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Old 04-03-2009, 11:25 PM   #1
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Default 05 STi with Dom3 by Tim at Surgeline

First of all, props to Tim Bailey and the rest of the Surgeline crew. They stayed late to get me out the door with a good tune, even after finding out that I needed a new DP because my Invidia was causing a little too much back pressure after a few pulls. Thorough pre-tune inspection as well that resulted in me getting a new Perrin inlet, as I couldn't get the APS to fit; as well as checking/fixing all vacuum and fuel lines as necessary.

Great guys, good to chat with and obviously they know what they are doing. Tim was nice enough to come out of the tuning bay several times to tell me what he was seeing and what he thought, as well as asking my input for what I would like to end up with. A great experience overall, I would recommend Surgeline to anyone.

My (power related) setup is as follows:
DW 740cc injectors
Walboro 255lph fuel pump
NGK one step colder plugs
Prodrive 3 port BCS
KStech 73mm CAI
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APS 50/50 BPV
Grimspeed TGV deletes and Phelolic spacers
Perrin EL header
Grimmspeed up
Cobb catted DP
Cobb CBE
Kartboy lightweight crank pulley


On to the graph. I was a little nervous as I have done all of my own work, but everything held together. Max map was 21psi, conservative on AFR and timing as I requested, the other two are 20 and 18 psi. The car feels great, nice smooth power curve that just is great to drive.

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Old 04-03-2009, 11:59 PM   #2
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Nice Numbers, you should get a C16 tune!
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Old 04-04-2009, 12:01 AM   #3
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So you're the guy with the 73mm KS Tech intake Tim was talking about. With my goals I'm going to have to go with the 83mm though.

Anyways, solid numbers. Must drive nice and smooth. Any videos? haha
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Old 04-04-2009, 12:03 AM   #4
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wow, tim is the man. i wish he was closer to me hear on the east coast
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Old 04-04-2009, 01:42 AM   #5
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That is a very nice mod list of some great parts
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Old 04-06-2009, 09:25 PM   #6
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What was Tim's impression on dialing in the intake maf calibration. How would you say the car drives at low and part throttle with this intake?

Nice list of modifications. My setup is similar.
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Old 04-07-2009, 12:02 AM   #7
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Nice power! now over lay it with a Z06 corvette
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Old 04-07-2009, 12:07 AM   #8
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Why bother with a large MAF when AP supports speed density?
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Old 04-07-2009, 12:08 AM   #9
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Nice power! now over lay it with a Z06 corvette
why would he want to do that?
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Old 04-07-2009, 12:10 AM   #10
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Because everyone running a dom 3 is clearly bench racing zo6 corvettes now
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Old 04-07-2009, 12:21 AM   #11
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c6 z06?? would make hella more then that. probably about 100 wheel more and starting 2k rpms sooner...... sound about right?
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Old 04-07-2009, 02:05 AM   #12
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why would he want to do that?
I did! http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1734669 Look at second dyno down.

It would give a better barometer for how much power he really is making

OFF TOPIC:

I just am sick of seeing VF39 wrx and STi's that are making 350 whp and 400 torq. with nothing of substance to compare it too. Lets get some bench marks going here. We all know the C6 Z06 is balls fast no matter where you are. but if you are making 350 whp and are 155 whp off of a Z06 then we know that your dyno reads uber high. If you are making 400 whp and the Z06 has you by 20 whp then you have a fast car. That is all I am saying

back on topic and sorry for the rant to the OP.
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Old 04-07-2009, 02:57 AM   #13
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I just am sick of seeing VF39 wrx and STi's that are making 350 whp and 400 torq.
It's all about improvements over stock. If the same dyno produces 200/200 for a stock STI, then yes, 350/400 is a great improvement. If you are on the brodyno you can hit 400whp all day long with a VF39.
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Old 04-07-2009, 03:16 AM   #14
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I agree it is about improvement. I just like comparisons
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Old 04-07-2009, 07:19 AM   #15
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It's all about improvements over stock. If the same dyno produces 200/200 for a stock STI, then yes, 350/400 is a great improvement. If you are on the brodyno you can hit 400whp all day long with a VF39.

The thing is, tuning subarus is no longer new like it was in 2002, 2003 when people had no idea how various setups would make power, what the potential of various setups were, etc. etc.

Most everything has been done and done many times now - it is well known how much power a given setup will make. There's no point in fantastical results for a given setup other than the confuse and mislead newbies.
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Old 06-03-2009, 02:56 PM   #16
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I did! http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1734669 Look at second dyno down.

It would give a better barometer for how much power he really is making

OFF TOPIC:

I just am sick of seeing VF39 wrx and STi's that are making 350 whp and 400 torq. with nothing of substance to compare it too. Lets get some bench marks going here. We all know the C6 Z06 is balls fast no matter where you are. but if you are making 350 whp and are 155 whp off of a Z06 then we know that your dyno reads uber high. If you are making 400 whp and the Z06 has you by 20 whp then you have a fast car. That is all I am saying

back on topic and sorry for the rant to the OP.
Not sure what you are getting at but this isn't a VF39 setup for one, look at the mod list. Secondly, any car (even the Z06) is subject to the same variations on dynos as anything else; they aren't the golden mean.

Your idea only works if every shop keeps a Z06 to run right after each customer car. Or everyone uses dynojets because you can't fiddle with them to change the results. Of course everyone cries about how "high" those read too.
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Old 06-03-2009, 03:24 PM   #17
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Great looking curves! Looks like a very potent street set-up.
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Old 06-03-2009, 07:27 PM   #18
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was is it your catted COBB DP that was giving high back pressure, or something else?

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Old 06-03-2009, 09:55 PM   #19
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Sorry I should have been more clear. When I showed up I had an Invidia v3 catted DP on, and had been running it fine with an OTS stage 2 tune for a long time. Tim overlapped a previous similar setup and tune over my dyno plot and showed how mine was spooling 500 or so RPM late. After verifying that there were no exhaust leaks and that the turbine was spinning freely, he suggested that the DP was likely the culprit. I asked them to install the Cobb, and he was right.
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Old 06-03-2009, 09:59 PM   #20
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care on sharing your timing/ POL table.
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Old 06-03-2009, 10:03 PM   #21
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Off the cuff I would say no, only because I didn't tune it myself and I consider the table values to be the IP of the tuner even if legally that is not the case. If you contact contact Surgeline and they are willing to share them with you, I have absolutely no problem with it.
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