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Old 04-12-2009, 07:42 PM   #1
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Default Best Over/Under Shotgun for Trap/Skeet Shooting

So I have a Remington 870 12ga 28" pump action that I have used for trap and skeet.

I want a second gun, an Over/Under this time for the better balance, quicker 1, 2 shots and overall better use for trap and skeet shooting.

I want to stay with 12 gauge. What brands are the best?

I looked at a Stoeger and Remington 310 (manufactured by Baikal, Russian) at Dicks yesterday. The Rem was russian made and was not up to the quality of build the Stoeger had. I am not too familiar with the Stoeger brand. I'm in the middle of research on these and others.

WHAT OTHER BRANDS ARE THE BEST?
My price limit would be around $500 since I am just getting into the sport and don't want to spend $4k on a single gun.

STOEGER ($450)




REMINGTON 310 ($360)



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Old 04-12-2009, 07:49 PM   #2
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Browning makes some nice over/unders. I have 2 of their pumps and my dad has at least 2 o/u. Not sure what a Browning satori runs but look at their field grade models as well.
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Old 04-12-2009, 08:04 PM   #3
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As usual when it comes to guns, the one that fits you best will be the easiest to hit with. Buy that one.
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Old 04-12-2009, 08:26 PM   #4
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Old 04-12-2009, 08:30 PM   #5
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Ruger Red Label. /thread.

My father bought one years ago, loved it. Sold it a few years later. Missed it so much he bought a new one.
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Old 04-12-2009, 08:36 PM   #6
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how much do you want to spend?

sporting over/unders can get very expensive.
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Old 04-12-2009, 08:42 PM   #7
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Of the two you listed, I'd say get the Remington, but in over/under land you definately get what you pay for.

The Remington you pictured is essentially just a re-badged Baikal. I hunted quail last spring with a Baikal 20 and it felt great for a field grade gun, but I'm not sure how it will hold up in the long run with a high shot count clay games.
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Old 04-12-2009, 09:03 PM   #8
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how much do you want to spend?

sporting over/unders can get very expensive.
I'm guessing $500, since that is what he stated in the OP.

But, you are right, there are some really expensive shotguns out there. Like, $NEWCAR prices or even higher.
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Wish I was still overseas....my ship is supposed to pull into Turkey next. A Huglu shotgun is $Texas here, but over there they are like $200. You can even get a hand engraved model with lesbians riding unicycles for like $500. I'm no gun dork, but buying Huglus over in Turkey is THE best deal I've ever seen.
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http://www.beretta.com/Long-guns/Com...spx?m=82&idc=5

Doesn't meet the price requirements but I love my Silver pigeon S
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Beretta or Remington.
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much better



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Well I did some more research. It seems to be mixed for the Stoegers. Many people have had luck, some have had firing pins or similar failures on basically new guns. Some that have the Stoegers past 3-5 thousand rounds said the gun begins to wear out too.

Trap and Skeet and Sporting Clays are all different games, which should have dedicated guns. I'm looking for one I can use decently with all the games though.

I don't plan to sell the O/U during my lifetime, so it makes sense to me to get something more durable, better built, and obviously more expensive.

I haven't found any quad or oct-barrel guns but I do like the

Beretta 686 White Onyx 12ga. - $1540 @ Ramsey Outdoors


I would LOVE a Ruger Red Label 12ga. - $2000, but nobody has them


the CZ RedHead 12ga. - $995 looks like a good deal but they are hard to find also



Browning seems out of my price range. I would be okay with around $1000, and $1500 better be a really freaking amazing gun. I have to try them out in person to see which fits best before buying anything

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You can't go wrong with a beretta. I've got that exact gun you have there - the white onyx, it shoots great, it's dead reliable, and the workmanship is like nothing I've ever seen.
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Well I did some more research. It seems to be mixed for the Stoegers. Many people have had luck, some have had firing pins or similar failures on basically new guns. Some that have the Stoegers past 3-5 thousand rounds said the gun begins to wear out too.

Trap and Skeet and Sporting Clays are all different games, which should have dedicated guns. I'm looking for one I can use decently with all the games though.

I don't plan to sell the O/U during my lifetime, so it makes sense to me to get something more durable, better built, and obviously more expensive.

I haven't found any quad or oct-barrel guns but I do like the

Beretta 686 White Onyx 12ga. - $1540 @ Ramsey Outdoors
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This is the gun I'd go with if I were you.
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Browning Cynergy Euro Sporting with Adjustable Comb. Just a smidge over budget.

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I kill it shooting skeet with my Remington 1187. Has a skeet choke and short barrel. throw in the full choke for trap and im all set.

Plus the semi-auto will allow youto shoot longer (less recoil).
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i shot trap/skeet as a youth competitively


your going to spend $2k+ for a good O/U


i tried several brands and configurations - i ultimately went back to the 870, i was much faster and more accurate with it

i used to get funny looks from guys with $10k O/U until they were eliminated
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Why not go with a 20 gauge? The way it was explained to me, a 20 gauge will throw about the same sized shot cloud (about a 6 foot spread) as a 12 gauge without the recoil.
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^^

this may sound crazy - but 20g ammo and parts are harder to find than 12g

based mostly on popularity


not to mention that there is alot that can be done to reduce the 12g recoil
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I want to stick with 12g. My 870 is so I can share ammo between them. That Cynergy looks amazing, its around $4k it seems
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