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Old 02-13-2012, 02:52 PM   #5226
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Anybody else having trouble finding e85 over the last couple days? I have two stations near my house that carry e85. One has been out for over two weeks, and the other has been out of it for about a week. The station owner told me that his cost went up to $3.25/gal !! I'll be switching back to my 93oct map tonight

Mid summer the price E85 became more expensive than 87 here in STL. I switched back to 93 a long time ago. $3.19/gal for the last year for E85. while 93 has fluctuated from $3.19-3.79. Its been headed up the last few months, but I wont burn the winter blend.

Here is to hoping 93 skyrockets this summer to make E85 justifiable.
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Old 02-13-2012, 09:05 PM   #5227
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Oh nos this make me sad
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Old 02-13-2012, 11:07 PM   #5228
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FYI for any 08+ WRX running higher boost:

The Omni Power MAP Sensor for the Toyota Supra is a direct drop in for our cars.



More info here:

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2310334
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Old 02-14-2012, 06:44 PM   #5229
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How much are the 850's? I've heard mixed reviews on five-0's, ure opinion on them?
I have been running Five-0 ev14 850 top feeds for about a year now on both pump98 and E85 and they have been running like a charm, very easy to tune for and holds target AFR at idle and on boost. No issues and hiighly recommended.

On that note, i have made the switch to E85 and its sweet !

However consumption is shocking, any further tips or info on reducing in closed loop mode?
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Old 02-14-2012, 07:45 PM   #5230
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I have been running Five-0 ev14 850 top feeds for about a year now on both pump98 and E85 and they have been running like a charm, very easy to tune for and holds target AFR at idle and on boost. No issues and hiighly recommended.

On that note, i have made the switch to E85 and its sweet !

However consumption is shocking, any further tips or info on reducing in closed loop mode?
^^ thank u sir^^^
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Old 02-15-2012, 02:57 AM   #5231
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I just ordered five-o 1400cc denso topfeed injectors. If my calculations are correct those are good to go with E85 and my current setup.

I cant wait to install and start tuning. Is there other users with those 1400cc denso injectors out there? How are they working?
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Old 02-15-2012, 06:45 PM   #5232
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Anyone running these? or have any feedback ? i need larger injectors

Bosch EV14 based 2200cc versions:
http://www.fiveomotorsport.com/0280158821-wrx-2200cc

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the Denso EV6 based 2000cc versions:
http://www.fiveomotorsport.com/2000c...tom-import-fit
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Old 02-15-2012, 07:28 PM   #5233
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I posted a video of them in the last 10-20 posts. Crystal Imprezav is running them
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Old 02-15-2012, 07:49 PM   #5234
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I posted a video of them in the last 10-20 posts. Crystal Imprezav is running them
Yeah i sent him a PM and he never replied.
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Old 02-15-2012, 08:15 PM   #5235
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Mikes got a set too, I'll tell him to hurry up and install them
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Old 02-15-2012, 08:32 PM   #5236
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So i want to take advantage of the e85 shell station down the road, and just want to see what you guys think about this.

I have a a clutch thats going so im going to be replacing the following

Exedy stg 1 or the FJK1001
Group N tranny mount
Shifter bushings front and rear
crossmember mounts
steering rack bushing

Also since i figured i was having my tuner working on my car i would have him install this also.

750cc injectors
255 walbro FP
Ebc grimmspeed

and then tuning for e85

Cars currently stg 2 2006 wrx with 63k miles.

Safe for the stock tranny? dont have the money to replace.
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Old 02-15-2012, 08:38 PM   #5237
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Just have him keep the low rpm boost and/or timing down to keep the torque down and don't shift like a jackass.
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Old 02-15-2012, 08:44 PM   #5238
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Just have him keep the low rpm boost and/or timing down to keep the torque down and don't shift like a jackass.

Roger Roger. Honestly i take care of my car like its my unborn infant child. My girlfriend hates it. Just want to make some more power, safely. Currently a college student that is addicted to his subaru.

Wanna make sure with the clutch im getting it will hold the power and not strip gears or something, so im still iffy on the stg1 or fjk1001
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Old 02-15-2012, 09:09 PM   #5239
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Hey Guys, to give you some context, I am looking to up the ante on fuel system.
Currently running a set of Five-0 EV14 850cc injectors with an aeromotive FPR, and an intank Aeromotive Stealth 340 fuel pump on stock lines and rails on a built motors running a GTX3076R.
Essentially maxed the setup out on E85 and had to dial in an extra 10psi over base fuel pressure with the FPR to make about 430whp~ US equivilent, with 22psi of boost. However still hitting target AFR. Both pump and injectors are maxed so i will be switching to a dual pump setup in tank, however the injectors i am tossing up between are the Five-0 Denso EV6 2000cc or the Five-0 Bosch 2200cc versions, or should i stick with the EV14 style injectors such as the 1200's and up rail pressure with those.

So which would you choose from Five-0, bearing in mind i will have twin aeromotive 340's supplying the rails.

0. Stick with the EV14 850's
1. EV14 1200's
2. Denso EV6 1600's
3. Denso EV6 2000's or
4. Bosch 2200's
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Old 02-16-2012, 09:30 AM   #5240
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Roger Roger. Honestly i take care of my car like its my unborn infant child. My girlfriend hates it. Just want to make some more power, safely. Currently a college student that is addicted to his subaru.

Wanna make sure with the clutch im getting it will hold the power and not strip gears or something, so im still iffy on the stg1 or fjk1001
99% of the driveline parts I see fail are due to shock loads. Don't shift super fast and dump the clutch and you can make your 5MT last a long time.
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Old 02-16-2012, 09:57 AM   #5241
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Roger Roger. Honestly i take care of my car like its my unborn infant child. My girlfriend hates it. Just want to make some more power, safely. Currently a college student that is addicted to his subaru.

