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Old 04-23-2002, 01:53 PM   #1
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Question More power on 02' 2.5rs with only $1000 to spend?

I've got $1000 to spend on my 02' 2.5rs. Does anyone have thrifty suggestions as to what I should get to increase acceleration and horse power for that amount of money? Better yet is there anyone out there that's done something similar to their 02' RS?
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Old 04-23-2002, 02:04 PM   #2
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If you're thinking forced induction... don't.

The only thing you can get for $1000 that'll increase acceleration and horsepower to the ground is shorter tires. Maybe a clutch & flywheel if you're really into it... it'll cost you more then $1k if you add in installation too, though.
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Old 04-23-2002, 02:29 PM   #3
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You should be able to get an Intake and Exhaust for that much. I would suggest looking into a Ganzflo intake.

Upgrade your tires if you havn't already. RE92's are a major limiting factor when it comes to "spirited driving."

You might also consider a suspension package instead of power options.

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Old 04-23-2002, 09:14 PM   #4
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NOS NOS NOS....

but you break it you bought it.


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Old 04-23-2002, 09:50 PM   #5
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should this stay here or head over to N/A
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Old 04-23-2002, 10:25 PM   #6
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I'd say over to N/A. I'd also look into a Brullen header-back or an intake and some cobb cams.
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Old 04-23-2002, 10:35 PM   #7
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I would do an intake or exhaust/ and cobb cams (stage 2)

This needs to be in N/A
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Old 04-24-2002, 12:43 AM   #8
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www.cobbtuning.com

they have the answers
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Old 04-24-2002, 01:34 AM   #9
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ive spent less than $1000 and have well over 200hp.

intake $160
universal muffler $100
2.25 catback piping done at local muffler shop $25
zex nitrous kit $300

lets see, less then $600, and an estimated 220-230hp (when spraying the 65 shot of course)
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Old 04-24-2002, 01:46 AM   #10
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Cobb Intake ($269)
N1 Pulleys ($250) OR proecm chip ($250)
Someones used midpipe+exhaust OR custom made magnaflow or flowmaster or generic something (2.25 or 2.5, around $200-500)

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Old 04-24-2002, 02:24 AM   #11
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how effective is the proecm chip? i was thinking of getting one myself.
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Old 04-24-2002, 11:27 AM   #12
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kostamojen, has it right, thats the same route im going for now, but i gave myself a 2k limit.
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Old 04-24-2002, 11:29 AM   #13
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Brullen cat-back (~$600)
PDM CAI pipe ($50)
K&N filter ($50)
20mm FHI rear sway bar (~$75 on the board)
- then -
N1 lightweight pulleys ($260)
- or -
Cobb Stage 1 drivetrain upgrade ($199) (include short shift, bushings, and hard transmission mount - should prolly be used with upgraded engine mounts)

mmm.. upgrade goodness.

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Old 04-24-2002, 02:33 PM   #14
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Cobb Intake ($200)
N1 Pulleys ($250) OR proecm chip ($250)
Someones used midpipe+exhaust OR custom made magnaflow or flowmaster or generic something (2.25 or 2.5, around $200-500)
Where can I get a Cobb CAI for $200? Cobb's site shows that at $269!

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Old 04-24-2002, 06:14 PM   #15
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Quote:
ive spent less than $1000 and have well over 200hp.
Yeah, but that is only when you hit the switch for the bottle. plus, if you use it alot, then you have to pay like another $30 or so to fill it up again. I'll pass on nitrous.

otherwise, you only have about maybe ~170-175 hp with intake/exhaust.

BTW, what shot are you running?
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Old 04-25-2002, 12:33 AM   #16
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Yeah, but that is only when you hit the switch for the bottle. plus, if you use it alot, then you have to pay like another $30 or so to fill it up again. I'll pass on nitrous.

otherwise, you only have about maybe ~170-175 hp with intake/exhaust.

BTW, what shot are you running?
yeah i know thats the bad part. i may only have 175hp normally when i drive around, but by god ive got 220 when i race someone

im going with the 65 shot
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Old 04-25-2002, 01:25 AM   #17
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Where can I get a Cobb CAI for $200? Cobb's site shows that at $269!

