The E85 Army Thread - Page 263

maxpowr · 10-19-2012, 09:48 PM

OEM pistons?

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jnorth85 · 10-20-2012, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by maxpowr

OEM pistons?

I am personally making over 500 on oem pistons with E85

Maxwell Power · 10-20-2012, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by maxpowr

OEM pistons?

Yes. The brz is 12.5:1 from the factory.
The whole engine is stock minus the bolt ons. It ran an 11.3 in the quarter.

juanmedina · 10-20-2012, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Maxwell Power

Yes. The brz is 12.5:1 from the factory.
The whole engine is stock minus the bolt ons. It ran an 11.3 in the quarter.

The brz/fr-s are making 540whp dynojet this days on the 100% stock motor

karlknaupp · 10-20-2012, 02:00 PM

Which is crazy sick!! need some of that power.

maxpowr · 10-20-2012, 02:29 PM

guess we will see how long it lasts at that power level.

Junior2JZ · 10-20-2012, 02:40 PM

STI can and have made the same power on stock motors as well.

jnorth85 · 10-20-2012, 09:44 PM

E85 is a very safe fuel with out the fear of detonation you can really push the stock motor.

sackytar · 10-21-2012, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by maxpowr

guess we will see how long it lasts at that power level.

Yeah that's a lot of boom for a stock engine.

Matt_H · 10-21-2012, 10:23 AM

Looking for some advice here...

I'm in the process of having a motor done and will be switching over to E85, but also still have the ability to run 93 after draining the tank/lines etc.

Right now I have a DW65C (265 lph) pump, modded top feeds for fuel modifications.

With the new build I plan on running 1600cc injectors, I have a Areomotive FPR and not sure what to do with feeding the injectors. I've seen surge tanks, inline pumps, dual pumps etc. I'm not sure if I should have the DW pump feeding a surge, feeding a single pump or what.

The new setup includes:
3MI 2.35 motor
Fully build heads
GTX3582R
Flipped Cosie manifold
GT Spec exhaust manifold
Fuel rails (not purchased yet, brand recommendations?)
1600cc injectors (not purchased yet, brand recommendations?)
Areomotive FPR

My car will be a weekend/fun car and might see a 1/4 a few times a year. Looking to make big power on the new setup. I was making 430whp before I lost compression on 93 and this will be the first time running E85.

TickTack · 10-21-2012, 11:31 AM

I only got a few hundred miles on my new build, but I had good luck with the fiveo 1600cc top feed injectors (http://www.fiveomotorsport.com/1600c...import-fit-wrx) and aeromotive fuel rails. I made my own lines using Aeroquip hose and fittings. I'd recommend using new top o-rings rather than the ones included with the injectors (there's a mcmaster p/n floating around). As far as pump, I'm running out of fuel from my hardwired DW300 at around 510whp. I'll be trying a walbro460 this fall before going to a surge tank/external pump setup next summer.

sackytar · 10-21-2012, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt_H

Looking for some advice here...

I'm in the process of having a motor done and will be switching over to E85, but also still have the ability to run 93 after draining the tank/lines etc.

Right now I have a DW65C (265 lph) pump, modded top feeds for fuel modifications.

With the new build I plan on running 1600cc injectors, I have a Areomotive FPR and not sure what to do with feeding the injectors. I've seen surge tanks, inline pumps, dual pumps etc. I'm not sure if I should have the DW pump feeding a surge, feeding a single pump or what.

The new setup includes:
3MI 2.35 motor
Fully build heads
GTX3582R
Flipped Cosie manifold
GT Spec exhaust manifold
Fuel rails (not purchased yet, brand recommendations?)
1600cc injectors (not purchased yet, brand recommendations?)
Areomotive FPR

My car will be a weekend/fun car and might see a 1/4 a few times a year. Looking to make big power on the new setup. I was making 430whp before I lost compression on 93 and this will be the first time running E85.

