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Old 04-26-2009, 10:39 PM   #1
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Default Evap/emissions still covered by warranty?

yeah so i got my codes read, and this is what they all are.

BBEVAP system leak detected- small leak
Probbable cause
BB1.- faulty canister vent solenoid
BB2.- faulty canister purge solenoid
BB3.- faulty fuel cap
BB4.- evap system hose malfunction

so with that being said, usually warranty covers evap/emissions stuff longer than the normal one. is it the same with this? if so they should get this solved right??

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Old 04-27-2009, 12:13 AM   #2
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Most emission stuff is only covered for 3/36 unless you live in a "California Emission" state.

The only things that are covered for 8 years or 80K miles is the Cats, ECU and OBDII diagnostic plug.
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Old 04-27-2009, 12:59 AM   #3
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ah k, well then. what is the most common problem with the evap stuff?
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Old 04-27-2009, 09:26 PM   #4
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You need to get the code properly pulled...those codes may not be the same when pulled with the correct computer. THose codes that were pulled are very broad and each have their own code, so it looks like multiple codes were pulled (or their scanner didn't know your specific vehicle.)

Most evap small leaks are the gas cap..either not put on tight or not sealing properly.

My suggestion...check the gas cap, and tighten it. Disconnect the battery for a few minutes to reset the check engine light. Drive the car for a while and see if the light comes back. If it does, get the code(s) pulled with the correct scanner.

That is, if the car seems to be running okay...if not, dont reset them and get them properly checked
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Old 04-28-2009, 12:19 AM   #5
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i can almost gaurantee this code is P0442.

do a search for that number, and you will find many a post with information, and many a thread where i contributed when i had this problem

do not take this problem to a dealer. take this to a real shop and get them to do a smoke test.

what mods have you done before this came up?
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Old 04-28-2009, 12:42 AM   #6
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just has a catback, and a aem intake. this came on about 2 hours after i got my car emissions checked about a month ago. talk about irony.
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well 1) you want to get a proper code pulled ASAP. There are like 3 or 4 types of emissions leak codes, so its important to know which one.

2) There are a bunch of factors that could have prevented the code from being tripped earlier, even if the leak was still there.

3) The sure fire way to diagnose it is to get a smoke test done. But you can't do this at a dealership because dealerships are retarded and full of ****. I had a pinhole leak in one of my hoses, and two different dealers tried to tell me I needed an entirely new canister (~$450) because they just pulled the code and called it a day. Go to a quality subaru shop, their labor is cheaper and their knowledge is better.

not sure what illinois, MG is, but if you are close to chicago, you have a ton of options.
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Old 04-28-2009, 01:43 PM   #8
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well 1) you want to get a proper code pulled ASAP. There are like 3 or 4 types of emissions leak codes, so its important to know which one.

2) There are a bunch of factors that could have prevented the code from being tripped earlier, even if the leak was still there.

3) The sure fire way to diagnose it is to get a smoke test done. But you can't do this at a dealership because dealerships are retarded and full of ****. I had a pinhole leak in one of my hoses, and two different dealers tried to tell me I needed an entirely new canister (~$450) because they just pulled the code and called it a day. Go to a quality subaru shop, their labor is cheaper and their knowledge is better.

not sure what illinois, MG is, but if you are close to chicago, you have a ton of options.

My, my, are we bitter about something? I say that because I know of several dealership shops that regularly use smoke machines to find evap leaks. FWIW, a smoke machine is not the answer to every evap code, as some of them can be set by faulty solenoids that don't close properly and will NOT show an external leak. Those types of failures need to be diagnosed using a special Subaru evap pressure testing tool, usually found at one of those retarded full of **** dealers you seem to dislike so much.
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Old 04-28-2009, 02:18 PM   #9
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My, my, are we bitter about something? I say that because I know of several dealership shops that regularly use smoke machines to find evap leaks. FWIW, a smoke machine is not the answer to every evap code, as some of them can be set by faulty solenoids that don't close properly and will NOT show an external leak. Those types of failures need to be diagnosed using a special Subaru evap pressure testing tool, usually found at one of those retarded full of **** dealers you seem to dislike so much.
why yes, i am bitter . what you said is correct, but i dont think a faulty solenoid can cause the small evap leak code. i'll have to check my records on this because i forgot the area of the pinhole that causes it.

and those retard ****ty dealers arent the only ones that possess those tools. But they are the only retards that will tell you they ran a smoke test without actually running a smoke test I know that there are some good dealers out there that DONT try to just F people over, but none of those exist near me, and I am lucky enough to live in the same area as DPS, AndrewTech, IAG, Agile, Element, and Racecomp, so there's no need to go to a dealer for anything.
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