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Old 03-27-2009, 09:37 AM   #51
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I'ma little busy at work, so I'll have to do the duno plots when I get home.
No worries. Might also want to re-run the first couple dyno plots using your new smoothing factor rules, too .
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Old 03-27-2009, 10:52 AM   #52
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Do you really think it is fair to put the EJ207 and the EJ205 in the same category?,... We all know the 207 is far more capable in raw form
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Old 03-27-2009, 11:46 AM   #53
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Do you really think it is fair to put the EJ207 and the EJ205 in the same category?,... We all know the 207 is far more capable in raw form
Anyone in the top 10 wont have a stock ej205 anyway....
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Old 03-27-2009, 11:54 AM   #54
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Data has been entered and results are as follows:



Updating list now
I'm puzzeled how our numbers are different.

Here is a shot of the data I posted above in the spreadsheet. We must have some number different?




I see you used a smoothing of 6, which is too much. It creates too few datapoints given the size of the log. Using 3 nets a much closer curve to what I get on the dyno, as well as being more accurate (and a bit lower HP for me).

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Old 03-27-2009, 12:01 PM   #55
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^Did I miss the boat on the latest spreadsheet version? I have "ver3p7c Jan 08" yet it doesn't have data for the '08 STI. Only the '08 WRX hatch and sedan.
edit: NVM, just added in the '08 STI data.

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Old 03-27-2009, 12:18 PM   #56
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ah ok, I just checked over a few different logs and from now on I'll use the following rule for calculating smoothing:

3 = 0-30 data points
4 = 31-40 data points
5 = 41-50 data points
6 = 51-60 data points
7 = 61-70 data points
8 = 80+ data points
Those are probably too agressive on the smoothing. There really is no benifit to smoothing unless you have a LOT of data points. Remember that if you use a smoothing of 5, you loose the last 5 data points. That is why the graph you produced of my data is so different from what I did.

Consider that with 40 datapoints, a smoothing of 5 reduces the data by 10 (5 on each side), which is a reduction of 25%!.

My suggestion would be to take those numbers above and cut them in half (or double the range).

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Well, I'm not sure there really is a "one size fits all" answer to that. Smoothing factor needed is very dependent on how many data points the log has. If you use a high smoothing on a log with less data points, it'll come out like mine did...quite flat .
Other then reducing incorrect peaks, there is no gain to having a large smoothing factor. If your log has perhaps a few hundred points you would need more smoothing, but anything in 3rd gear with 30-60 points should be at '3'. Do a comparison to a real dyno plot and it will make sense.

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Yeah, I guess what I am saying is that I could pull a log from when it was zero degrees here in MN, and that could shoot out numbers that would be higher then someone with a much larger turbo and IAT's in the 80's, even though they would have a much faster car, comparatively.

Maybe it's best to have everyone attempt to get logs that have IAT's around 60-70 and post those?

Also, you may want to clarify which "smoothing" factor you used for everyone's logs. The smoothing factor will have an effect on how the graph "looks," and the final numbers (higher smoothing will generally net lower total numbers).

Anyway, I like the idea, regardless .
The IATs for that spreadsheet are not for Air Temp Correction of the numbers, but to change the density of the air for aero drag. It is a VERY small factor. The slope of the road (not logged) will make a MUCH larger difference.

Requiring IATs of 60-70 will prevent 1/2 the country from posting.

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How are you normalizing numbers for IAT? That can make a massive difference in total numbers. Also, I'd move tire size up into the vehicle info field. This should be required as it is needed for correct numbers.
There is nothing to normalize. There is no need, nor is is correct to 'correct' the measured power for temperature.

Remember: If someone elses car makes more power when it is cold, it is making more power when it is cold. The 'correction' does nothing but make the representation of what the car did incorrect.

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wrxsti.l - why does your sheet go to 7000rpm but sponaugle goes to 6000rpm even when his log clearly shows 7000rpm?
Smoothing used. I used 3. I believe he used 5 or 6?

