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Old 04-23-2009, 01:50 PM   #1
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More news on the Four-Ringed front. We've confirmed that Audi will begin offering the turbocharged 2.0-liter four-cylinder on the A5 beginning this summer, and unlike the A3, A4 and TT, the 3.2-liter V6 will soldier on as an option, albeit only when spec'd with Quattro and a Tiptronic gearbox – the manual transmission pairing goes away. In any case, the four-pot will send 211 hp and 258 lb-ft of torque through either a six-speed manual or Tiptronic gearbox, allowing the coupe to scoot to 60 mph in around seven seconds. However, like the current A4, it doesn't appear Audi will offer the 2.0-liter-equipped A5 with its dual-clutch gearbox.

Other changes for the 2010 model year include LED tail-lamps, the company's third-generation MMI infotainment system and the addition of a "19-inch Sport Package" that takes the good bits from the S Line Package – 19-inch, five-spoke wheels with summer rubber, paddle shifters, front sport seats with lumbar control and the sports suspension – and ditches all the unnecessary trim. Audi Drive Select and Adaptive Cruise Control will continue to be available, and we've heard rumblings that the S5's trick rear differential could make it in as an option, but we're sending that one to the rumormill until we hear something official from Audi.
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Old 04-23-2009, 02:43 PM   #2
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YES. I might buy this.
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Old 04-23-2009, 03:42 PM   #3
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^ At least wait until the price is released.
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With the V6 (and manual) this thing weighs 3737lbs. So we're looking at a 3600lb AWD car with a turbocharged 2.0L engine and a tiny turbo. Yeah, 0-60 in 7 sounds about right.

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Old 04-23-2009, 03:45 PM   #5
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^ At least wait until the price is released.
The current V6 A5 starts at 40k, so I'm hoping you could get this one reasonably equipped for low 40s.
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Old 04-23-2009, 03:54 PM   #6
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40k, its a lot, but just look at it! oh man its mouthwateringly beautiful.
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Old 04-23-2009, 04:20 PM   #7
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With the V6 (and manual) this thing weighs 3737lbs. So we're looking at a 3600lb AWD car with a turbocharged 2.0L engine and a tiny turbo. Yeah, 0-60 in 7 sounds about right.

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Yeah, it's not very fast, but it's not like everyone who buys this car (or any) is expecting to go 0-60 in 5 seconds or less. The 2.0T will more than satisfy a lot of A5 drivers, especially with a few more ponies but a lot more torque.
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Yeah, it's not very fast, but it's not like everyone who buys this car (or any) is expecting to go 0-60 in 5 seconds or less. The 2.0T will more than satisfy a lot of A5 drivers, especially with a few more ponies but a lot more torque.
My 2.5RS did 0-60 in about 7 seconds and it was plenty fun. You don't need a ton of power to enjoy a car. But there is no doubt this will be more of a cruiser.
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With the V6 (and manual) this thing weighs 3737lbs. So we're looking at a 3600lb AWD car with a turbocharged 2.0L engine and a tiny turbo. Yeah, 0-60 in 7 sounds about right.
You'd be surprised, the new 2.0T's are pretty quick. C&D has the A4 2.0T doing 0-60 in 5.7 sec, 14.4 sec 1/4 mile. The A5 with the same engine should be about 65 lb lighter.

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...cs+page-3.html
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Old 04-23-2009, 06:59 PM   #10
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You'd be surprised, the new 2.0T's are pretty quick. C&D has the A4 2.0T doing 0-60 in 5.7 sec, 14.4 sec 1/4 mile. The A5 with the same engine should be about 65 lb lighter.

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...cs+page-3.html
It came out in 2008 in the UK, albeit with the a slightly detuned 2.0T. 0-62 in 6.5sec.

