ECUTEK Delta Dash rules!

fastburro · 04-16-2002, 10:27 PM

I just got my new ECUTEK Delta Dash ecu monitor hardware and software, and it is phenominal. It seems to have all the functionality of the Subaru Select monitor, while reading data MUCH faster! You can read all the Subaru specific data like front a/f sensor voltage, injector pulse width, EGT, knock correction, etc. You can data log all variables at rates exceeding 10/second, and the output graphing is very user friendly and readable. One 10 minute run and I know more about how my car is functioning than I have since the day I bought it. It's a bit pricey, but given the data that's available, and compared to the competition, it is a true bargain. The ECUTEK people are a pleasure to do business with, as well. VERY highly recommended.

Their website, for those who haven't heard of them already, is:

ECUTEK

Mark

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kensington · 04-16-2002, 10:54 PM

so how much is that in $'s ?

fastburro · 04-17-2002, 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kensington
so how much is that in $'s ?

About $280. Compared to several thousand for a Subaru Select monitor.

Mark

RiftsWRX · 04-17-2002, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by fastburro

About $280. Compared to several thousand for a Subaru Select monitor.

Mark

Damn... that is VERY cheap.

Jorge (RiftsWRX)
www.ProjectWRX.com

titsataki · 04-17-2002, 09:59 AM

does it calculate injector duty cycle?
Just curious.

Nick

mlambert · 04-17-2002, 09:59 AM

hrm...i bet i could talk the pdx guys to pitch in and buy one for the whole group to use. Thats very cheap, have to look into this!

RiftsWRX · 04-17-2002, 10:08 AM

OK... that's it.. I'm getting one.

Jorge (RiftsWRX)
www.ProjectWRX.com

Conduit · 04-17-2002, 10:29 AM

My god, did you notice that it will allow you to alter ignition timing? Can you tell us what kind of granularity it gives? This is really quite impressive.
take care,
rob

RiftsWRX · 04-17-2002, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Conduit
My god, did you notice that it will allow you to alter ignition timing? Can you tell us what kind of granularity it gives? This is really quite impressive.
take care,
rob

Exactly!!! I was reading that... talk about a poor man's ITC!!!!

PERFECT for test and tune days at the track when your computers being a bitch and pulling your timing. (like me last night!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Until I get my new management system going, this will help with the stock ECU timing BS.

Jorge (RiftsWRX)
www.ProjectWRX.com

d00f · 04-17-2002, 10:56 AM

Where does it plug in on your car? I've got a different ECU and it's not hooked up to the diagnostics port. Hopefully they can talk to my ECU. WRX STi IV V.4.

-Michael

Conduit · 04-17-2002, 11:02 AM

I just emailed them to determine the granularity of it. I hope it's more than a single value, but who knows

What I like is that it's IN the ecu, not on a piggy back, so it won't learn around it.

And Jorge, you have mail

RiftsWRX · 04-17-2002, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Conduit
I just emailed them to determine the granularity of it. I hope it's more than a single value, but who knows What I like is that it's IN the ecu, not on a piggy back, so it won't learn around it.

And Jorge, you have mail

I'm at work bud, I won't see it till later on tonight. If you want email me at work. jcarrill@cginc.net

Thanks,
Jorge (RiftsWRX)
www.ProjectWRX.com

mynew02 · 04-17-2002, 11:39 AM

Just ordered mine over the phone... around $320 or so with shipping...

I'm excited about this...

mynew02 · 04-17-2002, 11:45 AM

I think it plugs into your OBD port. He says sampling rate is 20 milliseconds...

Conduit · 04-17-2002, 11:57 AM

Here is an update on the timing control (and their ecu). I have already contacted them about the serial reprogrammer for our shop when it becomes available. So there may be an ECU reprogramming option for those in Florida/Georgia
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Rob

Thank you for your enquiry.

We offer a limited adjustment of the ignition timing across the whole ignition maps.

This is just a compensation for poor fuel or to act as a trim if when logging the car using DeltaDash you pick up some det.

We are working on being able to serially re-program the ECU via the diagnostic port but this will be a major piece of software allowing access to all ECU parameters (and there are a lot of them!!)

The DeltaDash is available as a single car license for 209 GB Pounds including shipping. It is a very powerful piece of software and comes complete with cables and interface. The single car license means you can access the one car you choose from our list (probably the 2002 WRX and then you can read any 2002WRX on any laptop, not just your car, as long as you use the software protection dongle.

You supply the laptop!

