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Old 06-02-2009, 05:28 PM   #1
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Default Protect your engine in this hot place. Mishimoto oil coolers



I got a chance to see one of these firsthand recently, I was VERY impressed. This is not some cheap "ebay" style generic oil cooler. This is a nice core, sturdy braided hoses with solid fittings, plenty big enough to flow very well. Its nice enough that I regret spending more on a custom kit.


Why is an oil cooler important? When oil gets hot it breaks down, when oil breaks down, it lubricates less and less. Oil pressure drops, and bad things happen. In the past several months I have personally, first hand watched at least 6 cars spin bearings, and at least 4 of them, I am 100% sure were caused by oiling issues, either due to burning off, or thinning out due to overheating the oil. Some people mention that their cars burn one type of oil more than another, ANY oil will burn off less, if the temps are kept more stable. And with the temps in Texas being so high in the summer, and really never getting THAT cold in the winter, it just makes sense to spend a little to protect your engine. This isnt just a sales pitch, I spend a lot more than what these kits cost to buy an oil cooler for my ride. On a side note, I also feel that an oil temp gauge is a vital thing in Texas. But thats for another day/thread.

Here is what Mishimoto has to say about this kit.

"The Mishimoto universal oil cooler is a great way to reduce the oil temperatures on a hot summer day or track event. This oil cooler will extend the life of your oil and ensure your engine is getting the lubrication it needs to perform its best. The Mishimoto oil cooler kit features a 10 row core, stainless steel 3/8" ID braided lines, and a sandwich plate."


SO, the idea I had was to see if I could swing a better deal on an already VERY well priced oil cooler, for the TXIC people. And I can.

These kits retail for $265 before shipping. We all know that many things dont sell for retail, and most people are selling these kits for 199+ shipping.


Right now, if we can get at least say maybe 5 people, I am able to offer these for 189 shipped. Thats $10 cheaper PLUS free shipping.


Paypal is the prefered method of payment.






UPDATE!

These have all shipped! They went out Friday, so everyone waiting, they are on the way. I am back in the office and will be getting tracking out to all those remaining, today Sunday the 9th. For those who have been kept waiting, I thank you for your patience.
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Old 06-02-2009, 05:56 PM   #2
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I have this oil cooler (its actually the one that Dave saw this passed weekend) and I was also shocked at the quality when I received it. The stock pictures that you see online really do not represent the kit very well. The lines are HUGE and the core is nearly identical to any of the "high dollar" kits you see. Definitely a good buy!
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Old 06-02-2009, 06:10 PM   #3
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Old 06-02-2009, 06:17 PM   #4
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Yeah I just found out that they make/made GC8 radiators, I know they discontinued a bunch of stuff, I hope they didnt discontinue those.
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Old 06-02-2009, 06:19 PM   #5
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consider me a n00b when i ask this question.


could i install this myself on ramps in my garage with basic handtools? and does it come with some sort of instructions?
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Old 06-02-2009, 06:30 PM   #6
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consider me a n00b when i ask this question.


could i install this myself on ramps in my garage with basic handtools? and does it come with some sort of instructions?

THAT I couldnt tell you as far as instructions. HOWEVER, its pretty basic of an install. The sandwhich adaptor goes on in place of your oil filter, then your filter goes on that. The hoses screw to the sandwhich adaptor, and the oil cooler core. Its a pretty easy install, and is pretty obvious what goes where. There are always plenty of us to help you out as well.

The only if will be how you mount it. Most people mount it behind the grill, in either the top or bottom opening, depending on if they have a FMIC or not. Making mounting brackets is as simple as a trip to home depot, buying a piece of aluminum bar (about $5 for a 3 foot section) cutting some of it, bending a piece and drilling a couple holes in it. Chances are if nothing else, you can find someone local to help you figure a bracket out.
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Old 06-02-2009, 08:14 PM   #7
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This CAN be installed w/o the sandwich plate right? aren't there plugs in our STi engines that can be removed in lieu of the sandwich plate? I swear i remember reading about that somewhere... I want to install the oil cooler in my hood scoop.....
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Old 06-02-2009, 08:24 PM   #8
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This CAN be installed w/o the sandwich plate right? aren't there plugs in our STi engines that can be removed in lieu of the sandwich plate? I swear i remember reading about that somewhere... I want to install the oil cooler in my hood scoop.....
That I dont know. I know some people have installed the sandwhich plate in place of the factory oil cooler.
Im gonna put mine up by the scoop too.
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Old 06-02-2009, 08:27 PM   #9
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I need more details - I've had terrible experiences with sandwich plates leaking - Don't the factory oil pressure/oil temp gauges use the plugged holes?... I keep trying to search and I know I saw a build that did NOT use a sandwich plate for the oil cooler....any idea of the sandwich plate fits with the perrin EL headers?

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Old 06-02-2009, 08:36 PM   #10
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I dont know man, I wouldnt worry about a sandwhich plate, the only times I have seen sandwhich plates leak has been an installation problem either didnt use a seal, overtightened/undertightened etc. considering that every oil cooler kit on the market uses them (every kit I have ever seen anyway) I wouldnt sweat it.

