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Old 04-08-2009, 02:59 PM   #1
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I got a quote for short block and I want to buy it as soon as I finish paying off my tranny

Short block with CP pistons, eagle rods, race series bearings, weighted and balance rotating assembly, modification of crank for better oiling, arp fasteners, gasket kit, new crank and block for 4.5k. If I go with cosworth forged bottom end it will cost me 5.5k

Installation and break in will cost me 2k, so a total of 7.5K if I go with cosworth.

Is that a good price? How do you like this setup?

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Old 04-08-2009, 03:29 PM   #2
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Sounds reasonable. I would personally go with something better than Eagle rods(like the Cosworth), but thats me.
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Old 04-08-2009, 03:32 PM   #3
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If its a smaller shop, I'd say no since Ron sells his RAW blocks for $4300 and he's pretty much the gold standard here (even over cossie IMHO).
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Old 04-08-2009, 04:50 PM   #4
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modification of crank for better oiling
Do you know what exactly this entails? There have been several ' common belief' attempts at such modifications without good results.

There are a lot of shops that apply 'concepts' from other engine designs with a belief it will improve something in the EJ motor.

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Old 04-09-2009, 10:19 AM   #5
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I got a quote for short block and I want to buy it as soon as I finish paying off my tranny

Short block with CP pistons, eagle rods, race series bearings, weighted and balance rotating assembly, modification of crank for better oiling, arp fasteners, gasket kit, new crank and block for 4.5k. If I go with cosworth forged bottom end it will cost me 5.5k

Installation and break in will cost me 2k, so a total of 7.5K if I go with cosworth.

Is that a good price? How do you like this setup?

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Why will break in cost you money?
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Old 04-09-2009, 10:22 AM   #6
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Why will break in cost you money?
they put it in the dyno and do the break in with regular oil and filter, and then after break in they put synthetic oil and new filter. So 2k for install + break in
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Old 04-09-2009, 10:38 AM   #7
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Or you can break it in yourself for free - well, the cost of oil changes.

There's no way I'd let anyone else break in my motor. Not saying I don't trust them, just saying that's something I'd want to do for myself. Plus it's fun.
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Old 04-09-2009, 12:05 PM   #8
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If its a smaller shop, I'd say no since Ron sells his RAW blocks for $4300 and he's pretty much the gold standard here (even over cossie IMHO).
I think Ron's raised his price to $4.5K for the "medium" build, but that also includes pauter rods. Also, I'd opine the "gold standard" has to be Cossie - they build to a far more rigorous ISO standard than anyone else and their work on the bare block alone set's them apart from everyone else. Now, whether or not that is consequential, much less worth it, is open to fair debate: there is NO doubt you pay extra for just the name and that dinky little badge they put on the block.
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Old 04-09-2009, 02:18 PM   #9
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I think Ron's raised his price to $4.5K for the "medium" build, but that also includes pauter rods. Also, I'd opine the "gold standard" has to be Cossie - they build to a far more rigorous ISO standard than anyone else and their work on the bare block alone set's them apart from everyone else. Now, whether or not that is consequential, much less worth it, is open to fair debate: there is NO doubt you pay extra for just the name and that dinky little badge they put on the block.
I don't know why you guys don't like Cosworth, they have the best quality and have been working on car engines longer than anyone else. Cosworth is not just a fancy name is a proven product, should me engine failures on Cosworth VS Axis / Raw performance
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