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np Jeff. I'll set IAT, AP and VS as option but prefered (as to limit me from excluding data if it looks wrong).
Understood. If anyone uses the AP to log ( a great features ), it doesn't log Atmos Pres.

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Old 03-27-2009, 12:19 PM   #57
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^Did I miss the boat on the latest spreadsheet version? I have "ver3p7c Jan 08" yet it doesn't have data for the '08 STI. Only the '08 WRX hatch and sedan.
edit: NVM, just added in the '08 STI data.
I added the data, plus corrected the data for the 07 STI. Airboy can make the corrections and respost, or I can post it on my site. Whichever Airboy prefers.

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Old 03-27-2009, 01:17 PM   #58
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^Are you referring to the 3rd gear ratio on the '07 STI (and the '08 STI)? I corrected it as well from 1.512 to 1.521. It's such a small difference that I can't imagine it making that large a difference in the charts.
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Old 03-27-2009, 01:36 PM   #59
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^Are you referring to the 3rd gear ratio on the '07 STI (and the '08 STI)? I corrected it as well from 1.512 to 1.521. It's such a small difference that I can't imagine it making that large a difference in the charts.
It made a difference of 5hp.
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Old 03-27-2009, 01:38 PM   #60
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VEHICLE DETAILS
Car: '08 STI
Engine: EJ257 (stock)
Turbo: Dominator III
Turbo Intake: AMR 74mm big MAF
Intercooler: AMR
Filter/Intake: K&N (?)
MAF size: 74mm
Exhaust: Invidia catless 3" DP, stock CBE
Injectors: DW 850cc
Fuel Pump: Walbro 255lph
Log gear: 3rd
Tyre Size: 225/45/17
Delta Weight: (3395 + 240 (me, stereo, fuel))

Code:
Time	Load    RPM	IAT	MRP    MAF	TOA
14662	1.48	2101	50	1.16	53.45	100
14891	1.52	2191	50	1.6	57.34	100
15113	1.56	2270	50	2.03	61.19	100
15336	1.61	2352	50	2.47	65.12	100
15564	1.69	2436	50	3.05	67.57	100
15787	1.77	2551	50	3.63	76.06	100
16015	1.89	2624	50	4.21	83.38	100
16239	2.02	2749	50	5.08	94.33	100
16465	2.19	2860	50	6.24	103.51	100
16692	2.31	2971	52	7.84	115.41	100
16916	2.52	3088	52	9.87	130.19	100
17143	2.73	3246	54	12.33	150.27	100
17367	3.14	3428	54	15.38	180.79	100
17597	3.44	3541	54	18.86	215.44	100
17817	3.66	3770	54	20.46	234.94	100
18049	3.58	3976	55	20.46	227.19	100
18268	3.42	4156	55	20.02	245.59	100
18493	3.39	4303	55	20.02	240.22	100
18721	3.53	4569	55	21.04	275.24	100
18951	3.53	4732	55	20.75	275.36	100
19171	3.52	4901	55	20.46	290.5	100
19397	3.52	5175	55	20.02	295.47	100
19623	3.47	5308	54	19.73	303.94	100
19849	3.41	5473	54	19.3	309.43	100
20073	3.34	5648	54	19.01	311.49	100
20300	3.27	5860	54	18.86	316.93	100
20527	3.23	5993	54	18.86	318.12	100
20752	3.17	6141	54	18.72	327.62	100
20978	3.14	6350	52	18.43	326.94	100
21211	3.08	6547	52	18.28	333.87	100
21429	3.02	6594	52	18.28	329.44	100
21653	2.98	6795	52	18.43	339.09	100
21882	2.95	6939	52	18.57	337.1	100
Worth noting:
- Fuel is 91 octane (Shell)
- Ambient temperature: 1*C (33.8*F)
- Altitude: 2400FT
- Humidity: 40%
- Smoothing: 3

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Print screen:


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Old 03-27-2009, 01:44 PM   #61
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Delta Weight: (3395 + 240 (me, stereo, fuel))
Fuel is included in curb weight

For my delta i assumed the weight of stereo (12" sub, amp, amp rack and my 12L of meth) were offset by the lighter exhaust parts.