Wanna make sure with the clutch im getting it will hold the power and not strip gears or something, so im still iffy on the stg1 or fjk1001
also, in regards to the clutch...the life won't last as long, but the stock or just above stock clutch should hold just fine if you are looking to be as gentle on the drivetrain as possible. i know plenty of people putting down 350+whp that continue to put stock clutches (or the organic versions of them) on and run just fine. now you won't be able to get the 50,000 miles out of it like you could at the lower power levels, and it won't grab like a stronger clutch will...but it will probably hold everything shy of heavy launches just fine for probably 20,000 miles or so...

...personally though...i would be very careful about increasing power if you don't have the money for the transmission or if you can't afford to go without your car for a while until it is fixed. i know from personal experience that even with the super under-rated clutch, driving nicely without launching, and everything possible to help the gears that sometimes they still will break. not saying that your's will, but just saying that the possibility is there. even the "unbreakable" PPG's break unexplainably sometimes...even at power levels below what they are rated to so...just keep all that in mind as you are increasing power...
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Old 02-16-2012, 02:23 PM   #5242
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Anybody else having trouble finding e85 over the last couple days? I have two stations near my house that carry e85. One has been out for over two weeks, and the other has been out of it for about a week. The station owner told me that his cost went up to $3.25/gal !! I'll be switching back to my 93oct map tonight
Where in SC are you. Around here, Spinx controls 99% of the E85. I came here to ask if anywhere else in the country are the prices of E85 closing with 87. It's 5-6 cents difference here. Last year it was 25 or so. What gives, I don't believe the subsidies have run out yet I will have to do more research on that.
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Old 02-16-2012, 03:37 PM   #5243
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Yeah, I think the subsidies are gone. In MN there's still about $0.40-$0.50 difference between E85 and regular (87) pump gas. That used to be about $0.70 a few months ago. I've noticed that in less populated areas the price between pump gas and E85 is much closer. My local stations seem to be some of the better E85 prices I've seen.
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Old 02-16-2012, 03:57 PM   #5244
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Where in SC are you. Around here, Spinx controls 99% of the E85. I came here to ask if anywhere else in the country are the prices of E85 closing with 87. It's 5-6 cents difference here. Last year it was 25 or so. What gives, I don't believe the subsidies have run out yet I will have to do more research on that.
at least is cheaper than 93oct
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Old 02-16-2012, 04:17 PM   #5245
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at least is cheaper than 93oct
Yeah, but 16~mpg sucks at the cost it's at now. Don't get me wrong, the car's power is so much more smooth on it... but read this (the part about Spinx)

http://www.cspnet.com/news/fuels/articles/e85-rocks
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Old 02-16-2012, 05:49 PM   #5246
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FYI for any 08+ WRX running higher boost:

The Omni Power MAP Sensor for the Toyota Supra is a direct drop in for our cars.



More info here:

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2310334
i normally dont post or look in here but i think it was god's will for me to look at the e85 thread

thanks
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Old 02-16-2012, 06:14 PM   #5247
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Hey Guys, to give you some context, I am looking to up the ante on fuel system.
Currently running a set of Five-0 EV14 850cc injectors with an aeromotive FPR, and an intank Aeromotive Stealth 340 fuel pump on stock lines and rails on a built motors running a GTX3076R.
Essentially maxed the setup out on E85 and had to dial in an extra 10psi over base fuel pressure with the FPR to make about 430whp~ US equivilent, with 22psi of boost. However still hitting target AFR. Both pump and injectors are maxed so i will be switching to a dual pump setup in tank, however the injectors i am tossing up between are the Five-0 Denso EV6 2000cc or the Five-0 Bosch 2200cc versions, or should i stick with the EV14 style injectors such as the 1200's and up rail pressure with those.

So which would you choose from Five-0, bearing in mind i will have twin aeromotive 340's supplying the rails.

0. Stick with the EV14 850's
1. EV14 1200's
2. Denso EV6 1600's
3. Denso EV6 2000's or
4. Bosch 2200's

No love ?
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Old 02-16-2012, 06:16 PM   #5248
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I think it is ridiculous to compare E85 prices to pump gas. If anything, you should be comparing it to race gas. Even if E85 cost twice as much as pump gas, and my gas mileage was twice as bad, I would still run it for the performance and engine safety benefits.
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Old 02-16-2012, 07:15 PM   #5249
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The problem is, when E85 costs as much as pump gas, the gas stations won't /don't sell E85 anymore.
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^^^ This, When I can only get it in a handful of stations and they're nowhere close to where I work or live. Then it really is self defeating.

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Stewart Spinks, the founder and CEO of the Spinx Corp., Greenville, S.C., told CSP Daily News he remains dedicated to E85, joking, "It's better to support the Corn Belt than the Sand Belt," referring to the Middle East.

At the same time, the chain plans to convert 10 of its 41 E85 pumps to straight 87 octane gasoline by end of January, in light of ethanol price increases. The company saw a "tremendous" increase at the rack in early January, reflecting the loss of VEETC. Thus lower-volume sites, where E85 has not taken off, will be converted.

"I don't want to send the message that we're no longer interested in alternative fuels, but from an economic point of view, the volumes are too low to continue to offer it," he said. "The consumer is saying we want ethanol-free gasoline available."

While earlier in 2011, Spinx was able to sell E85 at a 40-cent differential to regular gasoline, the stores will likely be forced to shrink that spread to 10 to 20 cents.
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