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Old 04-06-2009, 11:50 PM   #1
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looking to see what the 20 g guys are doing
plots are great but i would really like to see some time slips
also anyone know whos the fastest 20g?
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Old 04-06-2009, 11:54 PM   #2
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fastest 20g has to be paintball guy, he had an 06 wrx with a dog box. ran an 11.5 or 11.6.
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Old 04-07-2009, 12:12 AM   #3
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+1 I'm thinking about getting one eventually and am in the 6 month slow research period of modifying but its still fun.
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Old 04-07-2009, 02:29 AM   #4
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Old 04-07-2009, 01:43 PM   #5
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fastest 20g has to be paintball guy, he had an 06 wrx with a dog box. ran an 11.5 or 11.6.
he did that on a dom3, not a 20G
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Old 04-07-2009, 02:23 PM   #6
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In a lighter wrx with ppgs i think there are a handfull of people in the high 11's......

I think most folks in full weight 6 speed STi's only get low 12's on race gas.

11.8's on 100 octane + meth, auto forester
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12.1's on 93 + meth, 5 spd wrx
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Old 04-07-2009, 07:36 PM   #7
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he did that on a dom3, not a 20G
sure about that? if i remeber right in the 11.55 or faster registry it says 20g???
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Old 04-07-2009, 07:38 PM   #8
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and on his youtube vid it says 20g????
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Old 04-07-2009, 08:46 PM   #9
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I ran a 12.592@111.37. I trapped 114 on the first run of the night but after that my clutch was toast and I had a blown gasket on my cross pipe, so the best I could do was was the above.

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Old 04-07-2009, 09:48 PM   #10
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what "20g" are you guys going with.. It will be what im looking for, but im so not feeling 1100 bucks for such a small turbo.. and i dont want to go down to a 16 or 18g (on an sti)
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Old 04-07-2009, 11:05 PM   #11
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im convinced the 20g is the turbo to get for the street, especially for the 2.5 guys. people are putting over 400 on meth and making boost almost like a stock turbo. when i get enough cash im doing a td 06 20g, ewg and meth. that combination making over 400whp is the perfect street setup IMO
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Old 04-07-2009, 11:17 PM   #12
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im convinced the 20g is the turbo to get for the street, especially for the 2.5 guys. people are putting over 400 on meth and making boost almost like a stock turbo. when i get enough cash im doing a td 06 20g, ewg and meth. that combination making over 400whp is the perfect street setup IMO
Lucky you with that STi tranny!
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Old 04-07-2009, 11:28 PM   #13
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Lucky you with that STi tranny!
Doesn't seem like many have taken a 20g down a racetrack. I dont see why an 11.5 wouldn't be commonplace at sea level (on good gas). Its not like a 35r where you have to learn to launch all over again
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Old 04-07-2009, 11:32 PM   #14
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I don't care how you make it your not going to have a good lifespan on that engine looking to go that far on the stock block trying to push 400WHP+... Might last a little while and yes there are a few that do it all day long and don't DD it. But for those that have been down that road know its just a matter of time.

Not cutting on the 20G its a killer setup for sure add a little METH and its mean as hell.
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Old 04-07-2009, 11:49 PM   #15
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I don't care how you make it your not going to have a good lifespan on that engine looking to go that far on the stock block trying to push 400WHP+... Might last a little while and yes there are a few that do it all day long and don't DD it. But for those that have been down that road know its just a matter of time.

Not cutting on the 20G its a killer setup for sure add a little METH and its mean as hell.
Oh come on now 4ST, this is not necessarily true. I'm sorry you were one of the people that got chitted on by another case of inconstancy in Subaru quality. I really am. Lord knows if I blew 2 POS motors I would rent a crane to pick up and drop my car through the dealerships roof.

The stock maps suck, and the stock ring end gaps dont seem to hold any type of "tight" tolerances. The stock maps you can fix easily, the chitty tolerance holding you cannot.

The longevity of these cars and the amount of power and abuse they can take are pure luck. Ive seen stock cars blow up with under 300whp, and Ive seen motors go 50k and still strong with 35R's (spoolin05 10.9 1/4 stock motor).

Being perfectly honest, i have 46k on my motor. My 93 map has proven a 12.19 @ 112. I dont even think 93oct 20g's for the most part go 12.1, granted they'll make a chit ton more power on good gas. With my car now, I would be confident running another 50-70whp everyday with my "less than conservative" driving style. But, I would have 0% confidence in buying another subaru and doing the same thing.
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Old 04-08-2009, 12:02 AM   #16
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If stage 2 STis run upper 12s so thats about 300 whp so I figure a 20g would net about 350 whp so I figure that should get you to low 12s right?
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Old 04-08-2009, 03:07 AM   #17
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Oh come on now 4ST, this is not necessarily true. I'm sorry you were one of the people that got chitted on by another case of inconstancy in Subaru quality. I really am. Lord knows if I blew 2 POS motors I would rent a crane to pick up and drop my car through the dealerships roof.

The stock maps suck, and the stock ring end gaps dont seem to hold any type of "tight" tolerances. The stock maps you can fix easily, the chitty tolerance holding you cannot.

