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Old 03-24-2009, 03:21 PM   #1
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Default 08 STI E85 and a 20G + Airboys Spread sheet

Basically, shes a test bed, Wifes fun car, my learning car.
Heres the list.

Hits 22psi on post#10

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Credit to Braden at XPT for showing me the way here and teaching me a **** load.

Next 2 weeks, GS X over pipe
IAG EWG Tial 38mm setup

Going to work on that humpy bit on the 21 psi rom today. once thats nailed Ill wait to push further with new hard ware.

All data 3rd gear. S = 18 psi target flat S# targets 21 tapering to 20.












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Old 03-24-2009, 03:32 PM   #2
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what does your wife think of the power?
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Old 03-24-2009, 03:36 PM   #3
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what does your wife think of the power?

She approves man, gives it a foot full, just made me take the muffler off as she could not hear the stereo.....



Heaven help her when the WG dumps shortly above 16 psi....
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Old 03-24-2009, 03:38 PM   #4
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Do you have a sonud clip of the Perrin catback with stock mufflers?
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Old 03-24-2009, 03:39 PM   #5
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Finally great numbers. For reference my car is making like 290whp and 320wtq with a VF39 E85 at 22 psi, using the sam roa dyno.

I think Pathron just hit similar numbers with a green and meth

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Old 03-24-2009, 05:51 PM   #6
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That a boy Keith

Now lets see you make those numbers at 5000Ft jk. Keep up the good work, just make sure you get some better pistons before u start knocking on 500WHP.


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Old 03-24-2009, 06:05 PM   #7
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thats crazy spool man, you are spooling just like my VF39 and I have TGV deletes. You can still lean it out a little bit, you also need bigger injectors .

Take the car to the track, I see a 20G possibly in my future
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Old 03-24-2009, 09:06 PM   #8
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thats crazy spool man, you are spooling just like my VF39 and I have TGV deletes. You can still lean it out a little bit, you also need bigger injectors .

Take the car to the track, I see a 20G possibly in my future
Happy with spool yeah gonna be interesting when she is finally finished, will repost data at that time.

Injectors ok for now, although granted running out of steam up top, I think they could cope with 23-25 psi mid range no probs, prob 20-21 at redline especially with the fuel a little leaner, my WB is post one cat. Im leaving the fuel static at the mo due to the boost tuning.
Speaking to Braden today, I think we may be able to tweak AVCS later to give slightly better spool and some more up top, time will tell.

Oh Kirill, I priced up some internals... but think it will be Dom3 time then! , at least.

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Old 03-24-2009, 11:04 PM   #9
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Happy with spool yeah gonna be interesting when she is finally finished, will repost data at that time.

Injectors ok for now, although granted running out of steam up top, I think they could cope with 23-25 psi mid range no probs, prob 20-21 at redline especially with the fuel a little leaner, my WB is post one cat. Im leaving the fuel static at the mo due to the boost tuning.
Speaking to Braden today, I think we may be able to tweak AVCS later to give slightly better spool and some more up top, time will tell.

Oh Kirill, I priced up some internals... but think it will be Dom3 time then! , at least.

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Eh? I personally was uncomfortable going over 90% on my 816's. I saw weird things start happening past that.

Regardless, needs moAr injector and boost.
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Old 03-24-2009, 11:38 PM   #10
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Eh? I personally was uncomfortable going over 90% on my 816's. I saw weird things start happening past that.

Regardless, needs moAr injector and boost.
Fueling is solid dude, once we lean it up a little I will have a little more head room, may justify some 1000 cc with a dom3 and E85 later, if not I wont change em. As for the boost, this is fresh from tonights efforts. S at 17.5psi S# touching 22, Couple of psi, still making powa, bring on the wrenchin...



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Old 03-25-2009, 02:52 PM   #11
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All data 3rd gear.
did you change the gear ratio in the spreadsheet? if not, the numbers will come down when you do....

450whp is almost unbelievable for any 20g......especially on that low boost and a low reading dyno.

i think this is the highest one ive seen previously....444whp on c16 & a dynojet @ 27psi

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...&highlight=20g
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Old 03-25-2009, 02:59 PM   #12
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did you change the gear ratio in the spreadsheet? if not, the numbers will come down when you do....