I will say that I ran 2 sets of 50 1000cc Injectors and they ran horrible both sets. I had a 3rd mailed to me but refused to put them in. I got some ID1000s and put them in Tuesday and car idles great and i am had no issues.

With the 50 injectors I had misfires all over the place. And the part that tucks I the fuel rail was deteriorating.

I learned my lesson with them.

Mayhem tuning (Cory) is in the process of tweaking them out now. And they are night and day. Do the Injector Dynamics.

Matt_H · 10-21-2012, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TickTack

I only got a few hundred miles on my new build, but I had good luck with the fiveo 1600cc top feed injectors (http://www.fiveomotorsport.com/1600c...import-fit-wrx) and aeromotive fuel rails. I made my own lines using Aeroquip hose and fittings. I'd recommend using new top o-rings rather than the ones included with the injectors (there's a mcmaster p/n floating around). As far as pump, I'm running out of fuel from my hardwired DW300 at around 510whp. I'll be trying a walbro460 this fall before going to a surge tank/external pump setup next summer.

I saw the FiveO were hit or miss, seemed like there were more common with people having problems with them. I was thinking about taking out the DW65C and swapping it out for a Walbro 400.

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Originally Posted by sackytar

I will say that I ran 2 sets of 50 1000cc Injectors and they ran horrible both sets. I had a 3rd mailed to me but refused to put them in. I got some ID1000s and put them in Tuesday and car idles great and i am had no issues.

With the 50 injectors I had misfires all over the place. And the part that tucks I the fuel rail was deteriorating.

I learned my lesson with them.

Mayhem tuning (Cory) is in the process of tweaking them out now. And they are night and day. Do the Injector Dynamics.

Looks like the Injector Dynamics 1600s are discontinued. Is it worth it to go 2000 and have the headroom or to look for another brand of 1600s?

sackytar · 10-21-2012, 12:25 PM

ID2000 seems to be working for people.

Maxwell Power · 10-21-2012, 12:45 PM

Next year there should be another injector available that will suit all our needs. I can't give specifics, but it should be Feb or March.

karlknaupp · 10-21-2012, 01:04 PM

Way to tease us lol

Zee Biker · 10-21-2012, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Maxwell Power

Next year there should be another injector available that will suit all our needs. I can't give specifics, but it should be Feb or March.

Which manufacturer?

Matt_H · 10-21-2012, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maxwell Power

Next year there should be another injector available that will suit all our needs. I can't give specifics, but it should be Feb or March.

Ugh. I think Micah needs at least one set early.

For me

Junior2JZ · 10-21-2012, 01:28 PM

Just trapped 164mph with 1600s and e85. Injectors are now at 90% duty cycle with 60psi base pressure.

Just goes to show that a proper fuel system will go a VERY LONG WAY...

jnorth85 · 10-21-2012, 02:29 PM

ID2000's dont agree with the stock ecu very well.
Five 0 sells many different injectors brands/types/sizes its hard to say "five O sucks" when they sell the same EV14 injector ID raves about.

That said 450whp is the limit for a DW300 rewired you cab get to around 500whp. Beyond that it's your choice..

I personally went the single pump route meaning I ran a swirl pot to feed the pump.

I went with the new and innovative fuelabs on demanded based fuel system.

punchjamesarnol · 10-21-2012, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jnorth85

E85 is a very safe fuel with out the fear of detonation you can really push the stock motor.

Thats what we all say before our motor goes... Have a plan and some loot for when she goes.

Whats your setup jn85? 500 ponies is what I want next!!! I gotta re-do my fuel system, head work, mid range cams and a bigger turbo. But I have to get my wifes permission first. LOL!

jnorth85 · 10-21-2012, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by punchjamesarnol

Thats what we all say before our motor goes... Have a plan and some loot for when she goes.

Whats your setup jn85? 500 ponies is what I want next!!! I gotta re-do my fuel system, head work, mid range cams and a bigger turbo. But I have to get my wifes permission first. LOL!

