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Old 04-13-2009, 12:17 PM   #1
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The Maryland General Assembly yesterday gave final approval to a measure that will expand the use of speed cameras to every part of the state, allowing cameras on high-volume freeways for the first time. Lawmakers in Annapolis, at the urging of Governor Martin O'Malley (D), saw the measure as an essential means of reining in the state's run-away budget deficit. Traffic camera vendors also helped promote the effort with lavish gifts, parties and campaign donations.

The new legislation specifically authorizes the use of speed cameras anywhere in the state up to one-half a mile away from a school zone. School zone cameras can operate as late as 8pm and ticket motorists regardless of whether school is in session. It also creates a statewide freeway camera program designed to be used in so-called "work zones" where the speed limit is lowered, regardless of whether workers are actually present. On a freeway that ordinarily has a 55 MPH speed limit, for example, citations would be issued to anyone driving 57 MPH in the lowered speed zone. For-profit private companies are authorized to take charge of all aspects of the program.

Lawmakers turned aside a number of amendments intended to clarify the true purpose of the program. One rejected provision would have returned any profit from the program to the public in the form of a tax credit. Another would have required weekly calibrations be performed to ensure the accuracy of the tickets. Lawmakers also rejected an amendment that would have ensured that state legislators were not exempt from receiving photo radar tickets. They also turned down an amendment that would have printed on each ticket the names of lawmakers responsible for voting the camera bill into law.

The only limitation adopted was a provision limiting cities from using speed cameras to increase their general fund budgets by more than ten percent. This amendment was aimed at Chevy Chase, which doubled its annual revenue with photo ticketing.

After Governor O'Malley signs the bill it will take effect October 1. A copy of the legislation is available in a 350k PDF file at the source link below
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Old 04-13-2009, 12:24 PM   #2
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Lawmakers also rejected an amendment that would have ensured that state legislators were not exempt from receiving photo radar tickets.
Great, so the legislature will be immune to speed cameras
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Old 04-13-2009, 12:27 PM   #3
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I'll just repost my comment from the OT thread:

They'd rather steal more taxpayer money than cut their absolute ****ing absurd clownshoe ****tard socialist spending.

Dons tin foil cap: There will be another American revolution in the next 50 years.
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Old 04-13-2009, 12:38 PM   #4
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Dons tin foil cap: There will be another American revolution in the next 50 years.
If only Americans were as intelligent as they were in the 1700's it might happen. Too bad most of us are apathetic slaves.
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Old 04-13-2009, 12:40 PM   #5
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the number of states i can drive through is dwindling.
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Old 04-13-2009, 12:54 PM   #6
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umm... whats wrong with obeying the speed limits again?... i have no idea why some of you are whining about this.
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Old 04-13-2009, 01:08 PM   #7
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the number of states i can drive through is dwindling.
Pretty soon you won't be allowed to travel to other states without paying a fee at the state line after your car and rectal cavity are searched.
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Old 04-13-2009, 01:19 PM   #8
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umm... whats wrong with obeying the speed limits again?... i have no idea why some of you are whining about this.
Nothing's wrong with obeying the speed limits. It's the law that's the problem. It's filled with loopholes and potential for abuse.

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On a freeway that ordinarily has a 55 MPH speed limit, for example, citations would be issued to anyone driving 57 MPH in the lowered speed zone
What if you're driving a car with an incorrectly calibrated speedometer? You could end up getting tickets when you thought you were obeying the law. The margin between obeying and disobeying the law is much too slim.

At least if you're pulled over by a trooper you can plead your case.

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Lawmakers in Annapolis, at the urging of Governor Martin O'Malley (D), saw the measure as an essential means of reining in the state's run-away budget deficit.
It's for revenue generation, at the expense of the citizens traveling there.

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One rejected provision... would have required weekly calibrations be performed to ensure the accuracy of the tickets.
System errors can result in someone who's entirely obeying the law to receive a ticket.

Also, if someone else is driving your car, who gets the ticket? Probably the car owner.

