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Old 03-27-2009, 10:53 PM   #1
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So as many of you know I have a fully built motor and have NO idea where my egt's may be once the car gets running. I have somewhat of a simple question, just need a little guidance.

Jet-hot offers a sick looking polished aluminum ceramic coating finished called extreme sterling which can substain egts up to 1700 degrees. My questions is what should I expect my egts to be cruising, WOT, and max? Would I see something like 1500 on the regular? If so, this coating may not work from what the guy at Jet-hot told me. Well he said, "You'd blister that son bitch" in the most North Carolina voice i've ever heard.

I planned on doing my up-pipe, exhaust housing, and down pipe.

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1. The egts i'd most likely be around (if that's possible to estimate)?
2. If anyone else runs a jet-hot ceramic coat and if so which one?
3. Should I stop worrying about bling and just get the jet-hot 2000 coating which is just flat black but will substain any egt temp I could see in this car?
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Old 03-27-2009, 11:41 PM   #2
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You can use the "Bling" on the down pipe, but high temp on the up-pipe and turbo housing....... outside only.. just in case it starts to flake and gum up the works.
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Old 03-28-2009, 03:11 PM   #4
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is swaintech really better? I checked there site but can't find their ceramic coatings...

Does anyone know where the egts should be on a wrx?
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Old 03-28-2009, 09:41 PM   #5
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I used the Jet-Hot 2000 coating on the same parts you mentioned.





It's not bling-blingy, but it does an excellent job.

I wouldn't use their Sterling/Extreme coatings on a turbo application. I do however have the Extreme coating on my Ninja's header.


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Old 03-28-2009, 11:53 PM   #6
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D this summer im gonna be doing ceramic coating on little misc **** up at my dads shop. I will be getting all the necessary supplies, and if you wanna do your stuff at the same time you can. Not sure how soon you need them though
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Old 03-29-2009, 02:53 PM   #7
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I used the Jet-Hot 2000 coating on the same parts you mentioned.





It's not bling-blingy, but it does an excellent job.

I wouldn't use their Sterling/Extreme coatings on a turbo application. I do however have the Extreme coating on my Ninja's header.


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Dasani, I totally get what you're saying but that gray kills me. I couldn't do it. I'd rather chance it haha. Do you have pics of your ninja header? I was curious to see the sterling silver on something.

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D this summer im gonna be doing ceramic coating on little misc **** up at my dads shop. I will be getting all the necessary supplies, and if you wanna do your stuff at the same time you can. Not sure how soon you need them though
haha thanks for the offer man but I need this done this week. haha
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Old 03-29-2009, 03:15 PM   #8
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I see 1300-1400f at cruise, and max EGT in 5th gear is 1670-1690f. 1-4th WOT is usually under 1600f.
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Old 03-29-2009, 04:50 PM   #9
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Do the EGTs get that high at shows?

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Old 03-29-2009, 08:31 PM   #10
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I see 1300-1400f at cruise, and max EGT in 5th gear is 1670-1690f. 1-4th WOT is usually under 1600f.
Damn so this is a no go then. I need the jet-hot 2000 only.

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the company over here in Canada fireball coatings coats the inside with the black 2000 and then the outside with the xmc polished silver!
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Old 03-29-2009, 09:40 PM   #13
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I had my last header coated by Jet Hot with Extreme Stirling. I was actually very disappointed in how little difference it made compared with bare metal.
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the company over here in Canada fireball coatings coats the inside with the black 2000 and then the outside with the xmc polished silver!
Can you post their contact information? I'd like to see their work.

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I had my last header coated by Jet Hot with Extreme Stirling. I was actually very disappointed in how little difference it made compared with bare metal.
What do you mean? As far as holding the heat in or how it looked?
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What do you mean? As far as holding the heat in or how it looked?
Holding the heat in. Well, not holding the heat in was the problem. Massively increased under hood temps compared to the stock header plus it was letting the exhaust cool to the point the cats wouldn't light off. Obviously, the thinner aftermarket piping itself lets more heat off but the hope had been that the ceramic coating would help enough to offset that. It didn't.

Headers are now wrapped and there's been a HUUUUUGE drop in underhood temps!
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Old 03-29-2009, 11:47 PM   #16
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Well I didn't plan on ceramic coating my header since it's wrapped. I wanted to do my down pipe, up pipe, and dump tube because it looks like ass. UR kits aren't exactly the most eye appealing and I want this engine bay to look like you can eat off of it.

Here is an example of what I wanted done, but im not sure it will last long...








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Had my first set of FR stuff coated with it. It is more like a silver paint than a ceramic coating. I would not recommend it unless you only wanted something for appearance. Plus Dmoney, I would not be the least bit surprised if the heat raidated off of a poorly insulated turbo system F'ed up the paint applied to surrounding surfaces. If I were you I would use the Swaintech White lightening coating that Unabomber suggested, much thicker and better at retaining heat. If worst comes to worst you can coat the White Lightening with whatever color VHT Flameproof paint you would like.
But if It was me I would wrap it;-)

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Assuming that you want looks first and performance second, don't get the swain tech. It works the best, but it is by far the ugliest.
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Had my first set of FR stuff coated with it. It is more like a silver paint than a ceramic coating. I would not recommend it unless you only wanted something for appearance. Plus Dmoney, I would not be the least bit surprised if the heat raidated off of a poorly insulated turbo system F'ed up the paint applied to surrounding surfaces. If I were you I would use the Swaintech White lightening coating that Unabomber suggested, much thicker and better at retaining heat. If worst comes to worst you can coat the White Lightening with whatever color VHT Flameproof paint you would like.
But if It was me I would wrap it;-)
Thanks Martin! I also contacted full-race about this and they said this is what they use. Did the jet hot extreme sterling coating turn gray after it was used or it stayed in that finish?

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Assuming that you want looks first and performance second, don't get the swain tech. It works the best, but it is by far the ugliest.
obviously I need the performance aspect too, seeing as the car will be setup to be raced and make power. I just wanted it to look good as well considering the time and money spent in the engine bay tucking, shaving, replacing every bolt, powdercoating all pieces, and making everything look brand new. Why would I not want to continue that process?

Anyways, thanks for being a dick man. I guess you don't remember me when I sent you the money for parts I bought from you...
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Thanks Martin! I also contacted full-race about this and they said this is what they use. Did the jet hot extreme sterling coating turn gray after it was used or it stayed in that finish?



obviously I need the performance aspect too, seeing as the car will be setup to be raced and make power. I just wanted it to look good as well considering the time and money spent in the engine bay tucking, shaving, replacing every bolt, powdercoating all pieces, and making everything look brand new. Why would I not want to continue that process?

Anyways, thanks for being a dick man. I guess you don't remember me when I sent you the money for parts I bought from you...

I wasn't being a dick. I know that you would hate the swain tech, so I advised against it. The swain tech is good, but ugly as sin. It gets all pimply looking when hot.
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You laughed at the old man who always talks **** to me, that made me furious. Anyway, I checked out the swaintech and it looks good IMO. I think that and jet hot 2000 both look good, just not as good as the extreme sterling. I guess I will go black and get a turbo blanket.

Will the down pipe be just as hot as the up pipe and turbo housing? Maybe I can still do that in extreme sterling.
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Long way to send stuff but without doubt, the best money can buy...

http://www.zircotec.com/

My headers are done with this and my new turbo system will be also. If its good enough for F1 and the likes of the gobstopper... it will do me just fine
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D, as said before you can Swaintech your stuff then just use a high temp rattle can paint to give the white some color, its not gonna look all smooth but will work way better than thin coatings.
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