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Old 03-28-2009, 12:28 AM   #1
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Hey all,

Looking into changing my suspension on my 2007 wrx currently on tanabe gf210 springs and stock struts. Also, I am on 17x8.5 with 245/40/17 summer tires. It is my DD and I plan on auto-x a couple times this year, so nothing too crazy. I have ruled out coilovers.

I am looking at tokico struts but not sure about going with rce yellows or rce blacks /w lowering camber plate.
-What differences are there between the 2 choices? I know the each option gives a similiar drop but which one will be more comfortable?
-I am not sure what the camber plates do besides aligning camber. What would a lower camber plate do? Will the ride be harsher than having regular camber plate?
-Would the black/lcp be more comfortable because the spring doesn't drop as much as the yellows?

Please inform me if i dont know what the hell i am asking

Any input will be appreciated!
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Old 03-28-2009, 07:44 AM   #2
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I just recently pondered the same options, and went with the RCE blacks, RCE lowering plates (Ver. 1s), and DSpecs. I've never run the Yellows, but the general concensus is that the slightly higher rates and increased drop will cause them to ride a little rougher. With the wide wheels/tires you are running, you'll probably be better off with the blacks and camber plates. The drop in front will be virtually equal to the Yellows, but the rear will be slightly higher. I don't have any good pics of my setup yet to show you ride height, but the stance is very even front to back. My rideheight is 14" F, 13.75" R.

Go on iwsti.com and search DracoREX. He has Blacks/Lowering Plates and several pics/writeups about his setup.

As far as NVH, its logical that the camber plate might add more than a rubber tophat, but I have hardly noticed any additional harshness compared to my former setup with OEM tophats. I have absolutely no regrets - as soon as I get my alignment squared away, I'll be
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Old 03-28-2009, 11:09 AM   #3
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Depending on the class you want to run, sway bars might be a better handling mod (for the $). Just wanted to throw that out there. Good luck.
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I just recently pondered the same options, and went with the RCE blacks, RCE lowering plates (Ver. 1s), and DSpecs. I've never run the Yellows, but the general concensus is that the slightly higher rates and increased drop will cause them to ride a little rougher. With the wide wheels/tires you are running, you'll probably be better off with the blacks and camber plates. The drop in front will be virtually equal to the Yellows, but the rear will be slightly higher. I don't have any good pics of my setup yet to show you ride height, but the stance is very even front to back. My rideheight is 14" F, 13.75" R.

Go on iwsti.com and search DracoREX. He has Blacks/Lowering Plates and several pics/writeups about his setup.

As far as NVH, its logical that the camber plate might add more than a rubber tophat, but I have hardly noticed any additional harshness compared to my former setup with OEM tophats. I have absolutely no regrets - as soon as I get my alignment squared away, I'll be
thanks, i dont generally visit iwsti but yeah his setup is what got me thinking about the yellows vs blacks/lcp

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Depending on the class you want to run, sway bars might be a better handling mod (for the $). Just wanted to throw that out there. Good luck.
i have cusco rear sway bars sitting at home.. gotta install it soon
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Old 03-29-2009, 08:54 PM   #5
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Have you seen the pictures I've done of Draco's car?

IMO, the Blacks will be more real-world, more comfortable, and more capable than the Yellows. That's based off of building a couple of cars (including Dracos) as well as riding in others that have had Blacks and Yellows.

The lowering camber plate is simply a normal camber plate that also happens to reduce ride height. Other than that, they won't feel or act any different. In addition to allowing you to adjust camber, camber plates also eliminate all compliance at the strut top, giving you much better control of your dynamic alignment. Frankly, I think that aspect of camber plates is at least as big of a deal as the camber control. I recommend people get camber plates for the reduced compliance even if they intend to leave the camber plate at 0 adjustment.

And yes, I think the Blacks would be more comfortable than the Yellows.
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Have you seen the pictures I've done of Draco's car?

IMO, the Blacks will be more real-world, more comfortable, and more capable than the Yellows. That's based off of building a couple of cars (including Dracos) as well as riding in others that have had Blacks and Yellows.

The lowering camber plate is simply a normal camber plate that also happens to reduce ride height. Other than that, they won't feel or act any different. In addition to allowing you to adjust camber, camber plates also eliminate all compliance at the strut top, giving you much better control of your dynamic alignment. Frankly, I think that aspect of camber plates is at least as big of a deal as the camber control. I recommend people get camber plates for the reduced compliance even if they intend to leave the camber plate at 0 adjustment.

And yes, I think the Blacks would be more comfortable than the Yellows.
thanks i was hoping for a response from you haha, could you send me more pics of dracos? im not sure if the ones i saw was the ones you took.
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Just check out my Flickr set of Draco's car.
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