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Old 04-30-2002, 08:07 PM   #76
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About the muffler: You can replace the muffler in any class. The rules are very vague about noise. "Any car deemed by the Event Chairman or his designated representative to be excessively loud shall not compete without acceptable modifications installed on the car." I think some regions have firmer noise restrictions.

This thread is intended for rule questions. If you want to start a discussion about if/when/how to protest, it might be better to start a new thread.

That being said: Pages 70-75 of the rulebook explain protests. I would go to an event official, they will at least be able to point you in the right direction. Each event has a protest committee, at our events the list of members is posted on the registration truck. If it's nothing major, especially at a local event, I would just go to the driver, and talk to him. I personally believe that it's always best to resolve issues in a constructive way if it's possible, and a protest might well result in bad blood.
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Old 05-02-2002, 04:26 PM   #77
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All of my mods seem to fit into the DSP except two listed below, could someone help me out. I have full STi drivetrain mounts, this includes motor+tranny+pitch stop+diff mounts, and my rear seat is removed/with lap belts so the dont clank around on the metal. which class should I be running, DSM?

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Old 05-02-2002, 05:05 PM   #78
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All of my mods seem to fit into the DSP except two listed below, could someone help me out. I have full STi drivetrain mounts, this includes motor+tranny+pitch stop+diff mounts, and my rear seat is removed/with lap belts so the dont clank around on the metal. which class should I be running, DSM?

PLEASE HELP, thanks.

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The diff mounts are not legal in Street prepared. It looks like your either in Street mod, or possibly one of the prepared classes.
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Old 05-02-2002, 05:29 PM   #79
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Yup, SM looks to be it for you.
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Old 05-02-2002, 10:54 PM   #80
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Oh well, doesn't affect how much fun Ill have, DSM it is.
Thank you guys for responding, I run this Sunday. second autocross!

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Old 05-03-2002, 01:48 AM   #81
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Street Mod is not a "category" like Street Prepared and Stock. This means it is just one big catch-all class. There is a Modified category that is classed AMod - EMod.
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Old 05-03-2002, 11:01 AM   #82
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Cool, I just went to check out the rules, I looked at SM and SM2. Looks like Im in SM . Rear seat removal allowed, diff mounts allowed, weight minimum 2,400 for AWD under 3 liters, and all of the allowances from Street Touring and Street Prepared carry over. Sweet. Thanks for everyones help.

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Old 05-03-2002, 10:04 PM   #83
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Best of all R-compound tires...!
I run the new Ecsta V700 and they are awsome!
STX will take a while to develope...Racing against some real(read experienced) competition in SM is the way to go for now!
last race...2nd place(by .098sec) to a fully prepped SS Camaro with a whole heck of alot of MOTOR !!!
Ran in the top 10's fast times all day! 22nd on the PAX!out of 126 cars!
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Old 05-03-2002, 10:20 PM   #84
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Best of all R-compound tires...!
I run the new Ecsta V700 and they are awsome!
STX will take a while to develope...Racing against some real(read experienced) competition in SM is the way to go for now!
last race...2nd place(by .098sec) to a fully prepped SS Camaro with a whole heck of alot of MOTOR !!!
Ran in the top 10's fast times all day! 22nd on the PAX!out of 126 cars!
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see, that my arguemnt for ESP. You can beat those moostangs and F-bodies in ESP. It's been done without the help of the rain
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Old 05-04-2002, 05:49 AM   #85
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the problem is just about anything you do to our motor puts you in SM... IC hoses, boost controller, ECU, decat
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Old 05-04-2002, 08:18 AM   #86
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I was just checking our results page...there were only like 11-12 times faster than mine...
22nd on the PAX...does SM have a tough index?
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Old 05-04-2002, 02:48 PM   #87
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Quick ? My cats are shot right now, and I was thinking of replacing it with a random tech hi-flo. I currently run DSP in local events. Will the hi-flo cat move me out of DSP and into SM or not?
I'm not really worried what class I run because I only do it for fun.
I just want to know the class in case I go to an SCCA event.

