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Old 08-12-2011, 04:10 AM   #4201
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I'll use whatever you guys recommend.

On my parts list is a banjo bolt for the turbo and the bolts for the fuel rails. I'm really hoping that's all I need.
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Old 08-12-2011, 12:57 PM   #4202
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honestly, any water remover will do just fine. there is a possibility that the ethanol actually acts as a water remover since the water will bond to the ethanol and then the ethanol will bond to the gasoline...BUT...i would stick a water remover in there just to be safe. most any water remover from the autoparts store or walmart will do just fine.
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Old 08-12-2011, 02:45 PM   #4203
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lucas oil makes a good product specifically for e85 called safeguard.
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Old 08-12-2011, 02:48 PM   #4204
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What happens if u pour water remover in a glass of water?
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Old 08-12-2011, 02:52 PM   #4205
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What happens if u pour water remover in a glass of water?
You just figured out how to be a magician.
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Old 08-12-2011, 03:26 PM   #4206
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You just figured out how to be a magician.
This^^^
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Old 08-14-2011, 12:08 AM   #4207
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OK, so I finally got around to logging the 50-100mph pulls that I had talked about a while back. I decided this was the best range to use. Seems the most fair to all of the transmissions. I did it from a 30mph roll so my turbo was spooled up when I hit 50mph. Some might not agree with this, but I think it's the most consistent way. Basically just get from 50-100mph as fast as possible: use whatever gears you'd like, brake boost, start slower and go WOT through 50mph, etc. Just keep it to a flat surface and you're good.

I'll start with my numbers, and some that I pulled with my brother's 2011 MS3 that is Stage 2. If I can get a few more people from this thread to post up their results, then I'll create a separate thread in PPB to try to get a full NASIOC list going. I tried to make a format for the entries. Let me know if I missed anything relevant. It would also be good to post a log or a plot.

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Vehicle: 2011 WRX
Motor: Stock
Turbo: Stock
Transmission: Stock 5 Speed
Redline: Stock
Upgrades: Stage 2 + E85 Tune
Weight: Full Stock Weight + Driver and Passenger
50-100MPH: 7.52sec

Vehicle: 2011 MS3
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Redline: Stock
Upgrades: Stage 2
Weight: Full Stock Weight + Driver and Passenger
50-100MPH: 9.22sec
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Old 08-14-2011, 01:06 AM   #4208
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Old 08-15-2011, 12:00 PM   #4209
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i like where this is going.^^^

just for fun...

David Wolfe Drag Radial Twin Turbo Mustang 6.57sec!!! - YouTube
that thing is moving. It's very drama free with an auto trans though.
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Old 08-15-2011, 12:11 PM   #4210
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Vehicle: 2011 WRX
Motor: Stock
Turbo: Stock
Transmission: Stock 5 Speed
Redline: Stock
Upgrades: Stage 2 + E85 Tune
Weight: Full Stock Weight + Driver and Passenger
50-100MPH: 7.52sec

Vehicle: 2011 MS3
Motor: Stock
Turbo: Stock
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Redline: Stock
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Weight: Full Stock Weight + Driver and Passenger
50-100MPH: 9.22sec
Airboy calculates these times automatically from a log. I think it would be easier to use them. There is no shifting involve.

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50-80mph, sec 2.34
60-80mph, sec 1.46
3-6k rpm, sec 3.63
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Old 08-15-2011, 12:15 PM   #4211
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Airboy calculates these times automatically from a log. I think it would be easier to use them. There is no shifting involve.

if I leave it in 3rd, I don't have to shift... and it still takes about 4 seconds.
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Old 08-15-2011, 12:18 PM   #4212
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if I leave it in 3rd, I don't have to shift... and it still takes about 4 seconds.
you and your 2.3L .....

I can get about 97mph in 3rd with my 7.5K redline
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Old 08-15-2011, 12:21 PM   #4213
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you and your 2.3L .....

