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Old 05-13-2009, 10:20 PM   #1
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Default Making power on Cali 91!

This thing did great for straight Cali 91 Octane.

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FP Red 7cm
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EQ Tuning Custom Tune using Cobb AP V2

88F Ambient Temps, 20psi peak by 3600RPM



*** Standard Dyno Chart Disclaimer ***

This software reads low and should be compared to the lower reading mustang dynos. Here are some proven numbers and trap speeds for reference:

Stock WRX - 155-165whp
Stock STI - 215-225whp

265-275whp - 107-108mph traps
300-310whp - 112-113mph traps
325-335whp - 115-116mph traps
380-390whp - 120-121mph traps

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Old 05-13-2009, 10:38 PM   #2
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great numbers on 91!!
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Old 05-13-2009, 10:59 PM   #3
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That's awesome spool for a Red
Is it because it's a 7cm or it's EWG? or Both?
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Old 05-13-2009, 11:54 PM   #4
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Wow...that looks great! Any reason you didn't take it any higher? Even with stock heads/cams, it'd probably hold boost/power really well.
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Old 05-14-2009, 02:53 PM   #5
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those are great numbers for pump gas!
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Old 05-14-2009, 03:03 PM   #6
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That's awesome spool for a Red
Is it because it's a 7cm or it's EWG? or Both?
This has to be the best spool from a Red I've ever seen! Looks to be a perfect street set-up, however once you dump a little race fuel in there and up the boost that 7cm^2 turbine housing will really show it's ugly side.

Good job Ed!
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Old 05-14-2009, 03:09 PM   #7
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This thing did great for straight Cali 91 Octane.

05 STI with:

FP Red 7cm
GrimmSpeed UP with 38mm EWG
Built Shortblock (CP Pistons, ACL Bearings)
Stock Heads/Cams
APS 3.5" TBE
APS Turbo Inlet Pipe
APS Fuel Rails
Deatschwerks 850cc Injectors
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EQ Tuning Short Ram Intake
UEL Headers
Hallman MBC
EQ Tuning Custom Tune using Cobb AP V2

88F Ambient Temps, 20psi peak by 3600RPM



*** Standard Dyno Chart Disclaimer ***

This software reads low and should be compared to the lower reading mustang dynos. Here are some proven numbers and trap speeds for reference:

Stock WRX - 155-165whp
Stock STI - 215-225whp

265-275whp - 107-108mph traps
300-310whp - 112-113mph traps
325-335whp - 115-116mph traps
380-390whp - 120-121mph traps

*** End Disclaimer ***

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No way dude! Thats sick power, especially for running piss water. This car could probably go 11.4-11.5 on 91, amazing job. I wonder what 93 could have gained over 91. 15whp?? Anyways, looking forward to track numbers.

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Old 05-14-2009, 04:32 PM   #8
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should last a long time with this nice conservative tune, gosh I hate 91...

ed, this guy isn't a fan of the meth?

another nice tune by ed
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Old 05-14-2009, 04:38 PM   #9
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That's awesome spool for a Red
Is it because it's a 7cm or it's EWG? or Both?
I attribute the quick spool to the 7cm housing. The EWG certainly helps to regulate boost, but the overall spool characteristics are turbo dependent.

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Old 05-14-2009, 04:40 PM   #10
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Wow...that looks great! Any reason you didn't take it any higher? Even with stock heads/cams, it'd probably hold boost/power really well.

We could have revved it out a bit more but decided to keep it safe on the 91 tune. The motor is also barely broken in .

This car will be getting meth injection soon, as well as a race gas tune, so there was no need to push it too hard on 91. Even still, it made awesome power.

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Old 05-14-2009, 04:45 PM   #11
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This has to be the best spool from a Red I've ever seen! Looks to be a perfect street set-up, however once you dump a little race fuel in there and up the boost that 7cm^2 turbine housing will really show it's ugly side.

Good job Ed!
You'd be surprised with the 7cm housing with an EWG. The EWG takes a lot of the restriction away because it dumps the gas before it hits the small exhaust housing.

