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Old 03-28-2009, 10:38 PM   #1
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Default my 136whp STI, featuring non-aggressive wheels (rally car) - updates post #176

This thread is to officially introduce the Ziptie Rally Team (ZRT). ZRT is a performance rally team based out of Golden Valley, MN. We will be campaigning a 2004 STI in Rally America's Open Light class. This car has been de-turboed and rebuilt using 11:1 pistons. Ron at RS Motors tuned it to 136whp/136wtq (this is using the turbo cams and stock manifolds).

Team owner/driver: Carl Siegler (carl)
Co-driver: Dave Goodman (scuba_steve)
Crew Chief: Dan Drury (boomer)
Crew: Andrew Browning (sniper1rfa), Brian Bielke (bielke55), Matt Alexander (chux), Sheen Hua (idget), Dan Mooers (dmoo)

2009 Events:
Nemadji Trail 1, Duquette, MN - May 9
Gravity Park, Chilton, WI - May 23
Nemadji Trail 2, Duquette, MN - June 13
Nemadji Trail 3, Duquette, MN - July 25
Ojibwe Forest Rally, Bemdidji, MN - August 28-29
Lake Superior Performance Rally, Houghton, MI, October 16-17
Rallye de Paris, Paris TX, date TBA

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(Andrew is driving the car in this picture)


EDIT: it is painfully obvious I need to put some more info in the first post

SlowTI faq:
Q: The hp and tq seems low, why is that?
A: The engine is still using turbo cams and exhaust manifold. It dynos close to what a stock 10:1 2.5i motor makes which has been built n/a and is not an odd frankenstein like this engine. The tune is focused on reliablity over power. It did push the rollers to 150whp on one run.

Q: Why not change the cams, exhaust manifold, etc. to gain more power?
A: This is a temporary engine. We are using this engine for one season to gain enough Rally America coefficients to move to an unrestricted license. Without the unrestricted license we cannot run an awd car with a turbo. The purpose of this engine is not to be fast or competative, it is merely there to run reliably so we can finish races. This is our stepping stone.

Q: Why do an n/a ej257 instead of swapping?
A: Wiring. As stated, this is a temporary set-up. Our next turbo motor will still be an ej257. Going the route we did makes it all very simple to go back and forth.

Q: A 5spd would be better with your n/a engine, why the 6spd?
A: Maybe. I would have to buy a 5spd. That costs money. A used 5spd would be of questionable condition - I could easily grenaded a used 5spd on stage. I own a 6spd. The 6spd is much stronger and less likely to fail. The 6spd has DCCD.

Q: Why does your car have doorcards?
A: Rally America requires doorcards.

Q: Why does your car have a radio?
A: It's a little pointless I'll admit. However, we still drive this car on the street occassionally (to TSD rallies and car shows/meets). The car is obnoxiously loud and the radio kill some of the road noise.

Q: Why did you take off the brembos?
A: Rally tires come in small sizes - there are no 17" gravel tires. In order to run rally tires we needed brakes that could clear 15" wheels, hence the 4/2 pots (group n's)

Q: What's with the dash?
A: The dash is flocked (material from www.donjer.com). It reduces glare from the sun. This is also why the rear decklid is flat black.

Q: Why is the interior white if you want to reduce glare?
A: The dash and decklid cause the most glare issues. The white makes spotting cracks, holes, and fractures easier than on a dark colored surface

Q: How does the handbrake work?
A: The handbrake is a hydraulic unit. It goes in-line with the rear brake lines. There is a proportioning valve on the side that allows the front to rear brake bias to be set. Pulling the handle will actuate the rear calipers.
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Old 03-28-2009, 10:42 PM   #2
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i was not expecting this at all
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Old 03-28-2009, 10:43 PM   #3
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i was not expecting this at all
no one ever is

SlowTI is slow
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Old 03-28-2009, 10:44 PM   #4
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why de-turbo'd? i'm guessing something with the class?
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Old 03-28-2009, 10:45 PM   #5
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why de-turbo'd? i'm guessing something with the class?
correct - open light is a regional class for awd cars with n/a 2.5L or smaller engines
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Old 03-28-2009, 10:47 PM   #6
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car looks slick, any video/footage? wonderin' how it sounds?
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Old 03-28-2009, 10:47 PM   #7
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could have bought a gc chasis and build that motor?
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Old 03-28-2009, 10:49 PM   #8
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could have bought a gc chasis and build that motor?
this is true. also just noticed i still see a 6 speed. that thing must eat up a LOT of hp
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Old 03-28-2009, 10:52 PM   #9
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could have bought a gc chasis and build that motor?
could have... could have done a lot of things but this is the route we went.

I'll start building a turbo motor around November for next season
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Old 03-28-2009, 11:16 PM   #10
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cool car. Under hood pics?
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Old 03-28-2009, 11:18 PM   #11
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cool car. Under hood pics?
imagine an sti engine with a 2.5RS intake

(doh, forgot engine bay pics lol)
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Old 03-28-2009, 11:20 PM   #12
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Old 03-28-2009, 11:20 PM   #13
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hmmmmmm...i have nothing against n/a cars but these turbo motors with out turbos are horrible

swap in a 2.5i motor or something!
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Old 03-28-2009, 11:22 PM   #14
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hmmmmmm...i have nothing against n/a cars but these turbo motors with out turbos are horrible

swap in a 2.5i motor or something!
but it has 11:1 wisecos!
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Old 03-29-2009, 12:02 AM   #15
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a sti without a heart? doesnt seem right
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Old 03-29-2009, 12:05 AM   #16
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a sti with gravel tires? seems right.

FTFY



The car makes about what a stock 2.5L makes, and was significantly easier and cheaper than a swap. This motor only needs to last for 18 coefficents before being swapped to a built turbo motor for a different class.


EDIT: by the way, by using the STi we also get the benefit of a much better driveline and, of course, the ricer plank.
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I like it. Really show it's not about power and focuses on the driver and suspension
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Old 03-29-2009, 12:06 AM   #18
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lovin the progress you've made over the years with this car... i remeber this being my favorite car on dirtyimpreza.com...props
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haha just kidding, nice car!
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Old 03-29-2009, 12:36 AM   #20
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Now you are on my level sir

i challenge you to a race
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Old 03-29-2009, 12:39 AM   #21
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Now you are on my level sir

i challenge you to a race
2.5i huh? ok but you need to be towing our race trailer behind your car

(seriously, the car is piss slow. andrews 2.5i feels faster for sure)
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Old 03-29-2009, 01:15 AM   #22
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a $30k+ car was just turned into a $15k car
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Old 03-29-2009, 01:24 AM   #23
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a $30k+ car was just turned into a $15k car


first of all, you don't really understand the idea of a race car, do you (please don't act butthurt, because if you did you wouldn't have posted that )?
second of all, rally cars hold value much better than your average joe ricer build. It would still sell for a loss but not as badly as you'd expect
lastly, it's a race car. it's meant to be raced, crashed, and destroyed. the value of the car is in its functionality. I don't care what it's worth because I'm not selling it, I'm racing it
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Old 03-29-2009, 01:25 AM   #24
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not really.
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Old 03-29-2009, 01:35 AM   #25
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well the gc would have been a lot cheaper to start off with and spend more money on building. it is also a lighter chasis. the sti was expensive to start with. im pretty sure budget isnt a problem for you guys lol. anyways this is still a cool race car build.
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