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Old 04-15-2009, 08:52 PM   #1
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Haven't seen one of these threads pop up in a while (or I just ignore them by now), look through this and give me suggestions or replacements for parts I have.

The goal for this system is to be able to play modern games on decent settings, and to have it last at least 3 or so years before I absolutely have to replace the components (like the current system I'm on right now).

CPU: AMD Phenom 2.3 QuadCore

Motherboard: GIGABYTE GAMA790X-UD4P

PSU: Corsair 650w

Video Card: ASUS HD4850

RAM: G.SKILL 2x2GB DDR2-1066 (5-6-6-18)

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Old 04-15-2009, 09:00 PM   #2
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what OS?

completely opposite of the setup i just built but still looks sound. I'm really in love with my ASUS mobo, never had a gigabyte one, gotta be better than MSI thought. videocard: asus, good brand. I've had equal number of problems with ATI and nVidia cards so i guess i'm unbiased towards either
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Old 04-15-2009, 09:10 PM   #3
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I don't know, I have had 2 MSI MBs and never had an issue. Right now I have 2 desktops that I have built running in the house, One is our printer/file server (and dual display office compute) running an ASUS. The other is a college kid's computer running an MSI. No real decernable difference, even in overclocking capabilities.
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Old 04-15-2009, 09:15 PM   #4
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AMD=fail.

Not sure on the Corsair PSU or what components they are using these days. If they still use the Sparkle stuff, its probably ok, but if it were me, Id pony up a few more $$$ for a Zippy/PC P&C/Enermax if at all possible.
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Old 04-15-2009, 09:17 PM   #5
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Fail.

Win:
CPU: Intel Core i7 920
Cooler: Thermalright Ultra-120
MB: EVGA x58
RAM: 6GB Corsair DDR3 (or 12GB if you so desire. Cheap.)
Card: EVGA GTX 265
PSU: Corsair 750TX



Have mine overclocked to 3.8ghz on air, running cool and 100% stable, on 12GB of Corsair 9-9-9-2 (i think) 1333 clock DDR3. I'm in love with it.
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Old 04-15-2009, 09:27 PM   #6
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Yeah but that is more than twice the cost of his system.
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Old 04-15-2009, 09:27 PM   #7
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Great, I can't stand the sound of screaming fans, so this is all water cooled.

Oh and was that sub $600? I don't think so. 12GB of RAM? You're running oh about 8GB over what is even necessary today. (Unless you're doing rendering or video editing)

It will be running Windows XP x64 until Windows 7 comes out.

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Old 04-15-2009, 09:33 PM   #8
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AMD fanboy circa 2004 = no complaints from me.
AMD fanboy circa 2009 = FAIL
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Old 04-15-2009, 09:36 PM   #9
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AMD fanboy circa 2004 = no complaints from me.
AMD fanboy circa 2009 = FAIL
If you're calling me an AMD fanboy, I'm certainly not.

Show me a quadcore, motherboard, and video card selection that is comparably priced, and shows higher performance, and I'll GLADLY choose that over what I currently have selected.

$100 for CPU
$100 for Motherboard
$140 max for GPU
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Old 04-15-2009, 09:51 PM   #10
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AMD fanboy circa 2004 = no complaints from me.
AMD fanboy circa 2009 = FAIL
fanboy period = fail

grow up, he built a decent system, you are just pissed off because you probably paid more for a comparably specd system.

i have both AMD and intel running in the house, both have thier uses.


grow up and be objective,
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Old 04-15-2009, 11:26 PM   #11
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new amd and gaming doesn't really go together sir.... shoot, you could at least get a Q6600 for cheap and it would be better
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Old 04-16-2009, 12:09 AM   #12
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Like I said: Give me a list of some components, and I'll gladly consider them.

Not just "a Q6600," as that doesn't tell me a whole bunch except the processor.

Edit: Looking at prices for an OEM Q6600, you're overshooting my budget by at least $90.
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Old 04-16-2009, 12:59 AM   #13
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go with the phenom II, AMD worked out all the bugs and its a much better processor now.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103648



also, the 3rd core can be unlocked.
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Old 04-16-2009, 01:06 AM   #14
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If you're going AMD, I'd suck it up and go with the Phenom II/AM3/DDR3. It will run you an extra $70-100, but IMHO it gives you a lot better overhead.

If you're primarily interested in gaming, the Phenom II 720 BE is running comparable to the Core 2 Duo E8400 in most benchmarks. It also has an unlocked multiplier and the potential to unlock the fourth core.

I'd say for a budget build, the E8400 vs. the 720BE is the sweet spot. For those dismissing AMD out of hand, look at the comparos for yourself. Obviously Intel is still dominating the top of the market, but in the middle region where most of us shop, AMD has become competitive again.
CPU: AMD Phenom II 720 Black Edition: $135
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-MA790XT-UD4P: $125 (MIR)
RAM: G.Skill 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3-1333: $60
Total: $320 vs. your original $250

I think for gaming the 720BE is far superior, especially if you overclock. The 720BE routinely hits 3.6-3.8GHz on air.

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Old 04-16-2009, 02:33 AM   #15
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If you go with a DDR2 board, I'd recommend this memory, it's $5 more than the stuff you selected, with tighter timings.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231209

Also, how firm is your budget on the video card? I'd recommend stepping up to an ATI 4870 or Nvidia 260. The Asus and HIS 4870 512MB cards would be a $35 increase, the Nvidia stuff about $40.
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Old 04-16-2009, 03:05 AM   #16
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Yeah but that is more than twice the cost of his system.
He never outlined a budget.

I've always gone with "you pay for what you get" and this certainly applies with computers. My setup will run him about $1000.
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Old 04-16-2009, 07:13 AM   #17
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first of all, you CANNOT downplay the performance vs cost advantage of AMD. i build pc's for a living. i build phenoms nearly every week. granted the new i7 from intel or hell, the core2 quad is a nicer chip, however, the overall cost is quite a bit higher. ive yet to see major quality issues from AMD, howerver gigabyte is a questionable board manufac IMHO. really it depends what you want to do with the system. the AM3/DDR3 combo is fast, but the cost of ddr3 vs ddr2 makes it up to you how much you wanna invest. the GPU is irrelevant, as 90% of GPU's work with anything. basically, choose components that fit your budget. you can build a quadcore machine for <600 total. or, you can spend 1200 and get a mildly faster system. or you can spend 2000 and get a monster. but for 600, the system you described will suit you fine, the only component you will need to upgrade is probably the graphics card in a couple years.
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