So i ended up just using my weight for the delta.

Im gonna go to the dump right now and see how close my assumptions are.

Based on how much my WRX weighed i think 3550 lbs is gonna be low.....
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Old 03-27-2009, 01:47 PM   #62
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Fuel is included in curb weight

For my delta i assumed the weight of stereo (12" sub, amp, amp rack and my 12L of meth) were offset by the lighter exhaust parts.

So i ended up just using my weight for the delta.

Im gonna go to the dump right now and see how close my assumptions are.

Based on how much my WRX weighed i think 3550 lbs is gonna be low.....
Interesting.. I'll put my 08 on corner scales over lunch and report back.

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Old 03-27-2009, 02:23 PM   #63
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I was right.....it was low. I got fallowed to the dump by the po po.....bastages.

3610 lbs

I filled up my gas tank yesterday.

Interesting indeed
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Old 03-27-2009, 04:29 PM   #64
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Other then reducing incorrect peaks, there is no gain to having a large smoothing factor. If your log has perhaps a few hundred points you would need more smoothing, but anything in 3rd gear with 30-60 points should be at '3'. Do a comparison to a real dyno plot and it will make sense.
You are correct, although that "reducing incorrect peaks" is needed for logs in which only 2-4 parameters are logged. Road dynos really pick up a lot of "road noise" so to speak.

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The IATs for that spreadsheet are not for Air Temp Correction of the numbers, but to change the density of the air for aero drag. It is a VERY small factor. The slope of the road (not logged) will make a MUCH larger difference.

Requiring IATs of 60-70 will prevent 1/2 the country from posting.
Yes. As we have both mentioned, ambient temperature has one of the largest effects on total numbers from the road dyno. Of course, road composition and tire size do as well.

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There is nothing to normalize. There is no need, nor is is correct to 'correct' the measured power for temperature.

Remember: If someone elses car makes more power when it is cold, it is making more power when it is cold. The 'correction' does nothing but make the representation of what the car did incorrect.
Yes, this is my whole point, and why putting a "top 10" of straight numbers together is flawed. We are both saying the same thing. Comparing the numbers of a road dyno numbers from one car at 40* IATs to a road dyno of another car at 80* IATs doesn't actually give much usable information.
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Old 03-27-2009, 04:34 PM   #65
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Those are probably too agressive on the smoothing. There really is no benifit to smoothing unless you have a LOT of data points. Remember that if you use a smoothing of 5, you loose the last 5 data points. That is why the graph you produced of my data is so different from what I did.

Consider that with 40 datapoints, a smoothing of 5 reduces the data by 10 (5 on each side), which is a reduction of 25%!.

My suggestion would be to take those numbers above and cut them in half (or double the range).
Also, I would say I agree with this as well, although I would simply use the lowest smoothing factor required to get a "semi smooth" curve.
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Old 03-27-2009, 04:45 PM   #66
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Cool thread!

Here's a graph. I don't have the log right now. I'll get a new one once my new mods are on and I hope to match these numbers. I'll also be hitting the 1/4 mile on April 10th.

Mods when i made this graph:

Forged CP 99.5mm dropins (ceramic top coated and skirts coated over 10k miles on them now with loads of experiments!)
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Dual TXS catch cans (one for breather one for block with PCV)
TGV deletes
Airpump delete
3 port BCS (interrupt mode)
Agency Power catless D/P
WB FP
DW 750CC injectors (WRX light blue topfeeds)
SPT CBE exhaust
Blouch TD05 8CM^2 20G
Samco inlet, maf, and intercooler hoses
Snow performance meth kit (boost based) 50/50
22 PSI taper to 19.

Default delta weight, 4th gear, smoothing 6, 37 degrees outside (note - reference was same tune but it was 80 degrees out, gotta love Texas!)



New mods going on (or on already):

Gone:
APS CAI - gone (wife's car)
Samco hoses - gone (wife's car)
SPT CBE - gone (sitting in the garage what a POS!)
08 STi TMIC - gone (thing never fit right and fins love to bend, what a POS!)

