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Old 06-10-2009, 05:38 PM   #126
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My current project is to try to work up a car-portable repeater. I'm going to see if I can manage to put a 2m antenna up a couple of hundred feet on a kite or balloon. I've got kites that will hoist ~100lbs up several thousand feet. The feedline is going to be the only sticking point, I think.
Interesting! That must be one badass kite. RG-58 is 0.023 lbs/foot so 23 lbs per 1000 feet. You might have a chance.

Sadly the West Chester ham club is not doing their balloon hoisted antenna for this year's field day due to the high cost of the helium.
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Old 06-10-2009, 05:44 PM   #127
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RG-58 will have horrible attenuation at VHF, though, on a long enough run. I'm afraid it's going to have to be at least LMR-400. My wallet weeps.
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Old 06-10-2009, 05:57 PM   #128
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RG-58 will have horrible attenuation at VHF, though, on a long enough run. I'm afraid it's going to have to be at least LMR-400. My wallet weeps.
Hadn't thought about that. You might want to get in touch with the guys at WCARA and ask them about their experiences hoisting feedline with a balloon. They might be able to steer you right and save you some trial and error.

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Old 06-12-2009, 04:19 AM   #129
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Got my Midland 1001Z installed today in the din pocket. I was gonna try for the ashtray area but it looked freaking impossible, plus it's much more accessible where it's at now. I just have to cover up the rest of the hole left next to it with a sheet of aluminum and then wait for my antenna and mount to get here next week before I do power. I'll post some pics up tomorrow.
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Old 06-12-2009, 04:51 AM   #130
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Can you hear it ok with the radio in the DIN pocket since the speaker is on the bottom?

Also, do you understand how to use the Squelch/RF Gain controls? That one catches a lot of people out.
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Old 06-12-2009, 10:51 AM   #131
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Yup to both, I used to do a little bit of HAM stuff and I DID RTFM so it's all pretty easy. I think I'll either be tapping into the cig lighter or go straight to the battery.
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Old 06-12-2009, 09:11 PM   #132
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Yup to both, I used to do a little bit of HAM stuff and I DID RTFM so it's all pretty easy. I think I'll either be tapping into the cig lighter or go straight to the battery.
Straight to battery...never use the 12v power ports. They used under-sized wire for the current needed and are sources of ignition noise, etc.
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Old 06-12-2009, 09:12 PM   #133
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RG-58 will have horrible attenuation at VHF, though, on a long enough run. I'm afraid it's going to have to be at least LMR-400. My wallet weeps.
How many feet? Do you have a TESSCO account?

I realize you are looking to loft a VHF antenna up for a repeater, but while we are on the repeater topic...I use a vehicular repeater on the Motorola VHF radio in the car which is a low power (400mW) UHF radio that repeats the VHF traffic on UHF and allows me to talk in on UHF with a portable. It's a neat arrangement, similar to a cross-banding dual band hammy transceiver but with priority checking so I can TX out even if the radio is RX'ing something.
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Old 06-12-2009, 10:46 PM   #134
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No Tessco account. I'd need 200+ ft if I ran it straight up, or probably 500+ ft if I used the feedline as the "kite string".
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Old 06-12-2009, 11:03 PM   #135
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No Tessco account. I'd need 200+ ft if I ran it straight up, or probably 500+ ft if I used the feedline as the "kite string".
Yeah, that would be some $$$....somewhere around $300 for the 500' roll at my cost. That and I think LMR400 would be a little stiff
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Old 06-13-2009, 12:14 AM   #136
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Dude, the kite pulls more than hard enough to straighten out LMR-400

I actually can get all the LMR-400 I want free. The problem is that it's 50' terminated with commercial-grade N connectors. Coupling them all together would add some SERIOUS weight.
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Old 06-13-2009, 03:11 PM   #137
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Interior, made the vertical mount myself:

VHF Kenwood
VHF Motorola
Cobra WX75ST CB, handheld control head...mentioned elsewhere in this thread.

The VHF radios have NMO antennas on the roof, CB antenna is a glass-mount as I use it for monitoring only. If I was using the CB to talk, I'd have a better antenna.

To the OP: Use a decent CB antenna, or it will not be worth your time to even install it. I prefer to use the Larsen NMO27B antenna, as it can be mounted to most anything easily and it's all black with a skinny .100" whip. You can use any NMO mount...whether permanent, lip mount or magnetic mount...for it and it works very well. I'd stay away from mag mount antennas, as they will scratch the paint and generally don't work too well. The antenna mount needs to be grounded to the chassis in order to work correctly.

Chicken and ROFL's to the guy who said no ground will cause the radio to fry. It will work like **** but the radio won't "fry". I guess all the no-ground plane antennas that are used in the industry must cause a whole lotta damage.



