It'd be something for me just to get started out there. I've got a degree in radio and television broadcasting but even THAT industry is starting to dry up (radio-wise...not particularly interested in television). Most stations out this way are on a hiring freeze or are making layoffs as well. I've been looking at entry-level IT positions or doing something like Help Desk out here just to get my foot in the door of IT but I'm not finding much of anything that sounds like I'd be qualified for.

03-24-2009, 10:29 PM	#15
crashzilla00 Scooby Newbie Member#: 173778 Join Date: Mar 2008	**, I forgot to look today man. I suck at that **. After work I'm so focused on getting home not much else gets through to me... There's a couple stations here I could talk to the people I know there and see what they say. PM me or v8eaterwrx since I'm rarely on here anymore and he lives both on this forum and right down the street from me. LOL

03-25-2009, 11:01 AM	#16
igotskraped Scooby Specialist Member#: 87272 Join Date: May 2005 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Sycamore, IL Vehicle: 2005 FXT Premium PSM	Wirelessly posted (Sidekick: Mozilla/5.0 (Danger hiptop 4.6; U; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20050920) No worries man. We probably aren't looking to move until summertime or a little after. Our son is due in June and moving now probably isn't a wise decision. Thanks for lending a helping hand though. Definitely appreciated!

03-27-2009, 12:46 PM	#18
crashzilla00 Scooby Newbie Member#: 173778 Join Date: Mar 2008	brockisgay

03-27-2009, 01:34 PM	#19
racingfish Scooby Guru Member#: 60976 Join Date: May 2004 Chapter/Region: SWIC Location: Goodyear Vehicle: 1969 LGT FATURBO	teach may be looking for a new job soon too. He's a music teacher and what sucks is they wont tell him if he has a job or not for a couple of months from now. It seems that there are way too many different classes teachers teach now days by means of breaking up a class... they separate english into 2 different classes. So now instead of paying 1 teacher to teach english, they now are paying 2 teachers for doing a job that 1 teacher use to do. They should pay teachers more and stop laying them off imo.

03-27-2009, 02:01 PM	#20
AWDshenanigans Scooby Specialist Member#: 197856 Join Date: Dec 2008 Chapter/Region: SWIC Location: 'merikuh Vehicle: 2010 FJ Cruiser Sandstorm	you do realize AZ is dead last in the country for education right?

03-27-2009, 04:47 PM	#24
racingfish Scooby Guru Member#: 60976 Join Date: May 2004 Chapter/Region: SWIC Location: Goodyear Vehicle: 1969 LGT FATURBO	i wonDer how arkansas ranks in the whole eduCation rankings.