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It’s a genuinely likeable car, the A5, quite possibly the most impressive car Audi builds short of the R8. And it works particularly well with this four-cylinder engine, which is smooth, refined, delivers decent economy and certainly feels quick.
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Old 04-23-2009, 07:27 PM   #11
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It's the same engine, but that's just the manufacturer claim, and it's for 0-62, which is typically 10% slower.
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Old 04-23-2009, 07:33 PM   #12
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It's the same engine, but that's just the manufacturer claim, and it's for 0-62, which is typically 10% slower.
I don't think so, it's 208hp vs 211hp for 2009. All the other sites I saw for the 2008 quoted the manufacturer spec as 6.9s 0-62, so I think that's actual test data.
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I don't think so, it's 208hp vs 211hp for 2009. All the other sites I saw for the 2008 quoted the manufacturer spec as 6.9s 0-62, so I think that's actual test data.
No, 208 vs. 211 is just the difference between PS and bhp. That's definitely the '09 engine. Either way we're talking about 0-62, which is always a good bit slower than 0-60.
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Old 04-23-2009, 08:24 PM   #14
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No, 208 vs. 211 is just the difference between PS and bhp. That's definitely the '09 engine. Either way we're talking about 0-62, which is always a good bit slower than 0-60.
3hp and 2mph are completely irrelevant in the world which I live.

It is a very beautiful car. I wish you could buy and Audi styled car with Toyota reliability...
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that thing is gorgeous actually
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Old 04-23-2009, 09:36 PM   #16
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It is a very beautiful car. I wish you could buy and Audi styled car with Toyota reliability...
That's what she said... or I said. Anyway, I love the 2.0T and the A5 is one of the sexiest touring coupes out there.
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No A4 or A5 for me unless they bring the turbo diesel to the US.

IF they bring the 3.2 TDI here, my WRX will be for sale.
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Old 04-24-2009, 02:47 AM   #18
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a5 looks so good. a4 but a coupe lol and i saw an s5 few months back that thing was gorgeous.
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Couldn't you just tune this a bit better like you would a WRX and get 250hp or so?

Drove an A5 last year and the 3.2 felt quick, not fast but it was enjoyable.
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Couldn't you just tune this a bit better like you would a WRX and get 250hp or so?
Yes, APR makes some computer upgrades. Their ECU1 gets up to 250hp/280lb out of the 2.0T.
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Yeah, it's not very fast, but it's not like everyone who buys this car (or any) is expecting to go 0-60 in 5 seconds or less. The 2.0T will more than satisfy a lot of A5 drivers, especially with a few more ponies but a lot more torque.
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My 2.5RS did 0-60 in about 7 seconds and it was plenty fun. You don't need a ton of power to enjoy a car. But there is no doubt this will be more of a cruiser.
No doubt. I'm not saying it won't be more than adequate for most drivers (myself included). I'm more referencing the phenomenon with the 2.0T Genesis Coupe. Similar specs.. but all people talked about when it hit the news was how awesome the 2.0T was going to be over the V6. Then it came out and everyone who said they wanted a 2.0T was suddenly disappointed in the acceleration times.. even though they're more than adequate. It just seems that the people on NASIOC see 2.0 Turbo and think it's going to be the '02 WRX all over again.

You know.. the folks who begin magazine racing in the vehicle's favor as soon as the specs are released...

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You'd be surprised, the new 2.0T's are pretty quick. C&D has the A4 2.0T doing 0-60 in 5.7 sec, 14.4 sec 1/4 mile. The A5 with the same engine should be about 65 lb lighter.

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...cs+page-3.html

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Old 04-24-2009, 11:40 AM   #23
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No, 208 vs. 211 is just the difference between PS and bhp. That's definitely the '09 engine. Either way we're talking about 0-62, which is always a good bit slower than 0-60.
Fair enough. Either way I expect it to be a solid mid 6s 0-60 car. Which is fine by me.
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Old 04-24-2009, 11:52 AM   #24
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Couldn't you just tune this a bit better like you would a WRX and get 250hp or so?
But that number wasn't hit with the 2.0-liter. Sure, you could probably get this VW/Audi unit to hit that number but consider that it would lose some of its low-end tractability.
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