I can get about 97mph in 3rd with my 7.5K redline

lol. Mine is technically a 2.5 (102.3mm x 75mm)
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Old 08-15-2011, 12:37 PM   #4214
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i think im gonna go with a long rod motor too!
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Old 08-15-2011, 12:42 PM   #4215
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im liking the idea as well.

stroke a 2.0 block with sti crank rods and proper pistons...

destroke a bored out 2.5 with sti crank and sti rods with proper pistons...

i hear there is a level of difficulty with assembling a stroker motor...dom has mastered it?
something about access to the piston to install the rod/piston pin, c clips.
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Old 08-15-2011, 12:53 PM   #4216
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Airboy calculates these times automatically from a log. I think it would be easier to use them. There is no shifting involve.
Interesting. I didn't know the spreadsheets did that. I initially wanted to pick a range that would all be included in a log, but that's just such a small range, and the fact that a single gear and small portion of the powerband will greatly favor some setups over other setups.

For example, if you have a 5 speed and your turbo doesn't spool until 5k, then a 50-80mph in 3rd gear will probably be out of the powerband the whole time. I thought that a wider range, like 50-100mph, and the use of any gears you'd like, would be more of an even playing field.

I'd really be interested in seeing what other cars can do the 50-100mph in (and to compare that to power). Idk, just a thought. If we could get some more people to post logs, then I'd move this out to the main PPB section to try to get a bigger list going, but right now it doesn't seem like enough interest in making the logs.
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Old 08-15-2011, 01:56 PM   #4217
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destroke a bored out 2.5 with sti crank and sti rods with proper pistons...
This is what I'm planning.
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Old 08-15-2011, 02:30 PM   #4218
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im liking the idea as well.

stroke a 2.0 block with sti crank rods and proper pistons...

destroke a bored out 2.5 with sti crank and sti rods with proper pistons...

i hear there is a level of difficulty with assembling a stroker motor...dom has mastered it?
something about access to the piston to install the rod/piston pin, c clips.
You can't line up the rods with the hole in the block to put the wrist pins in, so you have to leave the case halves split while you install the pistons, wrist pins and clips. Then after you have the pistons locked in you can bolt the case halves together.
I think the hardest part would be applying sealant to the case, and making sure the crank bearings dont fall out.

I'll be building one if my 2.5 I just built decides to go tits up early.
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Old 08-15-2011, 04:24 PM   #4219
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im liking the idea as well.

stroke a 2.0 block with sti crank rods and proper pistons...

destroke a bored out 2.5 with sti crank and sti rods with proper pistons...

i hear there is a level of difficulty with assembling a stroker motor...dom has mastered it?
something about access to the piston to install the rod/piston pin, c clips.
by STi crank and pistons I assume you mean EJ207 for the destroker.

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You can't line up the rods with the hole in the block to put the wrist pins in, so you have to leave the case halves split while you install the pistons, wrist pins and clips. Then after you have the pistons locked in you can bolt the case halves together.
I think the hardest part would be applying sealant to the case, and making sure the crank bearings dont fall out.
pretty close to that. We do a few other things to speed up the process and do some assembly out of the normal order of things.
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Old 08-15-2011, 06:07 PM   #4220
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What's up fellas? I have a question. I swapped out the fuel pump on my 2010 Rex and tore one of the o rings in the fp housing. Besides dealer any suggestions on where to get one? Gracias. Obviously fuel grade.
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Old 08-15-2011, 06:10 PM   #4221
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I believe all the o-rings that are inside the housing, aka the few lines that plug in around the housing as well as the o-ring around the actual pump output itself, are all the same size.

Part #2-12093 at napa
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Old 08-15-2011, 06:17 PM   #4222
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I thought so too, however visibly slightly larger. Also 2 different part numbers via SOA. I appreciate your help anyway.
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Old 08-15-2011, 07:29 PM   #4223
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you should shoot for higher than 9:1 compression. i had mine at 9.3:1 on my first build. i liked it alot better than stock, and on my current motor i am running 9.77:1. i LOVE the higher compression for daily driving.
Qft. I've ridden in 2 different 10:1 e85 evos plus my roommates 9:1 evo and the difference is amazing. I'm building a new high comp, sleeved e85 motor this winter and going with 100mm ~10:1 pistons. I haven't made up my mind on the stroke though. I'm going back and forth between destroked 2.3 or stock stroke 2.5 with a Precision 6265. The gt4094r is just too laggy for my taste.
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Old 08-16-2011, 05:10 PM   #4224
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No one else wants to log a 50-100mph run?
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Old 08-16-2011, 05:14 PM   #4225
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I'll probably do one on thursday when I finish the E85 tune. I need to get a tactrix cable of my own. Question on that, am I allowed to start lower than 50 so I can be full boost by 50mph, or is it a rule that I need to be at 50 then floor it?
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