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Old 03-09-2009, 02:03 PM   #1
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In an age where auto-makers around the world are drastically cutting production, closing factories and focusing on greener more economical cars, one company is going against the grain. Cue the Lexus and the IS-F.

This four door 5.0l super sedan released back in 2007 was originally slated for only 500 units per year, but its success here in Japan has seen waiting lists grow and now, building off its success, Best Car reports that a face lift is in line for this ‘family sedan’. Albeit an all black carbon lighter wider one.

Carbon Four Door Sedan
Earlier last year Lexus had been busy working on a higher spec version of the IS-F with initial reports then pointing at increase in overall power up to 435ps and some carbon parts to go along with it. Unfortunately, due to the worsening economy and poor car sales this was put on hold, until now. Fast forward to 2009, post new GTR, and Lexus have stepped into high gear with 2 test mules already been completed and currently going through testing.

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Sticking to the trustworthy and reliable image, Lexus has decided to stay with the current engine setup and instead focus more on handling and weight loss with the revised version featuring an all carbon updated front bumper, rear bumper and larger rear ‘over-fenders’. Remaining panels will also be ‘carbonized’ to match the revised parts.

Continuing the carbon theme and possibly taking cues from the new Spec V GTR, the car will also be complemented with carbon ceramic brakes, again reducing weight and improving brake performance. Putting all of this to the ground new ‘special color sport design wide wheels’ wrapped in 245/35/19 front and 275/30/19 rear tires will come as standard issue. Body colors will vary, but there is a high possibility that the car will come in an all carbon version for all carbon lovers out there.

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Sources also point to a re-hash of the interior with front seats getting the carbon leather Recaro bucket treatment and leather being clad onto the buckets in the rear. An all carbon console will also be employed to reduce weight. Total weight savings from these changes are said to add up to around a 140kg weight saving all round. Whilst this may all sound like the ultimate family ride to church on Sunday morning, it will all be coming at a cost.

Initial estimates hovered around the US$100,000 mark, but final estimates for the car will be climbing past the Spec V’s US$170,000 territory and chances of getting change from a cool US$200,000 are slim. As with the current IS-F though, production numbers will be limited to only 500 per year, so maybe its time to start saving and lining up.

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Old 03-09-2009, 02:08 PM   #2
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Seriously, why bother?
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Old 03-09-2009, 02:11 PM   #3
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Sounds neat. Also sounds like a car I will never be able to afford.
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Old 03-09-2009, 02:19 PM   #4
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why bother..i bet it's cool but why? they are taking the GM school of selling cars the wrong way ( basicaly the same way as GM and look where they're at )

i can see a simple fenderbender being expensive as hell from soccer moms texting on thier cell phones.
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Old 03-09-2009, 02:24 PM   #5
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why bother..i bet it's cool but why? they are taking the GM school of selling cars the wrong way ( basicaly the same way as GM and look where they're at )

i can see a simple fenderbender being expensive as hell from soccer moms texting on thier cell phones.

Care to explain? How is this the GM approach. I always thought the GM approach was to turn a blind eye to build quality and robustness of design. Then when your customers complain, turn a blind eye to their complaints and suggestions.

Some how I don't see this in Lexus at all. They build an extremely quality car. They constantly innovate and update their platforms until they are the best in their class. They have the cash and sales to justify this type of project. I'm not seeing GM at all...
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Old 03-09-2009, 02:29 PM   #6
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Sounds awesome to me. The pricing estimate I rather doubt. There's not enough being done there to warrant a $150-200K price tag, and I doubt even Lexus would try to actually charge that. This appears to be from Best Car though who are not always known for the most reliable information, and it's a Japanese article translated to English. So those prices are what they might charge in Japan, not here, converted to USD.

Also, I think the production numbers are the numbers of JDM models only. I say that because I've seen a hell of a lot of them on the road (5-10 at least, versus like 2 Audi R8's and zero GT-R's thus far) for the number to be that low.

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Old 03-09-2009, 05:20 PM   #7
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So its the IS-F "Evo" rather than the LF-A or whatever the $200k Lexus V10/12 supercar was gonna be.

I feel like a more compelling spec would have been to do a hybrid model with electric running the fwd & the V8 running the rwd. The platform is AWD compatible. But hey, put carbon lipstick on a pig and the public will buy it I guess.
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Old 03-09-2009, 06:29 PM   #8
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So its the IS-F "Evo" rather than the LF-A or whatever the $200k Lexus V10/12 supercar was gonna be.