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Lawmakers also rejected an amendment that would have ensured that state legislators were not exempt from receiving photo radar tickets.
Ridiculous. It's a terrible law, and is another example of government corruption and inability.
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Old 04-13-2009, 01:25 PM   #9
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Old 04-13-2009, 01:52 PM   #10
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What if you're driving a car with an incorrectly calibrated speedometer? You could end up getting tickets when you thought you were obeying the law. The margin between obeying and disobeying the law is much too slim.

Speed laws have always been cases of strict liability. It doesn't matter what you believed or when or how you knew it. If you're breaking a speed law, you're responsible.
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Old 04-13-2009, 01:55 PM   #11
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System errors can result in someone who's entirely obeying the law to receive a ticket.

Also, if someone else is driving your car, who gets the ticket? Probably the car owner.
That's what courts of law are for. To declare your innocence and plead your case.
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Old 04-13-2009, 02:20 PM   #12
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umm... whats wrong with obeying the speed limits again?... i have no idea why some of you are whining about this.
So you really want to drive 65mph on I-95?
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Old 04-13-2009, 02:34 PM   #13
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Speed laws have always been cases of strict liability. It doesn't matter what you believed or when or how you knew it. If you're breaking a speed law, you're responsible.
If you've ever been pulled over, you know that to not be the case. Officers have discretion to issue warnings and/or lower the severity of tickets.
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That's what courts of law are for. To declare your innocence and plead your case.
It's not clear whether or not you can dispute the tickets, though I'm hoping you can.
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Have they started the online petition yet?
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Old 04-13-2009, 02:42 PM   #16
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-1 from states I'm willing to live in.
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Old 04-13-2009, 04:29 PM   #17
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99% revenuew creation 1% law enforcemet . it's not about safety is about the money. god bless america, the beacon of freedom on the human race.
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Old 04-13-2009, 04:30 PM   #18
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arizona has speed cameras also, read all the problems and issues about them.
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Old 04-13-2009, 04:44 PM   #19
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I find it funny how many people are trying to defend this. How about this for a thought, drugs are illegal, so lets have mandatory drug tests every time you go and check the mail. How about every time you start your car a report is sent to a central private corporate office that works for profit giving the exact standing of your car and if it fails (i.e. no cats) then you get a nice ticket. How about the government hire the sister company of the previously mentioned to keep track of every dollar that you get and spend. After all, if you are not doing anything illegal then you don't have to worry about it, right?

Oh and as a finale, lets have members of the government be completely immune to all of these things as they are "respectable" and would never do anything wrong.

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How about every time you start your car a report is sent to a central private corporate office that works for profit giving the exact standing of your car and if it fails (i.e. no cats) then you get a nice ticket.
GMs working on it with OnStar.
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Old 04-13-2009, 09:06 PM   #21
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umm... whats wrong with obeying the speed limits again?... i have no idea why some of you are whining about this.
I can't believe anyone could think that that is what this is about?! It is about privacy, the right to face your accuser, extenuating circumstances--there are so many things wrong with this it is incredible anyone would support it.
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What if you're driving a car with an incorrectly calibrated speedometer? You could end up getting tickets when you thought you were obeying the law. The margin between obeying and disobeying the law is much too slim.
If you fail to have your speedo calibrated it your own fault and not an excuse for breaking the law.
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If you fail to have your speedo calibrated it your own fault and not an excuse for breaking the law.
No matter how anyone tries to spin this it is a money making scheme pure and simple. It's primary concern is not public safety. MD citizens need to act now or it will be to late.
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No matter how anyone tries to spin this it is a money making scheme pure and simple. It's primary concern is not public safety. MD citizens need to act now or it will be to late.
I'm not one to defend cameras and their use, however reading the above the cameras are only to be used 1/2mile away from a school or during road works; as such it is not as bad as it seems.
The problem is that once they are used for the above, then their use will spread .. but that is another issue really.
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The other issue is that MD at least on 95 has a problem with actually posting the changed speed limit for a construction zone. You can literally be 1 or 2 miles into the damn zone before you see the first sign.
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