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Old 07-27-2013, 10:08 AM   #1
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Default 2009 WRX 2.5L R/T Tuning - COBB ProTuned Stage 3 - 330whp/359wtq

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2009 WRX 2.5L COBB ProTune Stage 3 93oct. 330whp/359wtq

Event: COBB ProTune Dyno
Location: R/T Tuning, Lansdale, PA
Ambient Temp: 84*F
Elevation: 361'
Weather: Partly Cloudy, Winds W @ 8mph
Humidity: 40%
Barometric Pressure: 30.03in.
Tires: Sumitomo HTR ZIII 245/40/18
Wheels: Drag DR31 18x9 +35
Car: 2009 Subaru WRX Premium 5dr
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Dyno Info: Mustang AWD Dyno
Transmission: Stock 5MT
Gear: 3rd
Peak HP at RPM: 330 @ ~5,200
Peak Torque at RPM: 359 @ ~4,200
Baseline hp/tq for a stock WRX on same dyno: unknown
Target Boost: ~18.5psi, +/- 1psi.
Target AFR: unknown - will look up
Fuel: 93oct
Engine Mods:
Cobb AccessPORT (R/T Tuning ProTuned Stage III)
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Agency Power UEL Headers & Uppipe - Swaintech (White Lightning) Ceramic Coated
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TurboXS Catback Exhaust
Injector Dynamics 1000cc Injectors
Deatschwerks DW65c Fuel Pump
Grimmspeed 3-port EBCS
NGK Iridium One Step Colder Spark Plugs


Driveline Mods: Kartboy Short Shifter, Kartboy Shifter Bushings, TiC Shift Linkage Bushings & Pivot Bushings
Suspension Mods: FEAL 441 Coilovers (8k/8k), RCE 25mm Hollow adj. Front Sway Bar, RCE 25mm Hollow adj. Rear Sway Bar, Kartboy Front and Rear Endlinks, Whiteline Rear Camber Adjuster Kit, Whiteline Rear Trailing Arm Bushings, Whiteline Front Inner Control Arm Bushings, Whiteline Anti-Lift Kit, Whiteline Steering Rack Bushings, Whiteline Front Differential Positive Power Kit, GTSPEC Strut Bar



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Old 07-27-2013, 12:02 PM   #2
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Nice numbers
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Old 07-27-2013, 05:53 PM   #3
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great numbers for 93

Did Andy tune it?
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Old 07-27-2013, 08:49 PM   #4
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Yes, Andy tuned it.
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Old 07-27-2013, 09:19 PM   #5
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So the above graph is printout R/T Tuning sent me home with. Here is the final numbers of the last run. This was a cooler run so the numbers were a little better:
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Old 07-27-2013, 09:21 PM   #6
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What is that choppiness in the last dyno graph from?
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Old 07-27-2013, 09:23 PM   #7
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Not really sure. My COBB OTS Stage 2+ map showed a similar choppiness.
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Old 07-27-2013, 11:01 PM   #8
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Nice numbers! That is a feel similar setup that I have.
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Old 07-28-2013, 03:56 AM   #9
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The last graph just has 0 smoothing or close to it. Most of the graphs you see posted have uber smoothing.
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Old 07-28-2013, 01:08 PM   #10
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Are they trying to make it read like a dynojet?
What's the dip in the curve at 4k rpm? Dip in boost or knock?
Spools awfully late for peak torque to be after 4k rpm...
It's too bad that people that don't know any better are getting suckered into the "numbers"
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Old 07-28-2013, 01:42 PM   #11
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Are they trying to make it read like a dynojet?
What's the dip in the curve at 4k rpm? Dip in boost or knock?
Spools awfully late for peak torque to be after 4k rpm...
It's too bad that people that don't know any better are getting suckered into the "numbers"
Their Mustang AWD Dyno has been calibrated to read like their 2WD DynoJet. They've tested it on a number of cars to compare the two and they read less than 1% different.

The torque curve was moved to the right to keep the clutch & trans happy and healthy. My stock clutch hasn't started slipping, but it has fallen victim to the squeak notorious in the 08+ WRX's. Looking to take it to the dealership when I'm due for inspection next month and have them assess the clutch and spot welds on the firewall to determine what should be done first (and whether my extended warranty will cover any of that.)

Your wording in that last sentence is pretty passive aggressive. Choose your words or don't post in my thread. Thanks.
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Old 07-28-2013, 02:20 PM   #12
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Are they trying to make it read like a dynojet?
What's the dip in the curve at 4k rpm? Dip in boost or knock?
Spools awfully late for peak torque to be after 4k rpm...
It's too bad that people that don't know any better are getting suckered into the "numbers"


I can confirm, I am suckered into the numbers.