Please look at the web site for further information.

Please do not hesitate to contact me if you require any further information

Regards

David Power

*****************************
EcuTeK
8 Union Buildings
Wallingford Road
Uxbridge
UB8 2FR
ENGLAND

Tel: (+44) 01895 811200
Fax: (+44) 01895 811611
sales@ecutek.com
www.ecutek.com
*****************************

mynew02 · 04-17-2002, 12:45 PM

Just curious... how do you go about converting voltage to actual numbers? For instance how do you convert voltage of your front 02 sensor to an a/f ratio?

-Jonathan

kensington · 04-17-2002, 01:35 PM

fastburro - Sounds like you are going to be the answer man until more people get these things installed.

Have you looked into the timing adjustment aspect ?

How does this connect to the ECU ?

Pulling info from the factory EGT sensor ? THis is the one in the uppipe correct ? If so that's kind of far up isn't it ?

And most importantly...how long did it take you to get it ?

RiftsWRX · 04-17-2002, 01:52 PM

I ordered mine today, I'll let you know how long it takes me.

Jorge (RiftsWRX)
www.ProjectWRX.com

kensington · 04-17-2002, 02:06 PM

So should I be as excited about this as I am ?

Question about the timing, I downloaded the demo and it let's you adjust 5 degrees. Since that is the only variable in that window are we to assume it's 5 degrees across the board at all RPM and it's retard only ?

So it uses all factory sensors but can collect data at a very high speed for a more detailed resolution. In the future it could possibly be used to reprogram the ECU. Does it capture Subaru specific data that Alex Pepper's currently does not ? Just trying to get all the info. possible, I already have Alex's scanner, this appears to be a "gather more granular data" version ?

dwx · 04-17-2002, 02:23 PM

Looks like very nice OBD-2 software for not all that much.

RiftsWRX · 04-17-2002, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dwx
Looks like very nice OBD-2 software for not all that much.

No.. this is MUCH better then any OBD-II software out there... the sample rate is UNGODLY! Plus you can do subaru protocol specific things with this, Things you can't do with OBD. But... it DOES sound like this will not (like OBD will not) work with aftermarket ECU's

Jorge (RiftsWRX)
www.ProjectWRX.com

mynew02 · 04-17-2002, 04:33 PM

They told me I should have it in a few days...

mynew02 · 04-17-2002, 04:48 PM

As I see in the demo, it looks like you don't get a reading of knock but of knock correction. I wish we could see the voltage the sensor sends to the ECU...

WRChris · 04-17-2002, 05:07 PM

can this program give you fuel pressure? i thought i saw on one of the other scan tools that it read fuel pressure. i didnt see it in the demo software though

PadreWRX · 04-17-2002, 11:02 PM

Does this work with the Unichip (mine's Cobb-tuned)?

Padre

04-16-2002, 10:27 PM	#1
fastburro Scooby Newbie Member#: 10503 Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Outside the envelope Vehicle: 02 WRX wagon black	ECUTEK Delta Dash rules! I just got my new ECUTEK Delta Dash ecu monitor hardware and software, and it is phenominal. It seems to have all the functionality of the Subaru Select monitor, while reading data MUCH faster! You can read all the Subaru specific data like front a/f sensor voltage, injector pulse width, EGT, knock correction, etc. You can data log all variables at rates exceeding 10/second, and the output graphing is very user friendly and readable. One 10 minute run and I know more about how my car is functioning than I have since the day I bought it. It's a bit pricey, but given the data that's available, and compared to the competition, it is a true bargain. The ECUTEK people are a pleasure to do business with, as well. VERY highly recommended. Their website, for those who haven't heard of them already, is: ECUTEK Mark * Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

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d00f Scooby Specialist Member#: 6000 Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Ottawa, Canada Vehicle: 2000 GC8 STi V4 swap BRP	Where does it plug in on your car? I've got a different ECU and it's not hooked up to the diagnostics port. Hopefully they can talk to my ECU. WRX STi IV V.4. -Michael

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Conduit Scooby Specialist Member#: 6162 Join Date: Apr 2001 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Orlando, FL. USA Vehicle: 2002 WRX MBP, 1st WRX Ever in FL.	I just emailed them to determine the granularity of it. I hope it's more than a single value, but who knows What I like is that it's IN the ecu, not on a piggy back, so it won't learn around it. And Jorge, you have mail

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mynew02 Scooby Specialist Member#: 13726 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Maryland Vehicle: 2002 WRX - 264 AWHP ION-Turbo&LINK 12.83@106	Just ordered mine over the phone... around $320 or so with shipping... I'm excited about this...

