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Old 04-17-2009, 01:34 AM   #1
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Thought we would share about one of our standard packages.

Crawford Performance S5 Short Block (2.65 liter)
Crawford Performance CP35R Turbo Kit (.82 A/R)
Crawford Performance FMIC A/O Separator
Crawford Performance Headers
Crawford Performance FMIC
Crawford Performance CAI
720cc Injectors & Walbro Fuel Pump
Stock Heads, Cams, Valves, Springs
EcuTeK EasyECU and Dyno Tuning
California 91 Octane Only
23 PSI by 4000 RPM's




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Old 04-17-2009, 09:40 AM   #2
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Good results... otherwise this is a high reading dyno. (based on the stock plot)

What IDC are you running? Stock fuel pressure?
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Old 04-17-2009, 10:05 AM   #3
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Good results... otherwise this is a high reading dyno. (based on the stock plot)

What IDC are you running? Stock fuel pressure?
good luck with those two questions.... 720cc injectors and one Walbro Fuel Pump on a 35r makes bannana sad . why such tiny injectors on such a good setup???
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Old 04-17-2009, 10:33 AM   #4
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good luck with those two questions.... 720cc injectors and one Walbro Fuel Pump on a 35r makes bannana sad . why such tiny injectors on such a good setup???

so funny and so true, What is the cost of this STANDARD package ?
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Old 04-17-2009, 12:16 PM   #5
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Old 04-17-2009, 12:28 PM   #6
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Lets do some math:

Stock = 250whp

Power Now = 443.5whp

Total Gain = 188.5whp

so on a mustang that 388whp on a GT35R with 23psi and a 2.65L????


That is alot of money for a little bit of power. Do not get me wrong, your stuff is nice, but to much money for something that looks pretty and does not make power.
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Old 04-17-2009, 02:33 PM   #7
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I can bet the tune is pretty conservative especially with those size injectors. There should be more yieldable power with some proper size injectors and pumps.
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Old 04-17-2009, 02:45 PM   #8
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Why would you build a 2.65L and not do ANY headwork.
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Old 04-17-2009, 02:46 PM   #9
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Why would you build a 2.65L and not do ANY headwork.
curious to know as well.
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Old 04-17-2009, 03:29 PM   #10
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Damn nice numbers man
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Old 04-17-2009, 03:37 PM   #11
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I disagree. Those numbers aren't nice at all given the stock power is referenced. No offense but this is almost sad and pitiful at the same time.
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Old 04-17-2009, 05:01 PM   #12
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Why would you build a 2.65L and not do ANY headwork.
That ones easy… we weren’t planning on running the motor above 7500 RPM.

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Old 04-17-2009, 05:06 PM   #13
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good luck with those two questions.... 720cc injectors and one Walbro Fuel Pump on a 35r makes bannana sad . why such tiny injectors on such a good setup???
What would be the benefit to this setup if we had larger injectors?

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Old 04-17-2009, 05:08 PM   #14
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Damn nice numbers man
Thanks! We thought so as well

These are the best numbers we have ever made on pump gas.

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Old 04-17-2009, 05:22 PM   #15
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Thanks! We thought so as well

These are the best numbers we have ever made on pump gas.

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for how much?
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Old 04-17-2009, 05:23 PM   #16
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The best part about this thread is this:

Cliff Notes:

1. 99% of people on nasioc don't understand atomization.
2. 2 different people tried to compare dyno's between eachother No one will ever learn on here.
3. 188whp increase over stock on 91 pump gas is pathetic. LMFAO
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Old 04-17-2009, 05:35 PM   #17
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Quirt and Bill here's what I say,

Nice power on pump! That's 50whp greater than what I had on the same dyno win an OEM motor. There's a good amount of area under the curve shown in the dyno graph. I bet the torque graph is nuts.

Would like to hear more about the CP Headers. Ported stockers or a new design?



For Jaun, by "standard" (without speaking for Crawford) is probably what they mean by a setup that's tried and true, race winning and proven, with dozens of customers having this package. I also have a "standard" package.......only mine is an OEM motor with 40k on the clock.

My guess is 85% IDC with OEM fuel pressure regulator, rails, and lines.

What do I win?
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Old 04-17-2009, 05:55 PM   #18
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Old 04-17-2009, 06:37 PM   #19
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I thought I-speed was no longer a vendor on nasioc after the whole bobble head debacle and some other stuff that wasn't mentioned.

Either way they've always been polite and curtious despite the bashing and a near 200 whp increase over stock is impressive to me.
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Old 04-17-2009, 11:55 PM   #20
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Seems pretty respectable for 91 octane.

The 720 injectors surprised me too, but if the car is holding reasonable AFR then perhaps what's messed up is everyone's perception of how much fuel flow is required for 440whp.

Plots showing AFR together with IPW or IDC would settle that question.
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Old 04-18-2009, 11:54 PM   #21
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Amazing numbers for 91 octane!!! My buddy makes just over that in his EVO IX on 91 and makes 600whp on E85. Don't listen to the nay sayers.
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Old 04-19-2009, 04:39 AM   #22
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That ones easy… we weren’t planning on running the motor above 7500 RPM.

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Unfortunately, this client did run his motor over that (missed shift)...

...but it gave us the chance to get some nice pictures!!









I'm sure you know where those were taken, so you can contact Noah & Adam if you'd like some full size (non-watermarked) versions...

...I'm sure they'll be happy to sell them to you.

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Old 04-19-2009, 12:49 PM   #23
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Thx for sharing guys,
as usual CP rocks
btw my S5 & CP35R Turbo kit (549 whp on pump + meth,27psi)is still running Gr8 after 43000 MILES



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Hi All,

Thought we would share about one of our standard packages.

Crawford Performance S5 Short Block (2.65 liter)
Crawford Performance CP35R Turbo Kit (.82 A/R)
Crawford Performance FMIC A/O Separator
Crawford Performance Headers
Crawford Performance FMIC
Crawford Performance CAI
720cc Injectors & Walbro Fuel Pump
Stock Heads, Cams, Valves, Springs
EcuTeK EasyECU and Dyno Tuning
California 91 Octane Only
23 PSI by 4000 RPM's




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Old 04-19-2009, 02:28 PM   #24
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Unfortunately, this client did run his motor over that (missed shift)...

...but it gave us the chance to get some nice pictures!!









I'm sure you know where those were taken, so you can contact Noah & Adam if you'd like some full size (non-watermarked) versions...

...I'm sure they'll be happy to sell them to you.


This thing just keeps running and running and just killing it on the track (which is a few times a month now; since new owner bought it I think it has another 8 events under its belt).

And yes when you make multiple mistakes like missing shifts and wastegate line comes loose hitting over 40+psi..well there is only so much a motor can handle, and for the new customer of the car; its a learning experience.

car will be back on the track for its event in a few weeks

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and BTW to the original poster, great power numbers on pump gas IMHO.

-Noah
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