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Old 04-10-2009, 06:20 PM   #1
dentsport
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Join Date: Sep 2004
Chapter/Region: NESIC
Location: Norwood, MA/www.dentsport.com
Vehicle:
Shop Sport Service
781-551-3399

Default Endless Brake parts for Street and Track

We would like for people to give these a shot. We became dealers for Endless a few years ago and have used the pads in some serious events since then. We ran Endless' WRS brake pads at X GAMES and several Rally America events, Bill has been using their MA22B pad on his 240rs Maxi for 2 seasons now. He won GT Live twice with those pads.

The company has unquestionable quality in brake components, unfortunately for them, in the USA, many of their parts get onto cars for car shows and that changes the market's impression of what they're actually designed for. They are for competition. (Ask Honda F1) They have a large range of pads available, so many it can be confusing. Luckily we can call them for you and get exact information directly from the company and pinpoint the right application for you.

Some products I'd like to mention that we have for sale are the following.



Vita Nuova Pads. For a Brembo application they are $105 for front, and $105 for rear. That is the same price as a HAWK HPS pad and the intended use would be similar. It's a high performance road pad that can be used for auto-x. We will have these in stock next week. The HPS from Hawk is a very popular pad for us. We will be recommend them from here on as a primary option.



For a strict track we recommend the MA22b. The price is comparable to the Hawk Blue, or HT-10 as they used to call it. There are other options still for lighter cars like a Miata. The MA22b is a little bit over $300 for a front pad set.

For fluid we have two options from Endless-



RF-650 which I used in my Evo for an entire season without bleeding once. $33 for a half-liter. (Yes, it's more expensive than Motul 600 but it has both lower compressability and a higher boiling point which means you'll bleed it less!)



And something we'll be testing- S-four $30 for a liter. So it's basically the same price as Motul 600. We are recommending this fluid for street and auto-x where the temperatures are lower however we will be testing this fluid at hillclimbs and also the track to see exactly how much it will handle. Our test car is a Subaru. We feel that this fluid will be sufficient for track use but want to prove it.


Why buy from us?

We have friends at Endless that want us and you to succeed. We test what we use! (it's been two years of using Endless products and this is our first post about it)

How can you pay?

We use the old fashioned way- telephone 781-551-3399 we can ship them to you or you can pick them up.

Paypal!? Yes. we take it. sales@dentsport.com and be sure to call or email us for a total.


If anyone has any questions call us. We're happy to help.

Alex
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Old 04-11-2009, 12:20 PM   #2
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Very cool Alex. I have been looking at Endless parts for a while now, but like you said, a lot of their products end up on show cars.

I'll give the RF-650 fluid a try since you guys give it the DSG thumbs up. Gonna bring my car in once the doc clears me to drive (knee surgery). Do they have an intermediate pad more along the lines of HP Plus? Thinking of going for two piece rotors (DBA 5000's) so maybe I can run a more aggressive pad? I'll talk to you about rotor upgrades because I'm wondering if 4000's will be enough...

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Old 04-11-2009, 01:38 PM   #3
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Rinsed, I think for your STI that MX72 would be a good pad for the track. The MA22b is too much pad for the street so it can't really run double duty like the MX72. We'll have the fluid in stock for you when you're ready.

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Old 04-11-2009, 01:44 PM   #4
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I think that the 4000s will be enough. You could blow through a couple of those before reaching the price of a single set of 5000s. I thought I was logged in as the shop earlier. Sorry..

Switching to the 5000s will net you better heat dissipation and will probably effect the rotor temps but my guess is that it won't be enough to move a whole heat range down in pads. There are a lot of compounds but they do have a fairly wide operating temperature range within their intended use category.

That was perhaps a more complicated sentence than I intended.
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Old 04-11-2009, 01:52 PM   #5
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Thanks man. I will go with the 4000's then. Pads and fluid sound like they will suit my needs too, so I will call you guys in a week or so and setup an appointment. I just need to find a ride back so i can leave the car for sways, rotors, steering rack bushings, master cylinder brace, oil change, etc... Still don't have enough $$ for coilovers

Speak to you soon! Give my best to the rest of the crew
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