I feel like a more compelling spec would have been to do a hybrid model with electric running the fwd & the V8 running the rwd. The platform is AWD compatible. But hey, put carbon lipstick on a pig and the public will buy it I guess.
Um, but why would they add so much weight to the thing (hybrid + AWD?) as to make it slower than it already is? Rather than significantly bumping power/weight ratio, while adding lighter and wider wheels/tires, lighter and higher-performance carbon-ceramic brakes, and carbon body pieces/seats/interior (and presumably revised suspension)? wat?

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Old 03-09-2009, 09:30 PM   #9
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Six figures is too expensive for what you're getting, in my humble opinion.

I saw the picture at the top and thought, "Is that an FMIC!?" Alas, no
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Old 03-10-2009, 02:21 AM   #10
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I highly doubt the car will show up wearing the price tag they are projecting, if it does show.

I think this car is more like a version of the ISF that will compete with the M3 CSL when that comes out..

What I am unsure of however is how much the CSL was selling for when out..
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Old 03-10-2009, 06:25 AM   #11
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I highly doubt the car will show up wearing the price tag they are projecting, if it does show.

I think this car is more like a version of the ISF that will compete with the M3 CSL when that comes out..

What I am unsure of however is how much the CSL was selling for when out..
About 50% more than the regular M3.
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Old 03-10-2009, 11:09 AM   #12
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So its the IS-F "Evo" rather than the LF-A or whatever the $200k Lexus V10/12 supercar was gonna be.

I feel like a more compelling spec would have been to do a hybrid model with electric running the fwd & the V8 running the rwd. The platform is AWD compatible. But hey, put carbon lipstick on a pig and the public will buy it I guess.

because japan doesn't see much snow?
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Old 03-10-2009, 04:36 PM   #13
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because japan doesn't see much snow?
Hmm, interesting. I guess there isn't a market for japanese awd tuner cars in Japan or anywhere else.
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Old 03-10-2009, 05:31 PM   #14
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for 200k it should have the LFA V10. Thats ridiculous.
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Old 03-10-2009, 08:11 PM   #15
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It will not cost 200K. There is no way Lexus is that stupid to tart up a 50K car with 150K worth of stuff and try to pass it off on it's customers. This is just some magazine speculation crap.
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Hmm, interesting. I guess there isn't a market for japanese awd tuner cars in Japan or anywhere else.
actually there really isnt much of a market which is why there are what 2 cars you can think of off the top of your head within a normal persons price range. BTW you will see more FWD subarus here then anything. then there is GTR who's RWD variant (GTS-T ect) trumps it in sales by a margain so huge it's pointless to even bring up.


this car will not be sold outside of japan
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Old 04-21-2009, 03:14 AM   #17
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Participants from a recent Lexus IS-F event confirmed that the harder, lightweight IS-F Evolution will make its debut in the summer of 2010 with prices starting around $250,000.
Sources say that the IS-F has gone through a serious weight-reduction program with extensive use of carbon-fiber. Total weight has been reduced by 308 pounds for a total of 3,410 pounds. The Lexus IS-F Evolution will also feature a 417-hp V8, carbon brakes, carbon interior and an upgraded aggressive front and rear.

The Lexus IS-F Evolution will see a limited production of just 500 units most of which will be sold in Japan. No word on how many units will be allocated for the international markets.
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Old 04-21-2009, 03:43 AM   #18
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Unless they do a 3-for-1 deal, that's just way too much money. You could buy a GT3 and an S63 AMG for less.
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Unless they do a 3-for-1 deal, that's just way too much money. You could buy a GT3 and an S63 AMG for less.
+12345 That's Ferrari/Lamborghini money....
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Old 04-21-2009, 02:17 PM   #20
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Ill stick with the one i have and add the carbon fiber myself.
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Old 04-21-2009, 04:40 PM   #21
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Wow that is way too much.
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Old 04-21-2009, 05:56 PM   #22
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All this means is that they want to run it in JGTCC and not sell actual production ones. It's been done before where they sell a car that seems basically upgraded for a ridiculous amount. It's just to meet homologation rules.
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Well homologate onward?

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So its the IS-F "Evo" rather than the LF-A or whatever the $200k Lexus V10/12 supercar was gonna be.

I feel like a more compelling spec would have been to do a hybrid model with electric running the fwd & the V8 running the rwd. The platform is AWD compatible. But hey, put carbon lipstick on a pig and the public will buy it I guess.
EXACTLY.

Didn't they ditch the full carbon monocoque LF-A because it wouldn't sell at $200k???

Someone is confusing this car with the supercar.
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it like how many V8 E36 M3's were made?
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