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Old 04-13-2009, 11:36 PM   #1
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Coming back from Seattle last night, crossing the boarder at 9:20pm. Here is the routine:

Custom: Where did you go?
Me: Seattle Premium Outlet
Custom: How much did you spent?
Me: I looked at my receipts, then respond "$10"
Custom: Is this my car?
Me Yes
Custom: What do I do?
Me: I am a marketer
Customer: you got guns?
Me: No
Custom: pop your trunk and turn of your engine.
Me: ok.

Finally he finished searching my trunk, then returned into his bay and said I am free to go. But before I left, I kindly asked him for his badge # but he refused. The reason why I ask for his badge # is because I want it as a reference so that I could protect myself against any damage to my car. (Just like the situation that I am having right now.) Then he immediately responded " I have searched much nicer car then yours." I did not understand the purpose of that statement? And I also don't understand why he refuse to provide his badge # if he did everything by law?

Here are the photos that I took this afternoon when I found out my trunk was damage.


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Old 04-13-2009, 11:39 PM   #2
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The minute he refuses to give his/her badge #, you tell him/her you want to speak to their superintendent. Then the officer has no choice but to tell you their badge # AND get their superindendent.
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Old 04-13-2009, 11:44 PM   #3
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If i was alone, I would do it.....and my gf doesn't wanna make a big fuss out of it.....so i just took off..........and now i am pretty pissed about it.......and I just wrote a complaint letter to CBSA and hoping they would do something......

on second thought, we as a Canadian citiziens, we are just coming home, why are we being treated with bad attitude from Canadian customs???

I am sure once they enter my name into the computer, they wouldn't find anything becasue I have a CLEAN record.

why they like to **** with me?????
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Old 04-13-2009, 11:56 PM   #4
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That number you see velcroed to their kevlar is their badge number.

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Old 04-14-2009, 12:07 AM   #5
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This is retarded! That is not DAMAGE it is a piece of fabric that has been pulled out and can easily be put back. They CAN search your car for pretty well any reason at all. If they find ANYTHING that you had bought and didn't mention they can then go even deeper, strip search, tear apart your car and YOU Are responsible to put it back together.

You're lucky he didn't cavity search you...sounds like you need it.
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Old 04-14-2009, 12:19 AM   #6
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They can actually refuse to give you their badge #??

They can search, however they MUST have reasonable belief that you were hiding something in order to do that.
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Old 04-14-2009, 12:23 AM   #7
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I usually dont get hassled, but definitely got the full treatment this week. Had all my reciepts in order etc.

Don't take it personally they are looking for something and you just resembled it, as I did as well.
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Old 04-14-2009, 12:28 AM   #8
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They can actually refuse to give you their badge #??

They can search, however they MUST have reasonable belief that you were hiding something in order to do that.
The do NOT need reasonable belief to search your trunk, they can ask ANYONE for ANY REASON to search the trunk. These are NOT police, the laws that they must follow and procedures are different.

I'm not sure about having to give you their badge number and the procedure on that.
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Old 04-14-2009, 12:40 AM   #9
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they cannot refuse badge numbers. If you ask them their officer name they can refuse that, but policy on badge numbers is that they must notify you of that. They can simply tell you their number, but it's up to you to listen carefully and write it down.
Don't expect to borrow or ask them for a pen or paper.
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Old 04-14-2009, 01:05 AM   #10
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This is retarded! That is not DAMAGE it is a piece of fabric that has been pulled out and can easily be put back. They CAN search your car for pretty well any reason at all. If they find ANYTHING that you had bought and didn't mention they can then go even deeper, strip search, tear apart your car and YOU Are responsible to put it back together.

You're lucky he didn't cavity search you...sounds like you need it.
I have tried to put it back, but i won't. He actually pull it WITH force to stretch the fabric and now is deformed
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Old 04-14-2009, 01:06 AM   #11
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They can actually refuse to give you their badge #??

They can search, however they MUST have reasonable belief that you were hiding something in order to do that.
i don't mind them searching, because of the gun issuse up here...just do it professionally
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Old 04-14-2009, 01:07 AM   #12
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they cannot refuse badge numbers. If you ask them their officer name they can refuse that, but policy on badge numbers is that they must notify you of that. They can simply tell you their number, but it's up to you to listen carefully and write it down.
Don't expect to borrow or ask them for a pen or paper.
i got a pen and paper ready to write it down already
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Old 04-14-2009, 01:09 AM   #13
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The do NOT need reasonable belief to search your trunk, they can ask ANYONE for ANY REASON to search the trunk. These are NOT police, the laws that they must follow and procedures are different.

