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Old 05-06-2009, 04:11 AM   #1
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General Motors stands to lose 25 percent of its hybrid vehicles with the closing of Saturn, but the Detroit automaker doesn’t expect the demise of Saturn to disrupt the company’s next-generation of hybrid vehicle technology.

GM will wind down or sell the Saturn brand by the end of this year, but Saturn’s hybrid technology will live on in at least one of GM’s four core brands – Chevrolet, Buick, GMC or Cadillac. Most notably, the underlying technology of the now-dead 2011 Saturn Vue Plug-in Hybrid is destined for one of the aforementioned brands.
“The technology does not go away. We are going to plug it in,” Tom Stephens, GM’s vice chairman of global product development, told Automotive News.
However, Stephens stopped short of naming which GM vehicle was earmarked for the Vue’s plug-in drivetrain. The Vue shares many of its components with the upcoming Chevrolet Equinox, GMC Terrain and Cadillac SRX, so any of those vehicles would seem like a safe bet.
The Vue’s plug-in technology should surface in 2011 for use in fleets, with a retail version like to bow soon after
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Old 05-06-2009, 08:08 AM   #2
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Saturn doesn't have technology. Saturn shares technology with other GM products. Geesh.
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Old 05-06-2009, 12:25 PM   #3
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When the Vue first came out it was a Toyota drivetrain, licensed by GM. Is that still the case (it was a whiie ago) or does GM/Saturn actually have its own tech for the Vue now?
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When the Vue first came out it was a Toyota drivetrain, licensed by GM. Is that still the case (it was a whiie ago) or does GM/Saturn actually have its own tech for the Vue now?
GM never licensed Toyota's hybrid technology. Ford shared some patents with Toyota, but even then, they developed their own technology but it was similar enough to Toyota's sytem that they had to license a few patents. I believe they traded Toyota some diesel and DI patent licenses in exchange.
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The Vue is a 2 mode system and is not like the toyota's. Same tech as teh Tahoe and Silverado.
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OK thanks for the clarification. I guess they licensed patents on technology rather than the technology (hmm, not sure the difference there). After some googling it looks like the Vue's engine+transmission were at some point from Honda, not Toyota. I swore I popped the hood on a Vue when it first came out and "Toyota" was stamped on the engine block (very prominently) but it must've been another Saturn. Of course now I just sound like a crazy guy.
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I think the only GM that may have a toyota engine in it is the Pontiac Vibe which is the same as the Toyota Matrix. They are built in the Joint Venture Plant in Cali. The Vue no longer uses the Honda Motor. I am not sure if the Honda motor was even used in the hybrid model.
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I think the only GM that may have a toyota engine in it is the Pontiac Vibe which is the same as the Toyota Matrix. They are built in the Joint Venture Plant in Cali. The Vue no longer uses the Honda Motor. I am not sure if the Honda motor was even used in the hybrid model.

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When the Vue first came out it was a Toyota drivetrain, licensed by GM. Is that still the case (it was a whiie ago) or does GM/Saturn actually have its own tech for the Vue now?
You are confused. The first Vue had a V6 from Honda (not Toyota) in it. They dropped it for a GM motor in 2008.
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I guess I find this article stupid. Would anyone really expect them to simply throw the Saturn Hybrid technology away? "Meh, no more Saturn. Throw this stuff in the garbage. No possible use for hybrid technology now."

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Had a Chevy Nova. Only reason we bought a GM car was because it was a fake Corolla.
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