This is the same car and turbo we were pushing to 30psi and 450whp on the stock block on C16 previously. After almost a year of extreme abuse, the stock motor let go on a 115F day. Initially I gave the customer a 50/50 shot of the motor making it through the actual tune at 30psi. He didn't care and wanted to run as much boost as possible at any cost. We tuned it to 30psi, made awesome power with great response, and amazingly lasted almost a year on the weak, stock pistons . Either way, the 7cm housing isn't too much of a restriction if you run it with a good EWG. Its a great combo for all around response.

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Old 05-14-2009, 05:38 PM   #12
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nice numbers. thats a lot for 91 oct + a mustang dyno
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Old 05-14-2009, 06:51 PM   #13
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Wow that's great top end! I wish I had that to complement my midrange!
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Old 05-14-2009, 06:55 PM   #14
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You'd be surprised with the 7cm housing with an EWG. The EWG takes a lot of the restriction away because it dumps the gas before it hits the small exhaust housing.

This is the same car and turbo we were pushing to 30psi and 450whp on the stock block on C16 previously. After almost a year of extreme abuse, the stock motor let go on a 115F day. Initially I gave the customer a 50/50 shot of the motor making it through the actual tune at 30psi. He didn't care and wanted to run as much boost as possible at any cost. We tuned it to 30psi, made awesome power with great response, and amazingly lasted almost a year on the weak, stock pistons . Either way, the 7cm housing isn't too much of a restriction if you run it with a good EWG. Its a great combo for all around response.

Thanks
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That's great to know Ed. Makes me even more interested in an 8cm^2 with EWG .

And was that 450whp on your dyno software? If so that is incredible! Must have been good for some solid 10 sec passes I'd guess.
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Old 05-14-2009, 06:58 PM   #15
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That's great to know Ed. Makes me even more interested in an 8cm^2 with EWG .

And was that 450whp on your dyno software? If so that is incredible! Must have been good for some solid 10 sec passes I'd guess.
Yep that was 450whp on my software. Granted it was on a cool night, but it was still ridiculously quick. The best part was there was almost no lag. On that tune, the car would burn through 1st and 2nd, spin a bit into 3rd and I actually got it to chirp 4th!

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Damn...this is exciting.
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Yep that was 450whp on my software. Granted it was on a cool night, but it was still ridiculously quick. The best part was there was almost no lag. On that tune, the car would burn through 1st and 2nd, spin a bit into 3rd and I actually got it to chirp 4th!

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Old 05-14-2009, 07:50 PM   #18
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I used to shift my 5MT like that and never broke anything... I don't see a 6MT going out on me
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Dang, Ed. That is pretty sweet... over 300ft-lbs before 4,000 rpms is awesome, not to mention the top end. Are these the UEL Headers I saw at the shop, the ones your fabricator made?

Also, how is the FP Red turbo in terms of reliability? Just wondering because I seem to find lots of posts on the Green failing but not so much the Red...
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Old 05-14-2009, 10:46 PM   #21
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Dang, Ed. That is pretty sweet... over 300ft-lbs before 4,000 rpms is awesome, not to mention the top end. Are these the UEL Headers I saw at the shop, the ones your fabricator made?

Also, how is the FP Red turbo in terms of reliability? Just wondering because I seem to find lots of posts on the Green failing but not so much the Red...
No, these are just the standard UEL design.. I think they're Gruppe-S.

This turbo has taken plenty of abuse and still seems to be doing fine. It seems like FP has been having more issues with their more recent turbos.

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Old 05-14-2009, 10:54 PM   #23
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Nice numbers, makes me think you could achieve better power on Corona light I love the west but the gas is horrific.
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Old 05-15-2009, 11:24 PM   #24
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Nice numbers, makes me think you could achieve better power on Corona light I love the west but the gas is horrific.
No kidding! Whenever I tune on 93, I feel like I'm working with race gas. Considering, I'm amazed we can make the power we do on our 91.

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Stock compression ratio?
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