I'm not sure about having to give you their badge number and the procedure on that.
does the procedures include rudeness?
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Old 04-14-2009, 01:16 AM   #14
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They don't have to be polite to you. They are often rude or gruff or whatever to see how you react. Just because YOU know you are not doing anything wrong doesn't mean they do. Don't be so sensitive. Suck it up, tuck the fabric back in and stop being a whiner.
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Old 04-14-2009, 01:17 AM   #15
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well, i guess you've learned something new right?
If they are unprofessional, or whatever it is that has damaged you or your goods, and
if there is need to complain and appeal, always ask for higher uppers and request for the boss. It doesn't hurt to do so.
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Old 04-14-2009, 01:28 AM   #16
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Old 04-14-2009, 01:29 AM   #17
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If they want they can rip your hole car apart and leave standing there to leave you to put it back together, so call yourself lucky.
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Old 04-14-2009, 01:40 AM   #18
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They don't have to be polite to you. They are often rude or gruff or whatever to see how you react. Just because YOU know you are not doing anything wrong doesn't mean they do. Don't be so sensitive. Suck it up, tuck the fabric back in and stop being a whiner.
i guess you are more experience than i am, so i will take ur words for it tora
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Old 04-14-2009, 01:43 AM   #19
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it's part of their job dude. not much you can do about it.

water under the bridge man. just move on.

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Old 04-14-2009, 01:45 AM   #20
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I got strip searched, car ripped apart because my mom had left her candy container (used an old pill case) which was empty except for some powdered sugar residue. Car got thoroughly searched, but luckily no body panels came off because they tested and found it not to be a drug substance so they stopped the search. It took me about an hour to put everything back in place and be on my way. No complaints, they are doing their job.

I think as a society we are getting too pussed out and we complain about everything. I want to keep my freedoms but I also want the bad F-er's to not get away with stuff, if that means me getting searched form time to time, so be it. In the grand scheme of things it's really not that bad. It will take you two minutes to get that fabric back in place. You spent more time than that already posting this.
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Old 04-14-2009, 01:59 AM   #21
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That's why we have the 4th Amendment in the US...

too bad it doesn't protect us from crazy border searches.

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Old 04-14-2009, 02:00 AM   #22
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jesus H christ almighty.....you watch the news lately? people getting shot up every night and you're crying cause your fabric is sticking up a little bit...for christs sakes put some glue under it, press it down and you'll forget all about it....

they're doing their job...people are smuggling a metric **** ton of guns across everyday and you want them to be all polite and friendly and delicate with your car....and then at the same time you will bitch when you have to wait longer....

you complain about him not being polite...well why not take a lesson yourself? instead of being a punk ass kid and asking for his badge number try these simple steps:

1. Turn off your engine as soon as u pull up...nobody like talking over engine noise
2. Yes SIR, No SIR, not Yes, No, yea, yup nah...YES SIR or NO SIR....show some respect and you'll get it back
3. Know how much u spent without having to look at your receipts, hand the receipts to him with your passport.
4. DONT ASK FOR THE BADGE NUMBER....why would you do that? If you go back with a complaint tell them what time you went through and which lane, they know who was working....asking for a badge number is implying that you're going to make complaints...they will see this as you trying to intimidate them into not searching your car....

"does the procedure include rudeness"....get a ****ing grip.....
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Old 04-14-2009, 02:03 AM   #23
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That's why we have the 4th Amendment in the US...

yes since the 4th amendment says they cant search your car or person when crossing the border....have you ever crossed the border mr. constitution?
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Old 04-14-2009, 02:11 AM   #24
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Close the trunk and forget about it. My suitcases have done more damage than that to my trunk.
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Old 04-14-2009, 02:16 AM   #25
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yes since the 4th amendment says they cant search your car or person when crossing the border....have you ever crossed the border mr. constitution?
I have with my parents as a kid. Lately, nope I've not crossed the border since '98?

Too bad even the US government is ignoring the 4th.

I still remember the time we were coming home from Alaska where the Canadian customs officer asked my grandfather if he had any guns, knives, or other weapons and he replied, "Why do we need any?" Of course the CO didn't like that one bit.
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