I'm sure this sounds like greek to most of you, so ask questions if you have them. Besides my day job, I do communications and warning equipment installation for some select entities.
I need you no joke!!!

I want to turn my suby into a police car for a project. Strictly chase car. I know nothing about hooking up lights, radios, etc etc.

I'm gonna PM you. If you see this, my email is fhugg02 @ bellsouth . net

I'd appreciate an email. I can give you my ideas... Thanks!!!!
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Old 06-13-2009, 05:10 PM   #138
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Project? What kind of project? Be specific, before I pull out the term "whacker".

Post it here or a PM, whichever.
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Old 06-13-2009, 06:35 PM   #139
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Project? What kind of project? Be specific, before I pull out the term "whacker".

Post it here or a PM, whichever.
I'm no whacker.

I was/am enrolled in criminal justice. I saw this guy http://www.projectresponder.com
and wanted to do something similar.

Heck, if it got good enough, and an agency liked it, I'd like to sell it.

Basically I want to take the idea of a cop car, and make it more comfortable, ergonomic, but still have the quickness, and handling capabilities better than a crown vic and a charger.

Someone beat me to it already sorta though. I can't remember the name of the car. You may know what it is. It looked kinda like a charger, but wasn't, and was specifically a cop car. Not a family car retro fitted to be a cop car.
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Old 06-13-2009, 06:40 PM   #140
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Hey guys, based on reading this thread me and my friend bought the cheap Midland that williaty recommended, but now we are looking for antenna's and dont really know what to do, I saw Noah's K30 and it looked good, but im wondering if there is anything similar that might be abit cheaper? I dont have the balls to drill a hole in my trunk for an antenna hahahah. You just smash the cable in the trunk Noah?
thanks for the help
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Old 06-14-2009, 01:37 PM   #141
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Anyone have in SNJ in here? I have a Uniden 510 and a K30 that desprately needs to be tuned
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Old 06-15-2009, 12:13 AM   #142
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I'm no whacker.

I was/am enrolled in criminal justice. I saw this guy http://www.projectresponder.com
and wanted to do something similar.

Heck, if it got good enough, and an agency liked it, I'd like to sell it.

Basically I want to take the idea of a cop car, and make it more comfortable, ergonomic, but still have the quickness, and handling capabilities better than a crown vic and a charger.

Someone beat me to it already sorta though. I can't remember the name of the car. You may know what it is. It looked kinda like a charger, but wasn't, and was specifically a cop car. Not a family car retro fitted to be a cop car.
I'm going to make this as politically correct as possible:



1.) This idea of yours? It's bad. Next time you have a thought, let it go.
2.) No department will buy a used Subaru with lights in it from you
3.) The ProjectResponder guy is a whacker, actually King of the Whackers to be specific. I met him once, and he is over the top. His truck and his "cause" are a manifestation of his little man-parts. That truck is an abomination and looks ridiculous.
4.) If you just want a car with lights and a siren, that's a bad reason to do it. It reeks of whackerness.
5.) A Subaru used as a patrol vehicle, in place of a CVPI or Charger? See #1

Sorry guy, but I see no good coming out of that plan of yours and as such I want nothing to do with it. Seriously, let it go. Really. I'm not kidding. My day job? A large public safety agency. My other very part-time job? Equipment installation/consultation and my customers are the official kind, local government agencies of various types. It wouldn't look good for me to be giving advice to a guy on the interwebs on how to whack-out his personal car.

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Old 06-15-2009, 04:35 PM   #143
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I had a long reply written, but I'm not going to get into this. So, ok...

And I'm still not a whacker!!!

And for the record, my dad was Troop G communicator supervisor for the North Carolina Highway Patrol. For 20 years. Giving him a total 41 years in NCSHP.

Again, sorry if I freaked you or anyone else out. I don't plan on doing stupid stuff with the car, if it happens.

ETA: Thanks for telling me project responder dude is whack. I've never talked to him or seen his truck in person.

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Old 06-15-2009, 08:03 PM   #144
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Anyone have in SNJ in here? I have a Uniden 510 and a K30 that desprately needs to be tuned
You just need the antenna tuned, right?
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Old 06-16-2009, 01:40 PM   #145
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Just bought a used IC-2720(true dual 2m/440) from HRO. Comes with box, manual, mounting bracket, seperation cable, and DC cables, along with a Comet SBB7 with a mag mount and coax for 225 bucks shipped.

Not a bad deal, although I'm not going to put the SBB7 on my car-its 55 inches tall.
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Old 06-17-2009, 01:47 AM   #146
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My antenna and mount will be here Monday.
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Old 06-19-2009, 04:14 PM   #147
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Old 06-19-2009, 04:46 PM   #148
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Lets see some pics of that exterior!
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Old 06-19-2009, 04:54 PM   #149
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That's quite the shift extender you have there.

+1 on exterior shots.
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