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Old 05-28-2009, 08:52 PM   #1
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Default Wheel Re-finishing/painting?where?

Does anybody know or recomend a good reliable shop that specializes in wheel re-finishing/painting? i dont really wanna get the BBS's powdercoated, because they might be used on the track as well, so i dont wanna run the risk of a possible weaker wheel.

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Old 05-28-2009, 09:18 PM   #2
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I have not tried them myself but heard nothing but good things.
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Old 05-28-2009, 09:38 PM   #3
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IT WILL NOT WEAKEN YOUR WHEEL. Why do people keep spreading this misinformation.
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Old 05-28-2009, 09:39 PM   #4
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IT WILL NOT WEAKEN YOUR WHEEL. Why do people keep spreading this misinformation.
If its on the internet it must be true
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Old 05-28-2009, 09:40 PM   #5
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Oh, and Nuwheel is suposed to be good.
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Old 05-28-2009, 09:44 PM   #6
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If you aren't going to powder coat them, just rattle can them, or you could have a body shop paint them,
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Old 05-28-2009, 09:56 PM   #7
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I rattle canned mine and with a little time and care ( I painted with tires on and did primer, three coats, and clear with wet sanding in betwwen) and they looked professionally done. Cost 45 in apint and supplies and about 5 hours total.
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Old 05-29-2009, 12:08 PM   #8
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IT WILL NOT WEAKEN YOUR WHEEL. Why do people keep spreading this misinformation.

Well i would rather trust a multi-billion dollar wheel company, telling me not to re-heat there wheel.....rather then a independent shop telling me it wont, just so they can make a quick coin. Now what color should i choose????
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Old 05-29-2009, 01:04 PM   #9
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Well i would rather trust a multi-billion dollar wheel company, telling me not to re-heat there wheel.....rather then a independent shop telling me it wont, just so they can make a quick coin. Now what color should i choose????
No one is trying to dupe you to make quick coin. They are telling you the truth. You will not reach a temperature even close to where you will begin to affect the metal's structure. Seriously, the cyclical loading of the rim from hard cornering and thermal cycling from disapated brake heat will likely where the rim up faster. I would be willing to bet that the hub of the wheel sees more heat than a powder coating just from doing a canyon run and getting that brakes nice and hot. You can boil fluid in the lines at 300 to 400F and plenty of people manage that. I would assume the rotor itself gets way hotter than that! I'm sure the heat soak from the rotor to the wheel hub is pretty large.

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Off topic I know, but...

I assume 350 F right (average powder coat bake temp)? If this is the case take a look at a basic phase diagram. Now I know this may not represent the exact alloy/composition etc, but it gives an idea of order of magnitude of temperatures needed to be reached in order to begin to change the structure of the Aluminum alloy. Remeber this chart is in C (350F is ~177C)





Now I do not have much knowledge in material sciences, and I'm sure someone on her can help me out, but you must heat to a sufficient temperature and hold that temperature for a given time, and then cool in a specific method (fast quench or slow quench) in order to change the grain structure of the material. The weakening of the wheel people describe is most likely an annealing effect. To anneal a metal you generally need to take the metal to a high heat and hold it, and then cool slowly. Doing this allows the atoms to move to a lower energy state.... yada yada... less grain boundaries... yada yada.. dislocations move easier through the material... yada yada... softer,more ductile, weaker material.

The point of this rambling diatribe its that this high temperature is not reached if powder coating only reaches ~177C.

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Old 05-29-2009, 02:14 PM   #10
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No one is trying to dupe you to make quick coin. They are telling you the truth. You will not reach a temperature even close to where you will begin to affect the metal's structure. Seriously, the cyclical loading of the rim from hard cornering and thermal cycling from disapated brake heat will likely where the rim up faster. I would be willing to bet that the hub of the wheel sees more heat than a powder coating just from doing a canyon run and getting that brakes nice and hot. You can boil fluid in the lines at 300 to 400F and plenty of people manage that. I would assume the rotor itself gets way hotter than that! I'm sure the heat soak from the rotor to the wheel hub is pretty large.

Regarding powder coating:

iknow i read that article too...just saying if bbs says no...im gonna take there word for it. thanks for the heads up
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Old 05-29-2009, 05:19 PM   #11
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depending on how much they want, i'd be down to get mine painted too, so lemme know and we can try to get a group discount.
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Im damn good with a rattle can if there is beer involved. Let me do them for you corey.
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Old 05-29-2009, 06:05 PM   #13
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Im damn good with a rattle can if there is beer involved. Let me do them for you corey.


hey man no name dropping here.....Code Name: Littlefoot lolololz
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hey man no name dropping here.....Code Name: Littlefoot lolololz
Code name: Indian in the cupboard.....
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