The longevity of these cars and the amount of power and abuse they can take are pure luck. Ive seen stock cars blow up with under 300whp, and Ive seen motors go 50k and still strong with 35R's (spoolin05 10.9 1/4 stock motor).

Being perfectly honest, i have 46k on my motor. My 93 map has proven a 12.19 @ 112. I dont even think 93oct 20g's for the most part go 12.1, granted they'll make a chit ton more power on good gas. With my car now, I would be confident running another 50-70whp everyday with my "less than conservative" driving style. But, I would have 0% confidence in buying another subaru and doing the same thing.
My car has 70k miles and is running strong with blouch 2.5 and meth.
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Old 04-08-2009, 04:22 PM   #18
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im convinced the 20g is the turbo to get for the street, especially for the 2.5 guys. people are putting over 400 on meth and making boost almost like a stock turbo. when i get enough cash im doing a td 06 20g, ewg and meth. that combination making over 400whp is the perfect street setup IMO
a green or dom3 or 3076 will be better if you're gonna run meth......the 20g wont hold as much boost as the rest of them so the meth doesnt give you as much of a boost.

and most greens and gt30's will outspool 20g's cause the 20g is hindered by the 2.4" inlet....

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Oh come on now 4ST, this is not necessarily true.
I agree with 4st here.....once you get into 20g to gt30 territory and you're running pump+meth and getting 350-400whp on low reading dynos, your motor isnt gonna last long. There are people who have run big setups over long periods of time, but this power level is where the majority of "commonplace" motor problems start.

Thats double the whp of a stock sti, what can we really expect.

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Doesn't seem like many have taken a 20g down a racetrack. I dont see why an 11.5 wouldn't be commonplace at sea level (on good gas).
You're right.....not many 20g's seem to make it to the track. I think its because people get them on and want more so upgrade before getting to the track. Others know the 20g isnt the best option if you're gonna run race gas or meth and just go straight up to a 49-52 lb/min turbo.
On the same note, not many Green's make it to the track either. I've only seen 2 Greens in the 11's i think. If you're looking at a 49 lb/min turbo, then you think to yourself i might as well get the 52 lb/min one....then you think well if im gonna get the 3076 i might as well get the rotated version.....

20g's just cant hold boost up top so race gas doesnt help out as much.
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Old 04-08-2009, 08:31 PM   #19
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I have personally gone 11.7 at 115mph, with a 1.6x 60ft. 04 STi, stock longblock/tranny, 20g ext. gated with a 7cm 2.4 inlet, and race gas. it was in jgheels car, I'm sure he has a timeslip, roughly 3 yrs ago. I have also trapped 119 in the same car.....will search for the vid.
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Old 04-08-2009, 08:51 PM   #20
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Also curious to see what gets posted. I have predictions for my car, but am not saying anything until i run.
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Old 04-08-2009, 09:09 PM   #21
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I just tuned a 20g sti today 349whp/350 tq on a mustang dyno. 20.5 psi dropping to about 18.5 at redline. Its a very nice very linear power band.

I see it the way most of you guys do. you have alot of options out there and certain turbos make great power in specific ranges.

Stock locaton turbos over lap well, 20g 320-350 range easily, greens and the smaller dominator turbos, 375-400, Dom3 atp3076/35 400-450, FP Red and Dom 4 450+.

Then you have your rotated turbos and their spots. Now depending on your location some owners preffer diff. types of racing.

I really like seeing good tunes with small turbos running good times. and Love it when I see it on top mount IC's. The one mantra if you must or little bit of advice I was given is.

1. decide what you'll use the car for.
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This gives you a good round about build with the potential to go up if you wish later.
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i think a 20g setup is a lot of fun, zero lag and they hit hard. however, they are fairly disapointing in the qtr mile. much better suited for road course, autox, 1/8mile drag, and spirited driving on public roads.

if you are interested in lower et's, big turbo + race gas is the best solution.
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Old 04-08-2009, 10:17 PM   #23
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sure about that? if i remeber right in the 11.55 or faster registry it says 20g???
Actually, I'm not. I know when he sold his car he had already gotten rid of his 20G for a dom3, so I assumed he trapped his time with the dom3.

Next time I head over to DPS I'll ask Brian, cause I know he talked with Brian at the track one time about his set up.
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i think a 20g setup is a lot of fun, zero lag and they hit hard. however, they are fairly disapointing in the qtr mile. much better suited for road course, autox, 1/8mile drag, and spirited driving on public roads.

if you are interested in lower et's, big turbo + race gas is the best solution.
I agree, even though Im on PPB for drag racing, im more of a twisty guy, and see no point to go further than a green for my liking. I drive alot, about 30k a yr, i dont feel like reving out to 6-8k just to get my kicks. If you know how to drive you can still make a baby turbo shine down the 1320. If people cared about driving and stopped being dyno queens i dont seee why a 20g couldnt be good for low-mid 11's and a green for 11.0 territory.

Thats why I like checking up on the Puerto Rico guys, they go 10's on red'ed every day drivers and 9's on big boy turbos.
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