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Old 07-28-2013, 04:46 PM   #13
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For reference and to add to the discussion, here is my COBB OTS Stage 2+ Dyno graph:


And the new one so you don't have to scroll all the way to the top:
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Old 07-29-2013, 03:42 AM   #14
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How much did all this cost on just the engine mods? You have a pretty well rounded ride for sure... although you MIGHT as well have the STI at this point
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Old 07-29-2013, 08:55 AM   #15
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How much did all this cost on just the engine mods? You have a pretty well rounded ride for sure... although you MIGHT as well have the STI at this point
In the US, you still can't get an STI hatch with a sunroof. Back when I got my car in 2009, they also didn't offer the STI with heated seats either. So I went with the WRX premium even though I could afford an STI. I still have no regrets of that.

And mod for mod, you'd prolly be around the same power level at this point with the WRX or STI. The major benefit of an STI right now would be a stronger trans. But I'm not sold on the gearing of the 08+ STI 6spd. I'd rather do a LGT 6spd swap with the longer gears if/when the time comes. I'll cross that bridge when I get there.

As far as how much money I have into the car, I'm not really sure.
COBB AccessPORT - $519.95
COBB SF Intake & Airbox - $265.00
Process WEST TMIC - $982.00
Forge BPV - $149.00
SPT Heatshield - $69.75
PTP Turbo Blanket - $139.99
Agency Power UEL Headers & Uppipe - $600.00
TurboXS Catted Downpipe - $420.00
Bung - $30.00
Wideband Kit - $158.85
Swaintech Coating - $490.00
TurboXS Catback Exhaust - $549.00
injector Dynamics ID1000cc Injectors - $528.00
Deatschwerks DW65c Fuel Pump - $164.00
Grimmspeed EBCS - $105.95
NGK One Step Colder Plugs - $34.99
ProTune - $500.00

Total: $5,706.48

That's roughly what I've spent. And none of it was all at once. It's been over the span of 4 years. And those are the prices I could come up with right now. Some I got a better deal on. Some of those prices include shipping. Others don't. And most of that does not include the cost of install.
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Old 07-29-2013, 09:30 AM   #16
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Forgive my ignorance but what turbo do these WRXs have as standard?
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Old 07-29-2013, 11:48 AM   #17
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Old 07-29-2013, 02:14 PM   #18
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When you say 'calibrated' I wonder what that actually means. I would imagine the Parasitic Multiplier on this Mustang is higher than 1.0 based on the OTS map results. It would be good to know where a stock car baselines.

Most GRs on a Mustang AWD-500 make between 215-225whp stock and about 275-285whp w an OTS map in my experience.

The dip in the 4000rpm area doesnt seem consequential to me, if it was knock it would drop more power. Its probably just a small boost variance.

Well rounded car though overall, nice setup.

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Old 07-29-2013, 02:24 PM   #19
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In the US, you still can't get an STI hatch with a sunroof. Back when I got my car in 2009, they also didn't offer the STI with heated seats either. So I went with the WRX premium even though I could afford an STI. I still have no regrets of that.

And mod for mod, you'd prolly be around the same power level at this point with the WRX or STI. The major benefit of an STI right now would be a stronger trans. But I'm not sold on the gearing of the 08+ STI 6spd. I'd rather do a LGT 6spd swap with the longer gears if/when the time comes. I'll cross that bridge when I get there.

As far as how much money I have into the car, I'm not really sure.
COBB AccessPORT - $519.95
COBB SF Intake & Airbox - $265.00
Process WEST TMIC - $982.00
Forge BPV - $149.00
SPT Heatshield - $69.75
PTP Turbo Blanket - $139.99
Agency Power UEL Headers & Uppipe - $600.00
TurboXS Catted Downpipe - $420.00
Bung - $30.00
Wideband Kit - $158.85
Swaintech Coating - $490.00
TurboXS Catback Exhaust - $549.00
injector Dynamics ID1000cc Injectors - $528.00
Deatschwerks DW65c Fuel Pump - $164.00
Grimmspeed EBCS - $105.95
NGK One Step Colder Plugs - $34.99
ProTune - $500.00

Total: $5,706.48

That's roughly what I've spent. And none of it was all at once. It's been over the span of 4 years. And those are the prices I could come up with right now. Some I got a better deal on. Some of those prices include shipping. Others don't. And most of that does not include the cost of install.
Nice setup and good results!

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When you say 'calibrated' I wonder what that actually means. I would imagine the Parasitic Multiplier on this Mustang is higher than 1.0 based on the OTS map results. It would be good to know where a stock car baselines.

Most GRs on a Mustang AWD-500 make between 215-225whp stock and about 275-285whp w an OTS map in my experience.

The dip in the 4000rpm area doesnt seem consequential to me, if it was knock it would drop more power. Its probably just a small boost variance.

Well rounded car though overall, nice setup.