I'm running a dom 3 XTR at 26psi.
Stock long block.
No issues with the motor at all but I plan on building this winter so I can push it a little more!

Jdub.csu · 10-23-2012, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jnorth85

I'm running a dom 3 XTR at 26psi.
Stock long block.
No issues with the motor at all but I plan on building this winter so I can push it a little more!

How long have you been running that setup?

jnorth85 · 10-23-2012, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jdub.csu

How long have you been running that setup?

I got it tuned in the spring.
I've done 4-5 30+ min sessions on a road course. Made around 15 passes on the drag strip and done a countless amount of hard driving. The car isn't my DD so when I do drive it, I drive it hard.

Jdub.csu · 10-23-2012, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jnorth85

I got it tuned in the spring.
I've done 4-5 30+ min sessions on a road course. Made around 15 passes on the drag strip and done a countless amount of hard driving. The car isn't my DD so when I do drive it, I drive it hard.

Ah so lower miles then but hard miles

Conservative E85 tune I assume?

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maxpowr Scooby Guru Member#: 159243 Join Date: Sep 2007 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: medford nj 08055 Vehicle: sg3 Turbo Tek Tuned Hakt Ecu e85 30r 6spd	OEM pistons? * Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

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10-20-2012, 02:40 PM	#6557
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jnorth85 NASIOC Supporter Member#: 76785 Join Date: Dec 2004 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: DSM iowa Vehicle: 2000 RSTi Coupe SRP	E85 is a very safe fuel with out the fear of detonation you can really push the stock motor.

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10-21-2012, 11:31 AM	#6561
TickTack Scooby Newbie Member#: 100353 Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: MN	I only got a few hundred miles on my new build, but I had good luck with the fiveo 1600cc top feed injectors (http://www.fiveomotorsport.com/1600c...import-fit-wrx) and aeromotive fuel rails. I made my own lines using Aeroquip hose and fittings. I'd recommend using new top o-rings rather than the ones included with the injectors (there's a mcmaster p/n floating around). As far as pump, I'm running out of fuel from my hardwired DW300 at around 510whp. I'll be trying a walbro460 this fall before going to a surge tank/external pump setup next summer.

10-21-2012, 12:25 PM	#6564
sackytar NASIOC Supporter Member#: 149262 Join Date: May 2007 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Grand Rapids MI Vehicle: 2003 03WRXw6sp/05FXT PSM	ID2000 seems to be working for people.

10-21-2012, 12:45 PM	#6565
Maxwell Power NASIOC Vendor Member#: 190729 Join Date: Oct 2008 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Marysville, WA	Next year there should be another injector available that will suit all our needs. I can't give specifics, but it should be Feb or March.

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karlknaupp Scooby Specialist Member#: 60871 Join Date: Apr 2004 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: TTT K&W Motorsports Vehicle: 2004 WRB WRX '10 WRB STI SE stg2	Way to tease us lol

10-21-2012, 01:28 PM	#6569
Junior2JZ Scooby Guru Member#: 64908 Join Date: Jun 2004 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: Tuning 8/9sec Subies @ P&L Vehicle: 10.8 XT+ Real stock turbo record holder 11.4	Just trapped 164mph with 1600s and e85. Injectors are now at 90% duty cycle with 60psi base pressure. Just goes to show that a proper fuel system will go a VERY LONG WAY...

10-21-2012, 02:29 PM	#6570
jnorth85 NASIOC Supporter Member#: 76785 Join Date: Dec 2004 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: DSM iowa Vehicle: 2000 RSTi Coupe SRP	ID2000's dont agree with the stock ecu very well. Five 0 sells many different injectors brands/types/sizes its hard to say "five O sucks" when they sell the same EV14 injector ID raves about. That said 450whp is the limit for a DW300 rewired you cab get to around 500whp. Beyond that it's your choice.. I personally went the single pump route meaning I ran a swirl pot to feed the pump. I went with the new and innovative fuelabs on demanded based fuel system.