New:
GS x-over pipe (installed)
Nvidia up pipe (installed)
SRS CBE (installed)
SSAC FMIC (almost installed)
APS hard inlet
AEM short ram
Parallel fuel rail mod
Manifold spacers

I'll be tuning the car next weekend when I finish up my mods. I'll also post up wife's (tess on the forums) 06 STi road dyno and log which has the following mods:

Ported WG VF39
Samco MAF and inlet hose
TXS TMIC
APS 65 mm CAI
Nvidia catless D/P
SRS CBE
3 port BCS (interrupt mode)

Once the maps are done I'll be posting them on Romraider as well.

Gabe

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Old 03-27-2009, 09:13 PM   #67
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updated spreadsheet over at RomRaider.com

Vehicle data updated.
Accel macro keeps a few more data points at the end of the file

http://www.romraider.com/forum/topic957.html
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Old 03-27-2009, 09:39 PM   #68
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Relative Nasioc newbie going for the lowest numbers.

Car: 2007 WRX Sedan Manual
Engine: stock 2.5l
Turbo: stock td04
ECU: Cobb Stage 1 91oct
Tire: 225/45/17
Gear: 3
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atmospheric pressure: 14.6psi
delta: 240

Code:
Time	RPM	Load	TOA	MRP	IAT	VS
0.92	2362	0.23	7.06	-10.59	71.6	34.18
1.1	2359	0.23	7.45	-10.59	71.6	34.18
1.26	2367	0.23	7.45	-10.73	71.6	34.18
1.44	2364	0.23	7.84	-10.59	71.6	34.18
1.6	2353	0.27	9.02	-10.3	71.6	34.18
1.76	2346	0.3	9.02	-10.01	71.6	34.18
1.95	2391	0.47	20.78	-6.38	71.6	34.18
2.11	2394	0.94	24.3	-2.61	71.6	34.18
2.28	2435	1.2	57.23	0.29	71.6	33.55
2.46	2476	1.37	90.55	1.74	71.6	33.55
2.65	2514	1.49	99.96	3.19	71.6	33.55
2.81	2589	1.59	99.96	4.5	71.6	34.18
3	2645	1.69	99.96	5.8	71.6	34.18
3.15	2720	1.8	99.96	7.25	71.6	35.42
3.33	2788	1.93	99.96	8.7	71.6	35.42
3.52	2841	2.05	99.96	10.15	71.6	35.42
3.68	2917	2.14	99.96	11.6	71.6	37.9
3.87	3012	2.24	99.96	12.91	71.6	37.9
4.04	3088	2.32	99.96	13.92	71.6	37.9
4.2	3201	2.36	99.96	14.21	71.6	40.39
4.39	3292	2.36	99.96	14.07	71.6	40.39
4.55	3346	2.37	99.96	13.78	71.6	40.39
4.74	3464	2.38	99.96	13.78	71.6	43.5
4.91	3523	2.4	99.96	13.63	71.6	43.5
5.07	3628	2.46	99.96	13.63	71.6	46.6
5.26	3677	2.48	99.96	13.63	69.8	46.6
5.44	3766	2.49	99.96	13.49	69.8	46.6
5.6	3840	2.5	99.96	13.63	69.8	50.33
5.77	3922	2.52	99.96	13.78	69.8	50.33
5.95	4003	2.51	99.96	13.92	69.8	50.33
6.14	4090	2.52	99.96	14.07	69.8	53.44
6.32	4154	2.51	99.96	14.07	69.8	53.44
6.48	4271	2.5	99.96	13.92	69.8	55.92
6.64	4351	2.47	99.96	13.92	69.8	55.92
6.82	4375	2.48	99.96	13.92	68	55.92
7.01	4450	2.49	99.96	13.78	68	59.03
7.19	4512	2.48	99.96	13.63	68	59.03
7.36	4616	2.46	99.96	13.49	68	59.03
7.52	4659	2.44	99.96	13.49	68	62.14
7.73	4735	2.44	99.96	13.34	68	62.14
7.89	4770	2.43	99.96	13.2	68	65.24
8.05	4877	2.44	99.96	13.05	68	65.24
8.22	4953	2.42	99.96	12.91	68	65.24
8.41	5016	2.4	99.96	12.76	68	67.11
8.57	5074	2.39	99.96	12.62	68	67.11
8.75	5091	2.38	99.96	12.62	68	67.11
8.94	5194	2.36	99.96	12.33	66.2	69.59
9.12	5251	2.35	99.96	12.18	66.2	69.59
9.28	5279	2.33	99.96	11.89	66.2	69.59
9.44	5336	2.3	99.96	11.75	66.2	72.08
9.62	5433	2.29	99.96	11.6	66.2	72.08
9.81	5489	2.27	99.96	11.31	66.2	75.19
9.99	5549	2.25	99.96	11.31	66.2	75.19
10.16	5551	2.24	99.96	11.02	66.2	75.19
10.32	5610	2.21	99.96	10.88	66.2	77.05
10.49	5660	2.2	99.96	10.73	66.2	77.05
10.7	5715	2.18	99.96	10.59	66.2	77.05
10.87	5819	2.16	99.96	10.44	66.2	79.54
11.03	5836	2.13	99.96	10.44	66.2	79.54
11.22	5921	2.11	99.96	10.3	66.2	81.4
11.4	5970	2.09	99.96	10.15	66.2	81.4
11.57	6014	2.09	99.96	10.15	66.2	81.4
11.75	6063	2.07	99.96	10.15	66.2	83.26
11.89	6108	2.06	97.22	10.3	66.2	83.26