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Old 04-28-2002, 04:20 PM   #18
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Thanks for the upgrade ideas and price listings! I was hoping to avoid the Nos though. How long does a bottle last for?
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Old 04-29-2002, 12:32 AM   #19
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How long does a bottle last for?
assuming a 10 pound bottle and about a 65 shot, about 3 minutes of continuous spraying. but if youre like me youll only spray for 10 seconds or maybe less per race. so one bottle = approx. 20 races.
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Old 04-29-2002, 02:37 AM   #20
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I would say in this order
Cobb Cams (webracing cams) $899
return the core and have 400 bucks back, then get
Ganzflow CAI $149.95 with K&N air filter.
then what ever you have left over a universal muffler and midpipe....
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Old 04-29-2002, 10:58 AM   #21
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Or you can save yourself $100+ and get a PDM Racing intake for $50. www.pdm-racing.com

I say skip the NOS. I personally don't agree with NOS in anything other than a race-prepped car. Just seems dangerous to me. Maybe with a full set of hardened Cobb parts, but otherwise.... no.

Besides, I'm sure you're probably looking for a power increase for all the time, versus one shot a whack. Intakes are indeed very popular, though some say you should get an air fuel controller (AFC) if you do the intake... and those go for $300.

So here's what I say: skip the power for now. Get new tires. Maybe do a simple brake upgrade... or work on the suspension.
Swaybars possibly, or track down an FHI/STi V5 setup for a good price (prices were recently jacked up severely... many of us lucked out and got them when they were cheap, ~$450 for springs and struts). Try www.subaruwrxparts.com which is Exeter Subaru in NH. Popular place, it's NESIC's favorite joint.

Oh... and spend $125 on a short shifter and bushing combo. from Kartboy. No Subaru is complete with out it. That is... assuming you have a manual! www.kartboy.com

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Old 04-29-2002, 12:15 PM   #22
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I agree with the guys who advise against power right away.

The car is a set of systems that have been balanced.

From the factory, relative to the weight of the car:
(1) Tires are not sticky enough.
(2) Suspension is soft.
(3) Brakes are too weak.
(4) Acceleration is weak.

So you need to decide if you want to develop all these systems.

If not you should look at changing tires, getting an intake and exhaust.

You will probably get 10hp from the enhanced breathing, and the tires should improve handling and braking.

Beyond that you need to map out what you want the car to look like when you are done. Do it not, and you will never be done.

The sequence that COBB used when building thier race car:

(1) Wheels/ Tires:
Deciding factors: Will they fit over the larger brakes they are planning? What tire do they want to run? What size/weight wheel do they want to run?

(2) Suspension:
Deciding factors: How heavy is the car after they strip it? What level of adjustability do they want (can they handle)? Spring rates they want to run? Amount of over/understeer adjustability they are trying to get?

(3) Brakes:
Deciding factors: Depending on the wheel/tire they are running and the terminal power they are shooting for, they can dictate what brakes to put in. Also, they make sure the car will stop well, before they make it go faster. The stock WRX brakes are barely adequate for a stock WRX. It's no wonder that all the guys with power-modded WRXs are all scrambling now to replace thier wornout and stock brakes. The RS brakes are barely adequate to handle the RS's weight, stock.

(4) Power mods:
Deciding factors: The previous modifications will dictate the upper limits of power that you car can now handle. Keep in mind that the race guys plan on changing the suspension, tires, wheels, and brakes regularly.
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Old 04-29-2002, 02:09 PM   #23
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Thumbs up Easy answer!

Go with Cobb Tuning's stage I Power Package.

Cobb Tuning Stage I Power Package
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Old 04-29-2002, 02:40 PM   #24
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tires
18 mm sway bar (no 20 till you have better springs/struts)
better front brake pads
ganzflow/k&n
underdrive pulley (rev-lab is the lowest cost)
cat back.. cheep universal muffler, 2 1/4 mild steel pipe .. crush bent at your local muffler shop


the last three together make a sizeable differance
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Old 04-29-2002, 03:31 PM   #25
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Perhaps i'm being a dick saying this
I think cars should be worked on suspension/drivetrain/brakes before power modes....Seriously, they make world of difference.
I say get Kartboy shifter, Engine/Transmission mounts, Brake pads, 20mm rear sway bar 1st b4 anything else.
You could probably get above items for $500 or so and you will definitely know money is well spent...
with the other $500 it is up to u..., intake, exhaust, pulley all these make sizeable difference unless u r willing to void warranty and get cams....
honestly i'd get tires and suspension after above mods
Good luck modding ur car...
stay away from nitrous... nothing against ppl who use it but it is for drag racing...
but seriously...power shouldn't come 1st in my opinion....
Likewise...learn 60-0 b4 0-60...
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