As for which plate fits the perrins, just point it away from the header and I would THINK that any would work. I couldnt swear to that though.
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Old 06-03-2009, 11:03 AM   #11
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I'm interested in this. I'm looking into getting an FMIC first though because, I too, will be putting my OC in the scoop.
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Old 06-03-2009, 11:43 AM   #12
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I'm interested in this. I'm looking into getting an FMIC first though because, I too, will be putting my OC in the scoop.

packagedealwhat?
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Old 06-03-2009, 12:01 PM   #13
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stop selling me on stuff! haha, i'm going to say maybe in like a week or two.
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Old 06-03-2009, 12:11 PM   #14
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I'm definitely interested in this.

Noob question: Isn't there going to be some loss in oil pressure if you mount it in the hood scoop area? Maybe it's not a significant loss... I don't know...
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Old 06-03-2009, 12:36 PM   #15
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Old 06-03-2009, 01:43 PM   #16
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I'm definitely interested in this.

Noob question: Isn't there going to be some loss in oil pressure if you mount it in the hood scoop area? Maybe it's not a significant loss... I don't know...

I dont see why, the pump is going to be doing the same thing regardless. If there is, it will be small. I know several people have mounted them there and I havent heard of any problems other than that one guy that bolted his to his hood (it flexed the hoses too much when opening/closing the hood and leaked) Also M-factory's kit puts it up there, so I dont see it being a problem.
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Old 06-03-2009, 01:45 PM   #17
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Do me a favor guys, if you are a "sure thing" at the 189 price, PM me and let me know, better yet, Ill give you the payment address and you can send your money in. As soon as I have that magic number I will put the order in. I have 2-3 people that seem to be a sure thing, one says he is sending his money in on Thursday, so I only need 2-3 more people. The sooner I have money from say... five people (I cant say an exact number because that would make it officially a group buy ) the order goes in. I am expecting that I will have enough by early next week if not a little sooner.
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Old 06-03-2009, 02:15 PM   #18
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Already got money from one.... A new person too. So if the people who I have already spoken to about them send me the money, we are litterally like 1 person away.

Who else is in?
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Old 06-03-2009, 05:58 PM   #19
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I may be in if I know some more about it

I see 4 holes on the sandwich adaptor, how many are used for this? Can the others be used for oil temp/press gauges? What thread pitch are they, they look bigger than 1/8 NPT?

Is there a thermostat on this thing? Most of the wear on an engine occurs in the first few minutes of running while the oil is still cold and not lubricating properly, if you don't have a thermostat on the oil cooler it will take much longer to come up to temp, increasing the amount of time you spend in that cold-oil high-wear situation.

How long are the lines? Are they even long enough to mount this under the hood scoop? It doesn't look that way in the picture, but pictures can be deceiving. This is a universal kit correct, so no mounting hardware included?
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Old 06-03-2009, 06:20 PM   #20
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Doubt they are long enough to get it up under the scoop. A couple AN fittings and some line and that is fixed, either extend these (not a big deal if you tighten things) or replace them. Its still cheaper than putting together a custom kit like I did

No mounting hardware, but like I said, a couple brackets to mount it either in the lower grill opening or hanging from the radiator support (which is how most aftermarket kits are mounted) would be easily made from about $5-10 worth of materials from home depot with nothing more than a hammer/pliers (to bend the metal), a hacksaw and a drill.

As for the bungs in the sandwhich adaptor, Ill PM Butterz to chime in on it, since he has one sitting available to grab and look at.
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Dave asked me to post some more information about this kit.

The sandwich adapter has 4 bungs on it, all seem to be the same thread pitch. The two bungs that do not get used have plugs that have what appears to be a built in adapter for pressure/temp sending units. The lines are a good 5-6 feet long and look to have enough length for a top-mounted setup(my current plan). There is not a thermostat built into the sandwich adapter.
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There is not a thermostat built into the sandwich adapter.
damn...that's the kicker for me
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Dave asked me to post some more information about this kit.

The sandwich adapter has 4 bungs on it, all seem to be the same thread pitch. The two bungs that do not get used have plugs that have what appears to be a built in adapter for pressure/temp sending units. The lines are a good 5-6 feet long and look to have enough length for a top-mounted setup(my current plan). There is not a thermostat built into the sandwich adapter.
does there NEED to be for our cars? I guess I just figured cooler oil is better oil but if it stays so cool it never warms up that could be problematic.....

I'm still in because I said I would be, but am out of town for 3 weeks so PM me when we get closer to buy time and hopefully we'll have good answers by then.

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Buy time is likely going to be like the middle of next week though.


As for need a T-stat or not, I mean its better to have one than not, however, I cant honestly say how important it is. There are a LOT of people running oil cooler kits that dont have T-stats and I have yet to see anyone having a problem with it. So I dont know that its that vital. I would certainly say there is no real danger. You shouldnt be firing your car up and ripping on it 30 sec later anyway


There are some people who argue that a T-stat is a not a good idea as it corks off the oil inside the cooler, allowing it to congeal (sp?) and making it harder to circulate when it DOES open, also promoting the formation of sludge in the core.

I can see points that seem valid on both sides of the arguement.


However, I cant get past the fact that SO many people run oil coolers with no thermostat, and dont have problems. Remember, the factory "oil cooler" is also an oil pre-heater. So the oil is still going to get brought up to temp fairly quickly regardless.



Now, if you lived in Fargo and it was super cold, yeah I can see it being an issue, as on your daily commute in -10deg temps your oil would never reach operating temp. But this is Texas
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