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Old 03-28-2009, 01:38 AM   #69
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lightened crank pulley

also have the full jdm twinscroll exhaust lightened crank pulley, stock tranny and clutch at 106k

Code:
Time    LOAD    RPM    MRP    VS    AP    IAT    TOA)
0    1.06    2000    1.6    25    14.51    91    100
219    1.08    2044    1.78    25    14.51    91    100
453    1.09    2115    1.95    25    14.51    91    100
672    1.11    2159    2.13    27    14.51    91    100
891    1.13    2252    2.28    27    14.51    91    100
1125    1.14    2277    2.48    28    14.51    91    100
1344    1.16    2352    2.65    28    14.51    91    100
1562    1.18    2404    2.84    30    14.51    91    100
1781    1.21    2456    3.11    30    14.51    91    100
2016    1.22    2528    3.35    32    14.51    91    100
2234    1.23    2615    3.58    32    14.51    91    100
2453    1.25    2658    3.87    34    14.51    91    100
2687    1.28    2722    4.2    34    14.51    91    100
2906    1.32    2776    4.52    35    14.51    91    100
3141    1.36    2854    4.89    35    14.51    91    100
3359    1.39    2936    5.2    37    14.51    91    100
3578    1.41    3020    5.59    37    14.51    90    100
3812    1.42    3093    5.9    39    14.51    90    100
4031    1.43    3178    6.17    39    14.51    90    100
4250    1.46    3237    6.44    42    14.51    90    100
4484    1.47    3291    6.77    42    14.51    90    100
4703    1.51    3369    7.12    43    14.51    90    100
4922    1.53    3421    7.48    43    14.51    90    100
5156    1.59    3556    7.93    43    14.51    90    100
5375    1.66    3592    8.57    46    14.51    90    100
5594    1.72    3700    9.2    46    14.51    90    100
5812    1.77    3794    9.98    47    14.51    90    100
6047    1.83    3892    10.73    47    14.51    90    100
6266    1.89    3951    11.45    50    14.51    90    100
6484    1.92    4056    12.24    50    14.51    90    100
6703    1.96    4173    12.9    52    14.51    90    100
6922    2.02    4261    13.63    52    14.51    90    100
7156    2.06    4340    14.33    55    14.51    90    100
7375    2.09    4464    14.72    55    14.51    88    100
7594    2.1    4587    15.12    58    14.51    88    100
7828    2.07    4678    15.16    58    14.51    88    100
8047    2.07    4756    15.18    61    14.51    88    100
8266    2.06    4876    15.1    61    14.51    88    100
8484    2.04    4977    15.1    64    14.51    88    100
8719    2.03    5092    15.04    64    14.51    88    100
8937    2.03    5186    14.93    66    14.51    88    100
9156    2.02    5259    14.81    66    14.51    88    100
9375    2    5380    14.6    66    14.51    88    100
9594    1.98    5482    14.43    70    14.51    88    100
9812    1.96    5564    14.39    70    14.51    88    100
10031    1.95    5669    14.17    73    14.51    88    100
10250    1.93    5818    13.94    73    14.51    88    100
10484    1.91    5896    13.81    76    14.51    88    100
10703    1.89    5938    13.69    76    14.51    88    100
10937    1.87    6078    13.71    79    14.51    88    100
11141    1.86    6168    13.52    79    14.51    88    100
11375    1.83    6198    13.52    81    14.51    88    100
11609    1.82    6345    13.32    81    14.51    88    100
11828    1.8    6383    13.28    84    14.51    88    100
12047    1.79    6499    13.48    84    14.51    88    100
12266    1.76    6538    13.32    86    14.51    88    100
12484    1.75    6643    13.56    86    14.51    88    100
12719    1.73    6762    13.69    89    14.51    88    100
12953    1.71    6738    13.57    89    14.51    88    100
13172    1.69    6800    13.56    89    14.51    88    100
13375    1.68    6912    13.54    92    14.51    88    100

