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Old 08-22-2012, 09:28 AM   #6176
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I assume all of you guys are on the XD pressure plate? I wish that was available for the newer WRX's. I'm guessing I could use that in conjunction with a less aggressive disk and it would still hold.
I have the HD not the XD...i think with the XD the extra pedal weight would make the 6 puck miserable on a DD
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Old 08-22-2012, 09:33 AM   #6177
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I have the XD and the organic disc its holding over 500ftlbs at the wheels with no issues. I've gotten 1.5x 60' times out of it.
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Old 08-22-2012, 10:18 AM   #6178
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I have the XD and the organic disc its holding over 500ftlbs at the wheels with no issues. I've gotten 1.5x 60' times out of it.
Maybe I should have done this
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Old 08-22-2012, 10:34 AM   #6179
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Yeah, I think that would be my ideal setup. The HD pressure plate (only one offered for my car) and organic disk slipped the first day at ~490ftlbs.
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Old 08-22-2012, 10:54 AM   #6180
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Are there any good e85 safe surge tanks out there besides the radium one? i'm working on designing my fuel system upgrade for this coming winter and have spent countless hours trying to find the surge tank...i'd like to run 2 external 044's but it seems like im going to be making my own, or buying radium's (which i really dont like the design of)

http://www.intengineering.com/integr...ith-pumps.html

http://shop.edoperformance.com/proce...i-p-12134.html

Or contact MSI, or TigWerks
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Old 08-22-2012, 11:30 AM   #6181
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Maybe I should have done this
I had the 6 puck disc first but it wore quickly because I was always slipping it to prevent launching it all the time.

This disc is much more driver friendly and has shown to hold the power
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Old 08-22-2012, 11:38 AM   #6182
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I have the HD not the XD...i think with the XD the extra pedal weight would make the 6 puck miserable on a DD

i honestly didn't mind it at all on the XD 6 puck. anytime i was going to sit in traffic or at a light, i would just shift to neutral and let the clutch out. plus, as soon as you hit the gas, all worries or irritations about the car go away when you hit 60mph in 3 sec .
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Old 08-22-2012, 11:44 AM   #6183
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I had the 6 puck disc first but it wore quickly because I was always slipping it to prevent launching it all the time.

This disc is much more driver friendly and has shown to hold the power
Can you quantify "quickly" as in miles? How bad did it chew up your flywheel? I'm on a Carbonetics blade style disc with the HD PP. It isn't bad most of the time, but it can be annoyingly grabby if I get it too hot.
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Old 08-22-2012, 11:49 AM   #6184
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Maybe I should have done this
He has a STi transmission so his disk has more surface area than the WRX disk therefore more torque capacity.

I am on my second 6-puck, the first one drove amazing and when I pulled the engine after 27k miles it still have meat left on it. The one that I have right now has a little more shutter but I still love it.
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Old 08-22-2012, 11:49 AM   #6185
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Can you quantify "quickly" as in miles? How bad did it chew up your flywheel? I'm on a Carbonetics blade style disc with the HD PP. It isn't bad most of the time, but it can be annoyingly grabby if I get it too hot.
the 6puck gets the 'grabby' feeling when its hot too, or atleast i notice it does. i have only had mine for 6k HARD miles and its not too warn, but when i start in first i slip it as quick as possible
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Old 08-22-2012, 11:57 AM   #6186
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i like the thought behind the integrated one, but the question i have is, how are the 044's going to take to being submerged in e85 over the long haul