450whp is almost unbelievable for any 20g......
Its set up for 3rd gear 08/09 sti, same as my previous pulls on my 08, ref stage 2 93 oct went 299/365 and my VF48 with E85 did 370/438 I believe, sure there are variables in there, exact part of the road? exact temps ? exact ???? but I use it as a guide to see the difference between the tunes, its ball park, but how wide a park is anyones guess. I try to run same road at all times.

Butt approves, Im going to re visit the dynowhen EWG is on and final tune in place.

FTR It put down 338 WHP pulling 2 degs through heat soak on a dynometer with VF48 and E85, TRQ signal was all over the place due to bad pick up, air boys gave 370-380 on that set up.

I am not a numbers guy but an 'improvement' guy

give me a sec, Ill post up the settings from spread sheet
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hmmm.....ur car should trap ~125-128mph then......i just dont see it happening with a 20g.

mind sending me your spreadsheet? r-j-w@rocketmail.com

why 3rd gear? low end tq/power would be more impressive in 4th.....
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Here ya go, LMK if ya see anything out of sync, Ill re run the data if so.
Cheers
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Old 03-25-2009, 03:11 PM   #15
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hmmm.....ur car should trap ~125-128mph then......i just dont see it happening with a 20g.

mind sending me your spreadsheet? r-j-w@rocketmail.com

why 3rd gear? low end tq/power would be more impressive in 4th.....

on way - 3rd gear - tuning on the street, 80-90 is enough to brake off quickly..lol
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Your delta weight is high....you way 400lbs?

and why is the final drive 3.545?

I have an amp rack, sub, 12L meth and i have 200 lbs for my delta weight......and i weigh 200 lbs.
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Your delta weight is high....you way 400lbs?

and why is the final drive 3.545?
I weigh 220 + gas and a baby seat...lol , I have not touched anything else dude so change away, I sent ya the data

BTW, Im not in compitition on numbers

I make it with 200 lbs flat 373/372 and 418/420 ran another with 250 delta ..... 378/377 423/425

Not sure on final drive though.. will look up that - looks like 3.9, not much difference to the result?

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Old 03-25-2009, 03:19 PM   #18
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looking good keith. You suck for not getting a drink with me when you were in town. I knew you would puss out
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Are you worried about the Injector Duty almost maxed out at 95%? Bigger injectors needed for E85? Thanks.
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looking good keith. You suck for not getting a drink with me when you were in town. I knew you would puss out
Eat me Phag, Ill be back, I had my back to the wall for a couple weeks..

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Are you worried about the Injector Duty almost maxed out at 95%? Bigger injectors needed for E85? Thanks.
Mid range is fine dude, not planning on running more up top so Im good, not driving around at>6K a lot. 5% plenty of room anyways
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BTW, Im not in compitition on numbers
no....its not about that.

im just having a hard time with a 20g being over 400whp on 18psi.....and at 450whp at 22psi

its just amazing is all.

changing the final drive doesnt really do anything to the plot.
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Kastley, can you send me one of your logs too, I wanna play around with it on airboy's spd sheet. I can never seem to get such clean looking graphs. runin32lbsoboost at gmail (all "o's" not zeros)
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no....its not about that.

im just having a hard time with a 20g being over 400whp on 18psi.....and at 450whp at 22psi

its just amazing is all.

changing the final drive doesnt really do anything to the plot.
I know Ron but had to get it in, Im good.
Yes the graph amazed me when I saw it, been using this software from day one with this car so been really usefull.

I think I will stick with the 250 lb Delta going forward and final drive as is, Ill post up new logs as things change, its interesting stuff.

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I weigh 220 + gas
i think gas is included in the curb weight isnt it?

im gonna go to the dump in a bit to weigh mine
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i think gas is included in the curb weight isnt it?

im gonna go to the dump in a bit to weigh mine
hmmmm not sure, maybe I will put it at my body weight and call it good, split the difference.

LMK what she weighs in at.

edit - yes - looks like curb weight includes gas, 220 it is

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