M@
COBB has a public dyno database. Their baselines are usually 235-245WHP. I pulled this a while ago:

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Here are the results from COBB's baseline dyno runs (as posted on their site):

STI, 2008, 233/253, Barnes, Andrew
STI, 2008, 239/258, COBB Tuning
STI, 2008, 247/245, Hoffman, Aran
STI, 2008, 245/242, Motorsports, Performance
STI, 2008, 236/238, Pickett, Rob
STI, 2009, 243/245, Diens, Tim
STI, 2010, 228/239, COBB Tuning
STI, 2010, 226/240, Pentimonti, Tony
STI, 2011, 236/227, Mitchell, Mario
STI, 2011, 250/254, Pease, Dave
STI, 2011, 251/255, COBB Tuning
STI, 2008+, 239/245, AVERAGE

WRX, 2009, 231/239, Brackenbrough, Mike
WRX, 2009, 241/239, Braun, Jeremy
WRX, 2009, 233/248, Keenan, MJ
WRX, 2010, 244/258, COBB Tuning
WRX, 2010, 244/258, Branen, Charles
WRX, 2010, 246/259, Gill, Evan
WRX, 2011, 223/255, COBB Tuning
WRX, 2011, 251/255, Miller, Josh
WRX, 2011, 218/251, Vonali, Ritter
WRX, 2009+, 237/251, AVERAGE
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2009 WRX 2.5L COBB ProTune Stage 3 93oct. 336whp/370wtq

Date: March 4th, 2014
Event: COBB ProTune Dyno
Location: R/T Tuning, Lansdale, PA
Ambient Temp: 28*F
Elevation: 361'
Weather: Partly Cloudy, Winds SSW @ 2mph
Humidity: 25%
Barometric Pressure: 30.33in.
Tires: Bridegstone Blizzak WS60 215/50/17
Wheels: XXR 527 17x8.25 +25
Car: 2009 Subaru WRX Premium 5dr
Tuner: R/T Tuning
Dyno Info: Mustang AWD Dyno
Transmission: Stock 5MT
Gear: 3rd
Peak HP at RPM: 336 @ ~5,700
Peak Torque at RPM: 370 @ ~3,800
Baseline hp/tq for a stock WRX on same dyno: unknown
Target Boost: ~18.5psi, +/- 1psi.
Target AFR: unknown
Fuel: 93oct
Engine Mods: COBB AccessPORT (Stage 3 93oct. custom tune), COBB SF Intake & Airbox Combo, Process West TMIC, Forge Recirculating BPV, Swaintech Ceramic Coated Agency Power UEL Headers & Uppipe, PTP Turbo Blanket, SPT & OEM Turbo Heat Shield, Swaintech Ceramic Coated TurboXS High Flow Catted Downpipe, TurboXS Catback Exhaust, Injector Dynamics ID1000's Fuel Injectors, Deatschwerks DW65c Fuel Pump, Grimmspeed 3-port EBCS
Driveline Mods: Clutchmasters FX300 Stage 3 Clutch Kit, Kartboy Short Shifter, Kartboy Shifter Bushings, TiC Shift Linkage Bushings & Pivot Bushings
Suspension Mods: FEAL 441 Coilovers (8k/8k), RCE 25mm Hollow adj. Front Sway Bar, RCE 25mm Hollow adj. Rear Sway Bar, Kartboy Front and Rear Endlinks, Whiteline Rear Camber Adjuster Kit, Whiteline Rear Trailing Arm Bushings, Whiteline Front Inner Control Arm Bushings, Whiteline Anti-Lift Kit, Whiteline Steering Rack Bushings, Whiteline Front Differential Positive Power Kit, GTSPEC Strut Bar

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crazy high numbers for 93 and only 18.5 psi... super moon dyno
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Stock turbo and UELs putting out 370wtq on 93. Wow. That is a nice run.

Guess 28 degrees F helps too.

Curious with that fuel pump and 1000cc injectors what % of the cycle were that at on that run?
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Old 03-04-2014, 08:33 PM   #23
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crazy high numbers for 93 and only 18.5 psi... super moon dyno
It's an accurate Dyno and those numbers are to be expected on 09+ WRX's / 08+ STI's with the mods listed. There's a handful of other threads in the proven power bragging section substantiating that.

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Stock turbo and UELs putting out 370wtq on 93. Wow. That is a nice run.

Guess 28 degrees F helps too.

Curious with that fuel pump and 1000cc injectors what % of the cycle were that at on that run?
The temps without a doubt were in our favor for the numbers game. I have no idea the answer of your question. Sorry. I could ask my tuner.
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It's an accurate Dyno and those numbers are to be expected on 09+ WRX's / 08+ STI's with the mods listed. There's a handful of other threads in the proven power bragging section substantiating that.


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your #s on 93 are exactly what i did on e85, we have almost the same mods, minus headers. my latest pump with the ewg were damn close, minus the tq#, which i think is def high. either way im sure the car rips! how are you liking that clutch? thats the one everyone seems to get..
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your #s on 93 are exactly what i did on e85, we have almost the same mods, minus headers. my latest pump with the ewg were damn close, minus the tq#, which i think is def high. either way im sure the car rips! how are you liking that clutch? thats the one everyone seems to get..
Love these threads.

Clutch has been great. My car was plagued with a super stiff stock clutch from the factory so this is delightfully softer than my terrible stock clutch. Had all the firewall issues most people are experiencing at my mileage.
I would definitely recommend it. A great price. Performs very well and acts very predictably. Can't beat it.
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