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I was right.....it was low. I got fallowed to the dump by the po po.....bastages.

3610 lbs

I filled up my gas tank yesterday.

Interesting indeed
Yes sir.. I corner balanced my 08 STI today. It has a GT30 turbo kit, FMIC, and 275 35 18 tires on 18x9.5" wheels, plus subs in the back, so I was surprised it came out pretty close in weight.

With out me in the car it was 3450 lbs, with me 3648, and it was at a bit over 1/2 tank of gas.

With me in the car, the corner balance was:

FL 1033 FR 1030
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Total Front to Rear: 56.5%
Total Left to Right: 51.5%

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You are correct, although that "reducing incorrect peaks" is needed for logs in which only 2-4 parameters are logged. Road dynos really pick up a lot of "road noise" so to speak.



Yes. As we have both mentioned, ambient temperature has one of the largest effects on total numbers from the road dyno. Of course, road composition and tire size do as well.



Yes, this is my whole point, and why putting a "top 10" of straight numbers together is flawed. We are both saying the same thing. Comparing the numbers of a road dyno numbers from one car at 40* IATs to a road dyno of another car at 80* IATs doesn't actually give much usable information.
Don't view this as a "contest", but rather, a collection of road dyno data. I mean, you already know the most powerful setup would be the guy from sea level, with a big turbo, water/meth, logging in cold weather, etc. I think the value of this thread is that data logs comes with additional information like elevation, temperature, and tire size along with the usual info of turbo setup. Having that in one thread make it easier if you want to compile the data.
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well i posted, and i can see my post if i go to my posts, but dont see it just looking regular
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Don't view this as a "contest", but rather, a collection of road dyno data. I mean, you already know the most powerful setup would be the guy from sea level, with a big turbo, water/meth, logging in cold weather, etc. I think the value of this thread is that data logs comes with additional information like elevation, temperature, and tire size along with the usual info of turbo setup. Having that in one thread make it easier if you want to compile the data.
Yup, that's about how I was approaching it, regardless. I certainly love the idea for a thread (there was a similar one on Romraider that seems to have fell off the radar). My comments were more aimed at the OP and his "top 10" approach, that's it.
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I think this thread will be amazing. The ability to see a whole bunch data from a variety of set ups without the whole "this dyno is high reading BS" is going to be insanely helpful.

I'll gladly contribute when I get tuned in 2-3 weeks
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I have an update.. I'll update my first post though
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