the process west is ridiculous money

part of me says suck it up and just make one, the other part of me like the idea of just buying it and being done with it
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Old 08-22-2012, 12:00 PM   #6187
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I have the HDSS, I was worried about the thrust force at startup with the XD pressure plate, and I didn't want to eliminate the neutral safety switch.
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Old 08-22-2012, 12:06 PM   #6188
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Can you quantify "quickly" as in miles? How bad did it chew up your flywheel? I'm on a Carbonetics blade style disc with the HD PP. It isn't bad most of the time, but it can be annoyingly grabby if I get it too hot.
I do have the 6-speed.
I pulled it after 15k and it was nearly gone.
The flywheel and pressure plate still looked great. I just threw in a new disc and have had no issues.
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Old 08-23-2012, 12:49 AM   #6189
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Hd pressure plate, 6 puck.... 04 6 speed. Me likey.
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Old 08-23-2012, 01:21 AM   #6190
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I assume all of you guys are on the XD pressure plate? I wish that was available for the newer WRX's. I'm guessing I could use that in conjunction with a less aggressive disk and it would still hold.
I'm running the spec stage 3 plus. Its a heavy duty pp with street disk. Held up greaat on my old 35r setup. I am reusing same clutch on my new stroked ej22t and pt5857. Drives great on the skreet with no chatter. Has never slipped. Clutch had 30k on it when I pulled out for my new build. Still had plenty of meat left on it so I'm reusing it. Best clutch I've ever had. Will buy another when time comes.
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Old 08-27-2012, 04:24 PM   #6191
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Just realized I never posted a dyno sheet on here. The mods are:
Rotated gt3076r .82 hotside
Dw 1100 cc injectors
Tgv deletes
Boomba fuel rails
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And other goodies I'm forgetting to add

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Old 08-27-2012, 09:24 PM   #6192
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Just realized I never posted a dyno sheet on here. The mods are:
Rotated gt3076r .82 hotside
Dw 1100 cc injectors
Tgv deletes
Boomba fuel rails
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Rotated intake
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Nice bro!
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Old 08-28-2012, 05:24 PM   #6193
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Hello everyone,

I just got tuned earlier this month with my new motor and upgraded turbo. While my car was on the dyno I could see my boost gauge hit 29psi, but my tuners equipment was only reading 25psi I checked my gauge against my AP and the gauge is correct I'm tuned at 28.8psi and sometimes on a cold night I'll be in the 29's.

Now a month later I have noticed that my afr's have leaned out from 11.7 to 12.5. While on the dyno we drained the 91 out and poured in 10 gallons of e85. So I assume that the actual mixture was closer to e70 (just a wild guess) and now that it has gone through a few tanks the E content is much higher and the car has leaned out.

Is my boost level safe? just forged pistons and rods with arp headstuds nothing too fancy with the block. and should I be contacting my tuner and asking him to adjust my tune for a richer afr?

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Old 08-28-2012, 06:58 PM   #6194
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It really depends how aggressively it's tuned. It wouldn't hurt to talk to the tuner. If you can log it just check for knock.
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Old 08-28-2012, 07:04 PM   #6195
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I like to be lil leaner on E anyways! Im tuned @ 12.0 E85... But actually my E is bout 70%. So higher concentration that much leaner the car will run!
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Old 08-28-2012, 07:47 PM   #6196
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talk to your tuner and ask him if dialing in 1 more lb. of fuel pressure at the regulator will correct it(I think it will).If it does then when the e content drops all you will have to do is pull that 1 psi out at the fpr and you are good.Lot easier than having to go thru the whole tune again and the fpr increase will help across the whole map.
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Old 08-28-2012, 09:20 PM   #6197
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talk to your tuner and ask him if dialing in 1 more lb. of fuel pressure at the regulator will correct it(I think it will).If it does then when the e content drops all you will have to do is pull that 1 psi out at the fpr and you are good.Lot easier than having to go thru the whole tune again and the fpr increase will help across the whole map.

That's my plan when map switching from 93 to e85. I have an ECA, wideband, and fuel pressure gauge so it shouldn't be too hard to dial it in with the FPR.
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Old 08-28-2012, 09:51 PM   #6198
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^ doing it this way will kind of work, but it isn't going to be super accurate because certain parts of the fueling needs to be changed differently than other parts of the fueling (cranking tables specifically).

also, once you get it to work this way, you are going to see a much larger drop in fuel economy and very little gain in power because you aren't changing the timing or boost at all. the increase in the low end grunt is what keeps the mpg up a little bit so...if you remove that increase in low end grunt, the mpg drop is going to be pretty significant. you kind of are removing all of the benefits of even switching to e85 by only dialing it in with the fpr.

basically, i am saying what would be the point of switching if you aren't going to gain anything.
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Old 08-28-2012, 09:52 PM   #6199
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That is an excellent idea! I will have to ask that. I made an appt for Friday but doing this would be much easier.

Uh oh looks like we have a debate on our hands
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Old 08-28-2012, 09:57 PM   #6200
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no no...no debate in your case. this idea works perfectly for you. i am talking about changing zero tables in the ecu and just dialing the e85 swap in by using the fpr only.
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