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Old 04-07-2009, 08:53 PM   #1
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Default co-driver, Solo, what's generally expected?

I know there is no hard and fast rule set , but would like to get some ideas on what is generally expected of a co-driver (besides letting the owner set a quicker time )- found a thread related to rally- I'm talking autox here

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Old 04-07-2009, 09:41 PM   #2
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Depends on a lot of things. I had a tire contract in 2006-2007, and those that drove with me did not have to "pay" for tires but we split travel expenses.

Usually there are tires to be bought or shared based on how many events are driven by whom....sometimes preparation expenses and maintenance, but that is usually up to the car's owner. Then you need to decide how any contingency winnings are spent (car, each driver, split in half, etc.)

So many variables, I'd just make up your own rules based on what you feel is "fair" and what return each is getting. I've also had deals where I was basically doing car set up, and that was enough for the owner...that, and I was (am) too broke to fund the project also.
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Old 04-07-2009, 09:48 PM   #3
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big tires cost big money. It's not uncommon to charge $100+ a race for the chance to drive a class prepped car (likely on race rubber).

That said, if it's not your car, you should beat the owner.
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Old 04-07-2009, 11:26 PM   #4
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For a single event I have never asked for anything, personally... usually just help with tire swapping, taking the car through tech, etc. For a full season I might ask for some of the tire cost but even then, I figure I would have bought tires anyway and likely swapped them out at year's end

ProSolo would be harder though, more wear on the car. Sadly I don't think the car is eligible for any contingency unless I end up on RE11's.
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Old 04-07-2009, 11:40 PM   #5
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thanks gents- this will likely be a one time deal- looks like a NT entry fee is ~ $90- if I covered that for the owner, I'm thinking that should cover wear/tear on six runs (these would be on R compounds)

does that sound fair enough? don't want to be a cheap skate
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Old 04-08-2009, 12:27 AM   #6
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thanks gents- this will likely be a one time deal- looks like a NT entry fee is ~ $90- if I covered that for the owner, I'm thinking that should cover wear/tear on six runs (these would be on R compounds)

does that sound fair enough? don't want to be a cheap skate
That sounds fair to me.

I own a fairly well prepped XP class car and will be running with a co-driver all year. He helps with working on the car and we split tire and maintenance costs for the year. It's worked out well the last few years.
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Old 04-08-2009, 12:54 AM   #7
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Old 04-08-2009, 02:31 AM   #8
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There was a good deal in one of the front-running STS.. er.. ST cars last year I heard about.

Pay the entry for the event to the owner as "rent" - then split fuel costs. (2 drivers, fuel goes two ways.. three, three, etc..) The car would usually end up running in STS, STSL, STX, STXL.. etc... so the owner would do well for tires and wear and tear, and then often the fuel bills were minimal for everyone.

For R-comps, I might kick more. (I have had cars that cost as much as $28/run on R-comps..)


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Old 04-08-2009, 07:49 AM   #9
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I'd say for a single event, paying the owner's entry fee is a pretty common arrangement, yes.
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Old 04-08-2009, 09:56 AM   #10
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If it was me, I'd want to understand what was expected from me in case of a breakage/accident while I was driving. Rare, I guess, but you never know.
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Old 04-08-2009, 10:30 AM   #11
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someone suggested I put a few more details in (kind of event, prep level of the car)- is a National Tour event, the car sounds like a fairly well prepped Stock class car

maybe entry fee and a couple of lunches
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Old 04-08-2009, 03:10 PM   #12
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The one time I've co-drive a well set up car was for nationals in 2007; I paid the owner $150 for a decent STU ride plus half of anything I won. I also split the gas bill and help him drive the car to Topeka. I also hung out in grid (I ran ladies) with my two codrivers during their runs and helped them out with checking pressures and cooling down tires/intercooler inbetween runs.

The rest of the time I've driven national events in my own car or my husband's but we have always had multiple co-drivers. He said it's made the most sense to him to charge per run plus half the gas since more drivers equals more wear on the tires (rather than splitting the cost of a set of tires). But I would say the going rate for a ride in a decent r-comp car would be $200 for a weekend event and $100-$150 for a decent ST car plus gas.
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