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Old 05-04-2002, 05:32 PM   #88
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the problem is just about anything you do to our motor puts you in SM... IC hoses, boost controller, ECU, decat

no no no.... only the boost controller and ECU replacement would put you in SM.

If you use the Vishnu stage 0 without the boost controller, it's ESP legal (the pullys are questionable, but you should be ok)
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Old 05-06-2002, 12:05 PM   #89
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Old 05-06-2002, 02:00 PM   #90
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ChrisW,
Read the last sentance on this page from an article by one of our local hot shoes...
http://www.alscca.org/solo2/tips.shtml

I just thought that was funny.
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Old 05-06-2002, 02:03 PM   #91
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I like his spelling better than mine
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Old 05-08-2002, 11:23 PM   #92
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I need some opinions...

Based upon the brake rules can you modify the pedel assembly (throttle, brake & clutch)

looking at the rules, it's not clear. My plan to remove/hack and or otherwise modify the brake system depends on my ability to modify the pedel assembly. My plan is to remove the brake booster, in case your interested.

why you might ask.... ever try LFB while under boost?

the fall back plan (read: the most likely senario) would be to add a vaccuum resevior in front of the brake booster.

But still, can we modify the pedel assemby in the rules for street prepared?
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Old 05-09-2002, 09:01 AM   #93
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Chris,

http://moutons.org/sccasolo/Rules/sp.html#s146

That's a good question. The ruling says you CAN remove the brake booster. Whether the resulting product of doing this is legal or not is unclear.

IMHO, modifying the pedal assembly is not legal. The ol' "if it doesn't say it" rigamarole.

If your intent is local events, who cares? National events is where you may fall into problems. Big block guys in ESP don't like getting beat by turbo 4-bangers.

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Old 05-09-2002, 10:18 AM   #94
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well, my intent is the nationals...


I think I can, I think I can, I think I can....

A couple of friends of mine entered the national tour in atwater. They didn't do to well, but it gave me a good indication of the level of compitition.

the question of the day is, in the street prepared rules, can I pull another 2 seconds on average? maybe. especially with more seat time.
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Old 05-11-2002, 04:49 PM   #96
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Well folks, come on out and help! On the StreetTouring mailing list, there is talk that STX needs to do well this year (its 1st year????), or it might not last till the next! This, next to SM, are the BEST classes to put modified WRX's in! It was darn near made for us. I will make another post just for this. The word needs to get out there!
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Old 05-12-2002, 09:45 PM   #97
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no no no.... only the boost controller and ECU replacement would put you in SM.

If you use the Vishnu stage 0 without the boost controller, it's ESP legal (the pullys are questionable, but you should be ok)
Huh I thought Vishnu stage 0 deleted a cat in the up pipe and I thought you couldn't do that in ESP?

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Old 05-12-2002, 10:36 PM   #98
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Huh I thought Vishnu stage 0 deleted a cat in the up pipe and I thought you couldn't do that in ESP?
That's fine in SP. Rule 14.10.E: "Emission control devices may be modified or removed." And maybe 14.10.H: "Exhaust manifolds and muffler systems are free, except that they must be quiet and terminate behind the driver."

The cat-less uppipe is even legal in STX now, after the latest rule revisions.
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Old 05-13-2002, 01:12 PM   #99
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I have a question on ECU replacement under street prepared.

This is not just a subie question but in general, can you replace the ECU with an aftermarket unit (direct replacement or by a chip)?

I am under the impresison that you can't and such a replacement would put you in SM. The reason I ask, is because aparently, some of the ESP members are running chipped cars at the recent national tour in atwater, CA.

I know that piggyback ECU's like the S-AFC and the unichip are legal, but a ECU replacement?
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Old 05-21-2002, 01:29 PM   #100
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So the aluminum A-arms put me in SM or SP or what?

Where do you guys get all of this info, from the rule books($$) or is there somewhere online with this stuff?

Also, where would STi trailing and lateral links put me(they've got pillow ball mounts instead of bushings)

And, kartboy endlinks(aluminum and smaller than stock...(change of location of sway bar...?))

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