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Old 04-26-2009, 02:33 PM   #1
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Default Who's running 245's on their WRX?

I just got some mounted up and they are massive. I'm wondering how you guys keep them from rubbing on the rear fenders? There's almost a 1/2" between the tire and shock, so plenty of room there.

I've only got 1.1* camber right now, so i think that will be the first step, will 1.4 be enough? I don't want to put in much more than that b/c my tire temps are very close!

The other alternative is to use a pillowball mount or group N top hat that's not camber adjustable and then use lateral links at the bottom to help pull in the wheel.

Depending on cost, I may also be able to trade for some higher offset wheels( currently 45mm on my 17x8 kosei's), but they need to be 17lbs or lighter(15.5 currently)

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Old 04-26-2009, 03:37 PM   #2
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You roll your fender lips yet? How much clearance to you have between the tire and strut?
Are you going coilovers?
One thing I used to do on my GC to get a 245 Hoosiers to fix was a customized camber plate up top Maxed out. Then camber bolts to bring the camber back out to where I needed it. It gave me more clearance on the strut and I had my fenders rolled.
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Old 04-26-2009, 04:28 PM   #3
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The 245 will provide more grip. More grip means more roll. More roll means you can stand to use a little more rear camber. -1.4 should be enough, but you may find you need even more to keep a good balance.

Patrick L's advice above is also spot on.

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Old 04-26-2009, 04:46 PM   #4
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I ran 245 A6s for two years and it was a great setup. I had -3.5 in the front and -1 in the rear and it was a great setup. I never had rubbing issues anywhere nor did i have to roll fender lips, etc.

If you think 245s are massive, I just sold my 285/18s... those are massive lol
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Old 04-26-2009, 06:43 PM   #5
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I'm running 245 RE01Rs on a 45 offset on my WRX with rolled rear fenders. No problems thus far. ROLL ZE FENDERS!
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Old 04-26-2009, 06:59 PM   #6
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I am running 245/40/17 on RPF1s - 45 offset WITHOUT rolled fenders. No rubbing unless there are people in the back and I am cornering heavy

2006 WRX
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Old 04-26-2009, 07:31 PM   #7
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So even with 1.7* you still rub sometimes? Its a very competitve STX autocross setup so i'm planning on pulling some mad G's on my new RE-11's.

I'd really like to get by without rolling the fenders if i can. I'd go with lateral links or camber bolts or widening the holes in my coilovers.


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I am running 245/40/17 on RPF1s - 45 offset WITHOUT rolled fenders. No rubbing unless there are people in the back and I am cornering heavy

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Old 04-26-2009, 07:47 PM   #8
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Old 04-26-2009, 08:13 PM   #9
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I only rub on the fender when I have two big guys in the back seat AND I am cornering hard. I really have to try hard to make it happen. I haven't pulled out the rubber lip that runs around the inner lip. Oh, I am also on 17x8s. Anything wider would probably rub.

edit: yes I do autocross (too much). I am using camber bolts in the rear for the camber.
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Old 04-26-2009, 08:15 PM   #10
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This was my setup:



No rubbing at all.
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Old 04-26-2009, 08:23 PM   #11
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i ran 245 40 17 NT01's with minor rub at full lock.
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Old 04-26-2009, 09:46 PM   #12
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I am running 245/40/17 on RPF1s - 45 offset WITHOUT rolled fenders. No rubbing unless there are people in the back and I am cornering heavy
Same here:
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I haven't pulled out the rubber lip that runs around the inner lip.
After spinning through the finish at Hershey I noticed that my rubber fender lip thingie was messed up on the driver's side (it was long gone on the passenger side) so I pulled it off. That was the first event on the 245 Dunlops so I'm guessing it was related.
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Old 04-26-2009, 09:53 PM   #13
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Old 04-26-2009, 10:37 PM   #14
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I ran 245/40R17s on my DS WRX on 17x7" Kazera KZ-Vs (and KZ-Ss), which have an offset of 50. I had no rubbing issues at all, and did not use a spacer. I would have to check my alignment sheet for exact specs, but I think it was about 1.8* negative camber in the rear and 1.2-1.3ish up front, just a hair of toe out all around.

I'll be bumping the size up to 295s on 17x9.5" rims with the ESP build.

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Old 04-27-2009, 09:55 AM   #15
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Old 04-27-2009, 10:01 AM   #16
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I ran 245 bridgestones and dunlops on mine. Never rubbed and that was with the rear lateral pushed out a .5" and 20mm spacers on the front.

The rears were rolled. I don't think it would've hit though.

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Sorry + 45 enkei rpf 1's
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Old 04-27-2009, 10:45 AM   #17
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I ran 245/40/17 Hoosiers on my former '06 WRX that I ran in D-stock. I used stock offset wheels and had no rubbing issues when my alignment was -1.5 Front, -1.2 Rear. I ran the whiteline 27/29mm adj FSB on the car.

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Old 04-29-2009, 01:16 PM   #18
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I ran 245/40/17 Hoosier A6s on my 02 sedan with no rubbing problems on my old suspension set up: AGXs and prodrive springs, cobb sway bars, ~1.5* camber. I just upgraded to BC inverted coilovers, so I may have to roll the fenders now.....don't know yet because I need to get aligned. I may just get them rolled to be safe.
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Old 04-29-2009, 05:45 PM   #19
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245/40 re760's 1.5* front camber 0.5* rear. Bcracing coilovers.

rear fenders are rolled.

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I ran the 245 Hoosier A6 on 17x8's and never had any rubbing problems in back on my 06 WRX TR. Stock ride height.
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245/40/17 Direzza Z1 on 17x8" +48 Only rubbed at full lock full load.. Worked just fine! Didn't roll fenders either.
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Old 05-08-2009, 12:17 PM   #22
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Alright, thanks for all the replies! Here's the update:

Race tires-RE-11 245/40/17
Mounted on-17x8 45mm offset kosei K1TS
Current alignment 1.5* camber in the rear.




(picture is with my street tires, but rubbing is from the new race tires)

They're officially rubbing, this was race configuration with about 2 hard turns in each direction, got the exact same rubbing on each side.

Tire to shock clerance:




Comaprison of what i was running to what's on now:




-I'm going to take a couple measurements and see
what 1.7-1.9 camber will do for me and possibly try that.

-I'll look into some 48+offset wheels, that will help a tiny bit.

-I don't want to roll the fenders if at all possible, anything im' missing?
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Old 05-08-2009, 12:24 PM   #23
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Either:
Moar camber
Moar height
Moar offset

Or just roll the fender, it's cheaper than new wheels
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Old 05-08-2009, 01:06 PM   #24
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You gain quite a bit just removing those rubber linings on the fender. If your not rubbing much that might be all you need.
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Old 05-08-2009, 02:32 PM   #25
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You gain quite a bit just removing those rubber linings on the fender. If your not rubbing much that might be all you need.
That's a good idea...i could even remove them for autox and leave them on for street.

With 1.7* camber and removing the liner, i bet i won't have any rub.
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