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Conduit Scooby Specialist Member#: 6162 Join Date: Apr 2001 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Orlando, FL. USA Vehicle: 2002 WRX MBP, 1st WRX Ever in FL.	Here is an update on the timing control (and their ecu). I have already contacted them about the serial reprogrammer for our shop when it becomes available. So there may be an ECU reprogramming option for those in Florida/Georgia ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rob Thank you for your enquiry. We offer a limited adjustment of the ignition timing across the whole ignition maps. This is just a compensation for poor fuel or to act as a trim if when logging the car using DeltaDash you pick up some det. We are working on being able to serially re-program the ECU via the diagnostic port but this will be a major piece of software allowing access to all ECU parameters (and there are a lot of them!!) The DeltaDash is available as a single car license for 209 GB Pounds including shipping. It is a very powerful piece of software and comes complete with cables and interface. The single car license means you can access the one car you choose from our list (probably the 2002 WRX and then you can read any 2002WRX on any laptop, not just your car, as long as you use the software protection dongle. You supply the laptop! Please look at the web site for further information. Please do not hesitate to contact me if you require any further information Regards David Power *************************** EcuTeK 8 Union Buildings Wallingford Road Uxbridge UB8 2FR ENGLAND Tel: (+44) 01895 811200 Fax: (+44) 01895 811611 sales@ecutek.com www.ecutek.com ***************************

04-17-2002, 12:45 PM	#16
mynew02 Scooby Specialist Member#: 13726 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Maryland Vehicle: 2002 WRX - 264 AWHP ION-Turbo&LINK 12.83@106	Just curious... how do you go about converting voltage to actual numbers? For instance how do you convert voltage of your front 02 sensor to an a/f ratio? -Jonathan

04-17-2002, 01:35 PM	#17
kensington Scooby Specialist Member#: 9113 Join Date: Aug 2001 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Clarkston, MI. Vehicle: 2k4 WRB STi RIP#92 Fred"G-Money"Zippy	fastburro - Sounds like you are going to be the answer man until more people get these things installed. Have you looked into the timing adjustment aspect ? How does this connect to the ECU ? Pulling info from the factory EGT sensor ? THis is the one in the uppipe correct ? If so that's kind of far up isn't it ? And most importantly...how long did it take you to get it ?

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kensington Scooby Specialist Member#: 9113 Join Date: Aug 2001 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Clarkston, MI. Vehicle: 2k4 WRB STi RIP#92 Fred"G-Money"Zippy	So should I be as excited about this as I am ? Question about the timing, I downloaded the demo and it let's you adjust 5 degrees. Since that is the only variable in that window are we to assume it's 5 degrees across the board at all RPM and it's retard only ? So it uses all factory sensors but can collect data at a very high speed for a more detailed resolution. In the future it could possibly be used to reprogram the ECU. Does it capture Subaru specific data that Alex Pepper's currently does not ? Just trying to get all the info. possible, I already have Alex's scanner, this appears to be a "gather more granular data" version ?

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dwx Scooby Guru Member#: 8343 Join Date: Jul 2001 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Atlanta, GA Vehicle: 2005 2012 Jeep 2013 DGM BRZ	Looks like very nice OBD-2 software for not all that much.

04-17-2002, 04:33 PM	#22
mynew02 Scooby Specialist Member#: 13726 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Maryland Vehicle: 2002 WRX - 264 AWHP ION-Turbo&LINK 12.83@106	They told me I should have it in a few days...

04-17-2002, 04:48 PM	#23
mynew02 Scooby Specialist Member#: 13726 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Maryland Vehicle: 2002 WRX - 264 AWHP ION-Turbo&LINK 12.83@106	As I see in the demo, it looks like you don't get a reading of knock but of knock correction. I wish we could see the voltage the sensor sends to the ECU...

04-17-2002, 05:07 PM	#24
WRChris Scooby Newbie Member#: 13418 Join Date: Dec 2001 Vehicle: 2002 WRX blur	can this program give you fuel pressure? i thought i saw on one of the other scan tools that it read fuel pressure. i didnt see it in the demo software though

04-17-2002, 11:02 PM	#25
PadreWRX Scooby Specialist Member#: 5311 Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Carrollton, Georgia Vehicle: 2004 GTO 11.2 @ 123 Was 4EAT '02 WRX 13.1@104	Does this work with the Unichip (mine's Cobb-tuned)? Padre